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peanut- posted:Apparently Truss’s meeting with Tory MPs last night was such a catastrophe that they are now openly discussing bringing Boris back as the only viable option. So yeah it’s definitely on the table. Boris HAS been suspiciously inconspicuous recently. I can't imagine there's any other reason for that than that he's plotting something and is lying low, biding his time.
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peanut- posted:Apparently Truss’s meeting with Tory MPs last night was such a catastrophe that they are now openly discussing bringing Boris back as the only viable option. So yeah it’s definitely on the table. That's amazing. He'd be so smug to be back, he'd gently caress upp even worse than last time
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bustin keaton posted:They'll be fine, probably no different to the generation before in 10 years, apart from being a bit less accepting of nonces (shout out Bloc Party and The Strokes, still ducking that expose) and general bigots. Requesting a nonce report on both Bloc Party and The Stroks
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keep punching joe posted:Labour in opposition "actually the rent freeze was our idea, and we'd have done it sooner and better." lol wasn't Welsh Labour meant to be less poo poo than the English variety?
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Failed Imagineer posted:Requesting a nonce report on both Bloc Party and The Stroks strokes
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Crymetimeboys posted:JRM patronising centrists Qualifying an unequivocally good thing with the word "intelligent" in order to completely bastardise it without blowback. No wonder the editors fell for it (also they probably agree).
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Regarding that “thumbs up Emoji” story… https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1580350932457771008
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Jippa posted:I was just coming to post this. Instability of national electricity infrastructure? Not a real world problem! You should put down your iphones and your nintendos and engage with some tedious culture war bullshit instead.
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I use the thumbs up emoji to reply to my partners texts specifically because it makes her really mad.
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In a perfect microcosm of Anglo-Irish relations, a Sky Sports presenter berates an Irish soccer player for the team singing a song with an "Up the 'RA" chant in it. Tells her that the team needs educating on Anglo-Irish history (?) https://twitter.com/KNEECAPCEOL/status/1580246133712228352?t=KWKgq0kWq-XxqEMlIGZjZA&s=19 Chaser: https://twitter.com/wolfetones/status/1580344596009480192?t=lC48WgFnyjznZf4S48ZmNw&s=19
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bustin keaton posted:Setting aside the usual "generation polls are almost exclusively PR agency guff to promote something", "the quotes are from Reddit", "this is the Daily Mail", "generations in general are useless most of the time", "who the gently caress named them Zoomers", "remember when Milennials were soft boys ruining the world" etc.... I do find it amusing/irritating when people kids-these-days about zoomers and their discourse on tiktok as uniquely damning of the whole cohort, as if tumblr never happened
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keep punching joe posted:Labour in opposition "actually the rent freeze was our idea, and we'd have done it sooner and better." "unintended consequences" like their property development mates getting mad at them.
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I wonder what kind of refurb boris'll do on the prime ministers apartment this time.
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Gonzo McFee posted:"unintended consequences" like their property development mates getting mad at them. Aren't like all your politicians landlords themselves
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I wonder what kind of refurb boris'll do on the prime ministers apartment this time. Just because the floorplan of No.10 is L-shaped doesn't mean you should get any idead
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Aren't like all your politicians landlords themselves Of course, only the workshy poor aren't landlords
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sebzilla posted:lol wasn't Welsh Labour meant to be less poo poo than the English variety? The poo poo tide raises all poo poo ships.
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smellmycheese posted:Regarding that “thumbs up Emoji” story… Love Michael Hobbes. He's made his entire job to be a moral panic-seeking missile, and then dismantle them snarkily. This episode of his podcast is relevant to the alcohol discussion from a few pages ago (and the whole podcast is good) https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/maintenance-phase/id1535408667?i=1000580774171
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Payndz posted:Sir Kier Starmer, former Director of Public Prosecutions under the Coalition, former member of the Trilateral Commission, enthusiastic purger of the left, Establishment continuity candidate? That Sir Kier Starmer? A starmer government might raise income tax on high earners a bit, probably some increase in spending on health and social care(as long as most of it goes through private providers) and public investment in infrastructure. But it is never going to do anything that challenges the role of the City of London, the security apparatus, foreign policy consensus or that removes private sector involvement or market forces from a section of the economy.
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https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1580459668081897473 https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1580451148196040705 Ah Boris, I wonder what he's been up to? He's been awfully quiet lately https://twitter.com/AlexPBWalker/status/1580488156075659264 Ah...
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:WTF? That's as bad as the fash stealing the OK sign, a cartoon frog and some other inocuous thing people do that I can't remember but was probably akin to the way some people (including self) say "Cheers!" as "Thank you" in shops etc. Admittedly I could be wrong on account of my refusal to read a daily mail article, but I could almost guarantee that the original study was nowhere near as black and white as suggested in that headline. Gen Z-ers perceiving a thumbs up emoji as passive aggressive or sarcastic isn't some new thing, I'm sure it would take most adults no serious effort at all to imagine a scenario in which they might give a physical thumbs up IRL as a gesture dripping with sarcasm. Sometimes a thumbs up means "that's great, thanks!" and sometimes it means "whatever you say idiot, gently caress off". Because of generational shifts in language there's always going to be some drift over time which could cause confusion between people younger and older. Possibly young people use a thumbs up sarcastically more often (and as a result report that secondary meaning more often), but I doubt any young person who sees thumbs ups flying back and forth in an office context is going to fail to parse those as sincere. Heck, I've spoken to Gen-Zers in text format who definitely used a thumbs up earnestly. Same as the last time this stuff came up I'll recommend Gretchen McCullough's book Because Internet for anyone who's interested in a pop science look at how casual text communication has changed in the last few decades. EDIT: Lol not even a study, a reddit post haha gently caress me Reveilled fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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Never knew this thumbsup business and I will now proceed to remove the knowledge from my brain 👍 Turning into 
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I think it’s more subtle than that, thumbs up small and unobtrusive like when it’s a reaction to a MS Teams message is fine, but seeing a great honking 👍 on its own as a chat response can look kind of passive aggressive, depending on the context.
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Just seems like 'short form text messages terrible for communicating subtext or non-verbal contextual information, part 438'
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Re: the last couple of pages of voting chat — bit surprised nobody has mentioned the possibility of voting for one of the smaller but more definitively left-wing parties? I’m certainly not optimistic that change is possible within the current system but it seems to me that if it is, it’d be via a massive upset where the Green / NIP / whoever is cool these days take a large amount of seats and force Labour to recognise the fundamental demand for those policy positions or else get relegated to minor irrelevant party status. Just in time for catastrophic climate change to wipe the whole thing away 😬👍🏻
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I use a single solitary thumbs up on teams all the time, and depending on the context it either means that’s perfect go ahead, no problem glad I could help, or fine whatever I’m not going to argue about it anymore because you’re a useless oval office.
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TACD posted:Re: the last couple of pages of voting chat — bit surprised nobody has mentioned the possibility of voting for one of the smaller but more definitively left-wing parties? I’m certainly not optimistic that change is possible within the current system but it seems to me that if it is, it’d be via a massive upset where the Green / NIP / whoever is cool these days take a large amount of seats and force Labour to recognise the fundamental demand for those policy positions or else get relegated to minor irrelevant party status. I'd have thought the thing to do in every election if you're engaged with politics is to look at who the candidates for MP in your local constituency are, and what share of the vote their parties got last time. If you're one of the lucky few who actually have a worthwhile candidate to vote for, then by all means vote for them regardless of their chances - maybe they'll get in and you can feel good about that. But for the vast majority of us we'll be voting for various flavours of poo poo, so now it's time to start weighing the "least bad" options. If there's a decent party who're standing but close to losing their deposit, maybe vote for them so that doesn't happen. If there's a poo poo non-tory candidate but they have a chance of beating the tory, maybe vote for them - not because you want the poo poo candidate, but because you want to reduce the power of a tory government. "Vote Green no matter who" might be worth chanting as some kind of way of motivating low-information voters, but seems inferior to actually looking at the candidates and using what opportunities that affords you.
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"...I'm escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by wokeism. Space!"
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TACD posted:Re: the last couple of pages of voting chat — bit surprised nobody has mentioned the possibility of voting for one of the smaller but more definitively left-wing parties? I’m certainly not optimistic that change is possible within the current system but it seems to me that if it is, it’d be via a massive upset where the Green / NIP / whoever is cool these days take a large amount of seats and force Labour to recognise the fundamental demand for those policy positions or else get relegated to minor irrelevant party status. I think the first priority has to get the Tories out no matter what, followed by registering a vote for progressive policies/candidates. So really I think the constituency one lives in matters quite a bit. 1. Tory-[Labour/LibDem/SNP] marginal: vote for whichever party has the best chance at unseating or holding off the Tories 2. Safe seat of any flavour: vote your conscience, which may be Green, or if you’re lucky, a Labour candidate in the SCG I live in an ultra-safe Labour seat and the MP is on the right of the party. I will likely vote Green.
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Convex posted:"...I'm escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by wokeism. Space!" That is Jeremy Beadle, not Tim Curry.
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Halisnacks posted:I think the first priority has to get the Tories out no matter what and so the ratchet clicks round again
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Boris could get away with government by press release for a long time, 'cos shameless bullshitting is his key skill. Liz Truss is trying the same thing but she just can't manage it. It's surprising just how bad she is at the mechanics of doing politics: her first moves, given the circumstances of her election, should have been to convey calmness and stability to the public, while building bridges with the various factions of Tory MPs who didn't vote for her and not try anything ambitious until she was sure she could command a majority in Parliament for it. Instead, she's just sprinted straight into a brick wall and is now acting all confused about what could possibly have happened. I guess she really is that dumb lol.
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VideoGames posted:That is Jeremy Beadle, not Tim Curry. Oh good I was starting to doubt my own eyes
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Halisnacks posted:I think the first priority has to get the Tories out no matter what The problem being that now all three major parties in England are interchangeable, there is no way to get the Tories out. You only get to pick the colour of rosette worn by the neoliberal oval office who is wrecking everything.
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