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adhuin posted:So what are peoples opinions of the new maps so far? I love how open the maps feel now. Especially the push maps. There's a width to them in certain places where it's just a blast to exploit good positioning. There are no maps I outright dislike the way I did horizon.
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Egh I think Sombra at the moment is way too powerful to make comp fun/fair when she shows up. There isn’t really a hard counter to her and having an invisible assassin towards any dps or support just throws the entire team into disarray
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Oct 12, 2022 21:06
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It's weird but I couldn't even tell you which new map is which. I don't feel like the map matters much in OW2, at least in the games I've been playing. I think this is an unpopular opinion, but with 1 tank and no choke points, every fight kind of feels the same. like use whatever meager cover you can find and everyone just goes full bore shooting at eachother. Even in the old maps everyone just kind of engages the same way no matter where you are. e: we've reverted from ww1 trench warfare to that revolutionary war thing where everyone just stands in a line and shoots their musket. headcase fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Oct 12, 2022 |
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Oct 12, 2022 21:06
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If you have a team of all girls, with Junker Queen being one of them, she'll go "Alright ladies, let's teach these boys a lesson". That's pretty good. Also apparently if Reinhardt is on a team with all characters that don't use guns, he'll mention how maybe at least one of them should have a gun.
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Oct 12, 2022 21:08
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Vermain posted:i liked the aesthetics of temple of anubis and hanamura but i would rather be shot out of a cannon than ever play either of them again Probably the correct reaction to those maps to be fair. 
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Oct 12, 2022 21:09
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Aipsh posted:Egh I think Sombra at the moment is way too powerful to make comp fun/fair when she shows up. There isn’t really a hard counter to her and having an invisible assassin towards any dps or support just throws the entire team into disarray Sombra and Genji are both huge problems right now. Sombra is the best flanker and just deletes people safely while Genji with the DPS passive up and blade is extremely broken. They're probably going to have to make his ult form not trigger the passive. Not sure what they do to Sombra, but those two are the best DPS currently and it's not close. 76 and Sojourn feel like a good baseline. Mei is in a weird place now though, her kit is more tank than DPS and her damage is pretty bad, they should just make her a tank and give her some direct mitigation.
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Oct 12, 2022 21:12
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What is this supposed no gun team build?? Is it one tank two dps teo support?
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Oct 12, 2022 21:13
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Jack B Nimble posted:What is this supposed no gun team build?? Is it one tank two dps teo support? rein, brig, moira, genji, hanzo?
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Oct 12, 2022 21:14
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Genji's always been a problem in pugs. The counter is for everyone to immediately do a 180 when they hear RYUJIN NO WHATEVER coming from behind them, but good luck getting pubbies to remember that. If you're lucky like I was last night you're already charging up a full Zenyatta alt-fire and accidentally whip it straight into the fucker's face before he can finish his angry shouting.
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Oct 12, 2022 21:17
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I mean I guess, I feel like Genji and Hanzo "don't count" because when I think of a melee character I think of "someone else has to deal with that pharah in the sky, that widow at extreme range, or that anyone on the high ground, because I literally physically can't". I don't actually think there's any Melee DPS currently :hmm:
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BabyRyoga posted:Anti-heals should def not be full anti-heals, but there should also be more "mortal strike" debuffs in the game that lower healing effects to some extent. I'd really like it if they made Sym's primary fire slowly stack up a healing debuff at a rate of 1% a tick or something. Same with Mei's primary. yes and then make every form of damage apply mortal strike and now we're talking
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Jack B Nimble posted:I mean I guess, I feel like Genji and Hanzo "don't count" because when I think of a melee character I think of "someone else has to deal with that pharah in the sky, that widow at extreme range, or that anyone on the high ground, because I literally physically can't". Can you image how butthurt the hitscan elitist crew would be if someone walked up and stabbed them in the head? "NO SKILLLLLLLLL"
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Kazinsal posted:Genji's always been a problem in pugs. The counter is for everyone to immediately do a 180 when they hear RYUJIN NO WHATEVER coming from behind them, but good luck getting pubbies to remember that. The whole problem is that now he's supercharged with the DPS passive and there's almost no CC to stop him like before. Running from an ulting genji does nothing unless you have a mobility ability. All you can try is to kill him, but he usually kills a majority of your team first (or all of them with Ana boost. This isn't a low rank problem, this is why the top ranks and pros are all rating him so high/hating him.
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Oct 12, 2022 21:24
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Bottom Liner posted:Sombra and Genji are both huge problems right now. Sombra is the best flanker and just deletes people safely while Genji with the DPS passive up and blade is extremely broken. They're probably going to have to make his ult form not trigger the passive. Not sure what they do to Sombra, but those two are the best DPS currently and it's not close. 76 and Sojourn feel like a good baseline. Mei is in a weird place now though, her kit is more tank than DPS and her damage is pretty bad, they should just make her a tank and give her some direct mitigation. Sojourn is probably the most OP character at the moment. Can't really defend against no-scope headshots. Sombra can be dealt with a buddy system, although she still will be a pain in the rear end.
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Oct 12, 2022 21:25
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I think I've started to click with Brigitte as a big armored coward.
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adhuin posted:Sojourn is probably the most OP character at the moment. Can't really defend against no-scope headshots. I'm talking about high end of comp/pro. Sojourn is good, probably the best all around behind those two, but there's a reason why almost every pro has Genji/Sombra in their own tier.
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Bottom Liner posted:The whole problem is that now he's supercharged with the DPS passive and there's almost no CC to stop him like before. Running from an ulting genji does nothing unless you have a mobility ability. All you can try is to kill him, but he usually kills a majority of your team first (or all of them with Ana boost. This isn't a low rank problem, this is why the top ranks and pros are all rating him so high/hating him. Oh god I had no idea the DPS passive stacked on his ult what the gently caress that explains a lot 
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Oct 12, 2022 21:34
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Look they gotta sell that fancy mythic skin somehow.
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Oct 12, 2022 21:41
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Gotta be honest it's a sick skin. I'll probably never ever unlock it 
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Look they gotta sell that fancy mythic skin somehow. I'm gonna wear that skin and then I gonna feed hard.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I mean I guess, I feel like Genji and Hanzo "don't count" because when I think of a melee character I think of "someone else has to deal with that pharah in the sky, that widow at extreme range, or that anyone on the high ground, because I literally physically can't". The quote is about a no-gun team, not a melee team
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Bottom Liner posted:They should remove no-role competitive queue and replace it with ranked mystery heroes competitive mystery heroes would be so cool and interesting in so many levels
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Oct 12, 2022 21:44
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Who cares about pros The pro experience is so wildly different from the casual experience. Genji isn't an issue at all at lower levels, this is all that matters
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Oct 12, 2022 21:44
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Someone made this handy infographic.
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Zzulu posted:Who cares about pros My experience has been even at lower levels Genji can sometimes carry very hard if the Genji has adequate skill for their rank. Like if it's at the level where they can't properly execute their blade combo they just feed, but there's also a decent amount of teams that struggle to deal with a half decent Genji.
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Oct 12, 2022 21:52
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Jack Trades posted:Someone made this handy infographic. Temple of Anubis removal alone does actually make OW2 better than OW1, gently caress that stage for real
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Zzulu posted:Genji isn't an issue at all at lower levels 
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The genji skin is actually different too. You can make it the genji colors.
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Oct 12, 2022 22:00
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I wonder if they'll re-use the assets from maps like Anubis to make non-2CP maps, or if they're just gone forever
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Splinter posted:I wonder if they'll re-use the assets from maps like Anubis to make non-2CP maps, or if they're just gone forever In past they've said that re-purposing a map for another play-mode takes almost as much work as just making a brand new one.
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Jack Trades posted:Someone made this handy infographic. Mythic skins are unlike legendaries in that they have several component customization options you can choose from to mix-and-match though?
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Oct 12, 2022 22:15
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I feel like they could make a new Egypt map and just be like "oh look, a ton of assets to drag and drop"
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I at least hope we get another map in Egypt to replace it. That map was gorgeous and it'd be a shame for that aspect to be lost to time forever.
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But on other hand they have used existing maps for PVE maps in past. Remember rialto pve with the boss arena behind the attacker spawn with heli-escape? There is more similar areas within the OW2 game. Start at 2:40. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzEitihDzAk&t=161s Jay3 explored them in Kings Row, Rialto and Havanna.
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Oct 12, 2022 22:20
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I like how in KarQ's tier list video it starts as being "for average ranked players", but then for heroes like Tracer and Kiriko he essentially says they are at their tier only if you're a god with them
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DLC Inc posted:Temple of Anubis removal alone does actually make OW2 better than OW1, gently caress that stage for real I'm not sad to see the capture point maps go, but I would like it if they took those maps and retooled them into different modes because they are still pretty maps, especially Hanamura
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Macaluso posted:I'm not sad to see the capture point maps go, but I would like it if they took those maps and retooled them into different modes because they are still pretty maps, especially Hanamura I'm sure those maps will have a resurgence in the PvE mode.
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Oct 12, 2022 22:55
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I miss 2CP 
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Bottom Liner posted:I miss 2CP 
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Macaluso posted:If you have a team of all girls, with Junker Queen being one of them, she'll go "Alright ladies, let's teach these boys a lesson". That's pretty good. Also apparently if Reinhardt is on a team with all characters that don't use guns, he'll mention how maybe at least one of them should have a gun. If Winston and Kiriko are in the same team, their pre-match banter has him make a paper trail joke. I audibly boooed because it was so corny and good.
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