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Dr. VooDoo posted:Like a lot of people don’t understand just how much Sandy Hook parents lives are hell because of Alex Jones. You had parents talking about how people were pissing on their kids graves and threatening to dig up their kids bodies to prove they weren’t real because of his false flag bullshit. He 100% deserves to be destroyed wether he’s relevant or not But again, isn't this just standard for anyone who's visibly trans online or says something that inadvertently pisses off Channers or whatever else? It's just the nature of a visible and politicized position opposed to chuds. Why a billion here when they don't even go after other people at all? The real offense here was against the courts.
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J.A.B.C. posted:We can open up the Kola Superdeep Borehole and at least start on a good alternative. The Kola Superdeep Borehole is 9 inches in diameter. You'd have to reduce Alex Jones to a slurry to get him down it. This is not an objection, merely something to take into account when making plans.
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FFT posted:A rando channer isn't even close to having the same kind of media platform Alex Jones does. Yeah but there's millions of them and the MSM does breathless stenography lol
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Like a lot of people don’t understand just how much Sandy Hook parents lives are hell because of Alex Jones. You had parents talking about how people were pissing on their kids graves and threatening to dig up their kids bodies to prove they weren’t real because of his false flag bullshit. He 100% deserves to be destroyed wether he’s relevant or not One of the things people miss about these trials mostly due to Alex Jones being a massive clown and his lawyer little better, is that the people suing have had absolutely horrific lives and you can pick literally any plaintiff testimony and I dare you to not tear up by the time they've finished.
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slurm posted:But again, isn't this just standard for anyone who's visibly trans online or says something that inadvertently pisses off Channers or whatever else? It's just the nature of a visible and politicized position opposed to chuds. Why a billion here when they don't even go after other people at all? The real offense here was against the courts. I mean, I'd be fine with dragging all kinds of shitheads in front of the courts for being a massive piece of poo poo online, but in this case it's definitely a weighting of a man who made $800k in a single day over Sandy Hook bringing in dupes vs. private citizens trying to grieve.
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It seems that Trump created a new company in Delaware, Trump Organization II. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/nyregion/trump-ny-lawsuit-james.html 'NY AG filed a request for an order from the judge that would prohibit the Trump Organization from transferring its assets without court approval.' Only problem is that he set this up before NY AG filed her lawsuit. Always looking for a loophole.
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Daily 15 minute RWM hate listen report from this afternoon: Not a single mention of the Jan 6 hearings and the Trump subpoena but they are OUTRAGED that Nicholas Cruz didn't get the death penalty, I tell you what. FTR, I am opposed to capital punishment. Whoever it was I was listening to asked "what is it even for and why do we even have it (good question!)* if a guy like Cruz doesn't receive it but every time this comes up, I always wonder how "the party of small government" is SO eager to give them power to murder citizens. And then I seque into the idea of how so many of them claim to be christians and can't help but think about if they ever ponder what Christ's stance on murder might be. The guy went on to cite false statistics countering the idea that it's not a deterrent by claiming that "they ask people who did it if they would have done it had there been a death penalty" and they say yes. But the studies I've read look at murder rates in states that have the DP and don't notice any difference. IIRC, in fact, states that do have legal state santioned murder actually have higher murder rates but don't quote me on that. Then he said that Cruz will be isolated from gen pop (true) on death row and "will get to do whatever he wants to" while the families suffer. Pretty sure that's not true if I understand how death row works but OK. And he went on to take a minor poo poo on the few families that didn't want the death penalty by calling them misguided or something. * "Revenge". The answer is "revenge". That's it. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Oct 14, 2022 |
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Look, Suge Knight tried to run a tight ship, but with that many legendary egos on one label, it was never gonna happen.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:https://twitter.com/theserfstv/stat...genumber%3D3943 He did a reaction stream while the decisions were being handed out. He needs to make up all the money he owes from somewhere I guess.
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I think they need to start dragging the people that platform him into the suit Nelson Mandingo posted:
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FFT posted:Specifically about the use of "they" as a gender-neutral pronoun being "made up" Oh god you reminded me of Hannity's performative bullshit earlier this week, he was talking about someone who was nonbinary (don't remember if it was a random person or someone important but either way) and he was like "[person] asked to be referred to by a plural pronoun, they. I've never heard of this before, this is insanity." Like, I get that "right wingers pretend to be very offended by singular they, a thing that has existed and has been used frequently for hundreds of years" is a thing. I've seen that, heard that countless times. This is the very first time I have heard "I have never heard of singular they before in my life." OgNar posted:He did a reaction stream while the decisions were being handed out. He also was telling the audience to send him money and said flat out "Don't worry, I'm filing for bankruptcy so I can assure you none of the money you send me will go to the families."
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FilthyImp posted:I think they need to start dragging the people that platform him into the suit As a white male just reading those words caused me to tense up. But no this isn't me feeling a lot of empathy. His obvious mental illnesses is no excuse for his behavior.
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FFT posted:There's a reason they refer to basic human decency and general empathy as "virtue signaling" and "woke". The cult of selfishness doesn't care about the origins of such phrases, only how they can be used. big talk from a tiny man especially when its a written publication and not in the face to warzone journalist with limbs thicker than Ben's whole body.
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Does anyone who's regularly exposed to Fox News know how they are currently covering the Russian invasion of Ukraine? I know that Tucker is unabashedly a Russia cheerleader and Ukraine basher but does the coverage on the rest of the network match that or is he an outlier? Or do they just try to ignore the story as much as they can?
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Zwabu posted:Does anyone who's regularly exposed to Fox News know how they are currently covering the Russian invasion of Ukraine? I know that Tucker is unabashedly a Russia cheerleader and Ukraine basher but does the coverage on the rest of the network match that or is he an outlier? Mostly framed as "not our fight/ waste of money and resources"
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Mostly framed as "not our fight/ waste of money and resources" I have extremely specific amnesia, how did these same people cover Syria during the Trump admin again?
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Mostly framed as "not our fight/ waste of money and resources" The new thing is "it's important we get a peace treaty (by giving Russia everything it wanted in ukraine) or they're going to start WW3."
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We haven't had a Bill Maher derail in a while so... https://news.yahoo.com/bill-maher-nails-why-republicans-195806678.html Bill Maher Nails Why Republicans Support Herschel Walker: It Says to Dems, Anything Is Better Than What You’re Selling (Video) quote:Bill Maher thinks he understands why, exactly, the Republicans support a candidate like Herschel Walker, asking the question: “How in a supposedly sophisticated country a person with his resume could ever be elected to office?” And I find most of this diatribe pretty ridiculous. I'd say it's more that "they don't like what they think democrats are selling based on what talk radio and FOX tells them it is." And unlike him, I am ready to write off "half the country", even though it's probably closer to 1/3
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Clarste posted:I think the very reasoning he describes is pretty much the definition of a deplorable, insofar as it has one? "my only principle is to hurt my enemies, regardless of all other factors, and in fact the more monstrous my candidate is the better"
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Piell posted:"my only principle is to hurt my enemies, regardless of all other factors, and in fact the more monstrous my candidate is the better" "I'll vote for the rapist because he wont rape me, I'll never vote for someone whos "woke" Because it makes me feel bad about myself"
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BiggerBoat posted:And I find most of this diatribe pretty ridiculous. I'd say it's more that "they don't like what they think democrats are selling based on what talk radio and FOX tells them it is." And unlike him, I am ready to write off "half the country", even though it's probably closer to 1/3 It’s less thoughtful than, “anything else is better.” For many it’s pretty much just, “I don’t understand what a rainbow flag means, it confuses me.” That they don’t have to interact with it, just leave it because it’s not about them is something they have trouble with. That wouldn’t be so bad except that many of them have been told since childhood that it means bad people that god hates want you to be bad and hated by god and is a more serious problem. For a good chunk on Americans left leaning ideology is anathema and they can point to a long history of cleansing such things with fire and the sword.
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Like all good lies, right wing media lies have a kernel of truth to build on. That kernel just ignores that neither side in our pay-to-play bought and paid for government actually gives a gently caress about them. Team (R) is willing to substitute bigotry and scape goats for their not-giving-a-gently caress, which is more than they get anywhere else.
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I just meant that where Maher is off here is that, yes, there's a rejection of the entire Democratic party by most Republicans but I don't think the embrace of candidates like Walker, Trump, Greene etc. is a simple matter of "Dems aren't offering us anything". Because they are and they do and nothing excuses running people who are objectively stupid and unfit for office as a counter to that. I think it's more that we're looking at 3 decades or so of the GOP base being told by RWM that the Democrats are bunch of far left radical socialist nazis who use ACORN, the USPS, the media, colleges/education, Soros, Antifa and Dominion voting machines to steal elections and poo poo like that. There are plenty of reasons to reject the Democratic party but, for the most part, the people who want to vote for morons like Oz and Walker instead are doing it for mostly made up reasons of what they think the opposition is actually doing. They've been taught that they're patriots standing up to the people deliberately trying to destroy the country and that gay teachers are grooming kids to become gay. "They're gonna take our guns and make flags illegal" type of poo poo. Or that things like unedited video of Trump or Walker or Proud Boys saying dumb things are deepfakes made up to discredit god fearing christian americans. Recall all the birth certificate poo poo with Obama, Hillary's emails and John Kerry's swift boat nonsense and how large those things played during their campaigns. A lot of the GOP base will deny that someone said something that they actually heard with their own ears. If you press them some about what they hate about democrats, it's almost always some really out there poo poo and usually demonstrably false. "They're soft on crime, won't drill for oil, want to defund the police, give away free stuff and are pushing for open borders so they can garner more illegal votes". Conversely, when you ask them what they like about Republicans or Trump, the answers are almost always empty platitudes centering around "freedom, guns, God, gas, taxes" and whatever they think capitalism is. The Democrats mostly loving suck but Maher can't sit there and tell me that the GOP Cult who make up half of their base is doing it for any other reason than being as hateful, uninformed, ignorant and spiteful as the radio shows they listen to. The dem base is largely ineffectual and wishy washy but the GOP base legit scares me. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Oct 16, 2022 |
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quote:Do you see how much we don’t like what you are selling? The problem is that the left isn’t the “you” who is doing the selling. These cultural issues are always started on the right as a straw man to rail against so they don’t have to deal with less popular for them issues. Abortion, flag burning, trans bathroom issues, pick a culture war issue and they’ve all been stated at pearl clutching issues.
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BiggerBoat posted:I think it's more that we're looking at 3 decades or so of the GOP base being told by RWM that the Democrats are bunch of far left radical socialist nazis who use ACORN, the USPS, the media, colleges/education, Soros, Antifa and Dominion voting machines to steal elections and poo poo like that. There are plenty of reasons to reject the Democratic party but, for the most part, the people who want to vote for morons like Oz and Walker instead are doing it for mostly made up reasons of what they think the opposition is actually doing. They've been taught that they're patriots standing up to the people deliberately trying to destroy the country and that gay teachers are grooming kids to become gay. Yeah I think the right wing propaganda/media factory baking into GOP brains after a full generation is the biggest factor and I'm not sure what the solution is. All the people who were theoretically in charge of all this like the McConnells and Bushes realized they weren't in control of their brainwashed rubes the way they thought they were once Trump came around, and some of them I think even realize they might not like the country that comes out the other end of this. You'd think, you'd wish that given the danger they'd be willing to lose an election, even ONE, to get themselves and this country off this train, but no. Got to keep the reins of power.
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I gotta be honest BiggerBoat, the flaw in your worldview is that Dems are offering anything. Neither party offers anything, because any actual ability make changes has been taken out of the realm of the political. The managerial state exists so that politicians cannot conceivably gently caress up the capitalist hegemon. Can they pass laws to make the lives of minorities worse? Yeah, sure, as long as it doesn’t gently caress up the bag. This is why most democratic politicians sound like HR managers, because that’s basically all they are. AOC turned out to just be a manager’s intern. We saw her boss make her cry at work.
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Both parties are the same! Nothing will change! *Loan relief is happening. Expunged weed offenses* Exactly the same, both are!
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FilthyImp posted:Both parties are the same! Nothing will change! The loan relief was surprising as hell, but let me ask you this: will it significantly impact the trajectory we are on as a nation? Or will it end up with the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer, just at a mitigated rate? That it was possible to achieve within our current political system tells me that it will not fundamentally alter the landscape at large, and that it presents minimal actual challenge to the status quo. And I have friends who are getting the full benefit of this, and I’m glad for them, but it isn’t changing the fundamental facts of their existences as working class people in the US. It’s good, but it’s so far from enough, and it doesn’t make a poor person not poor suddenly.
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selec posted:I gotta be honest BiggerBoat, the flaw in your worldview is that Dems are offering anything. This is a common refrain and may largely be true. I think the dems could offer far more and it sucks to me that Biden finally started growing some balls and doing some good things = and right before the mid terms! What a surprise! I still, however, maintain there's a meaningful distinction in a two party system between one offering me armed teachers in schools, repeal of Roe, disenfranchising voters, criminalizing sex education, calling climate change a hoax, forcing the bible into politics, building walls, more guns and calling people like me enemies of the country as they rally their supporters to storm the US capitol. And then the other one with no courage making incremental, ineffectual baby steps towards changing things, hung up pn decorum and combating all that. The root of the problem is, of course, capitalism and nothing gets done in this country without money. I don't know what can be done about that but the party I typically vote for is generally not utterly insane, rife with theocratic fascist tendencies and offering me candidates like MTG, Herschel Walker and Donald Trump with an army of propagandists spewing outiright lies and perpetual anger on the radio, TV and internet explaining to me why people like that should be taken seriously or put in charge of anything at all.
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You know the old order is breaking down when Crime Bill Joe is wiping weed convictions and trying to stop prosecutions. Maybe that heralds more positive changes, or maybe it’s the establishment flailing as crises deepen. We’re definitely hosed so long as our institutions fail to fix the problems that make people miserable. Another five years of what the last seven years have been like and we’re definitely in Weimar territory.
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I AM GRANDO posted:You know the old order is breaking down when Crime Bill Joe is wiping weed convictions and trying to stop prosecutions. Maybe that heralds more positive changes, or maybe it’s the establishment flailing as crises deepen. We’re definitely hosed so long as our institutions fail to fix the problems that make people miserable. Another five years of what the last seven years have been like and we’re definitely in Weimar territory.
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I AM GRANDO posted:You know the old order is breaking down when Crime Bill Joe is wiping weed convictions and trying to stop prosecutions. Maybe that heralds more positive changes, or maybe it’s the establishment flailing as crises deepen. Yeah, and this is exacerbated by the fact that we keep running and electing old guys like Joe Biden and, specifically on the democratic side, keep nominating candidates with the idea of appealing some nebulous "center" that only keeps shifting to the right and who has mostly checked out or doesn't even vote. Motherfuckers keep thinking that the idea is to win all these independent undecided voters that make up like 2% of the electorate and are complete idiots when, as Trump demonstrated (and to a lesser extent SAnders) the real untapped voting bloc that I think should be targeted is the huge amount of people who don't vote at all because they're tired of wondering why our "best and brightest" every four years seems so uninspiring, phony, paid for and completley out of touch. And they're not wrong. Are the best we can offer people in the richest country in the world people like John Kerry, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Donald Trump, George W Bush, Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama and Joe Biden? Never even mind people like Cuomo or MGT. "Just how low do you have to sink in this country to become president of the united states?" - Hunter Thompson For the first time in a good while, I feel zero urgency or inspiration to go and vote, let alone donate time or money. I WILL vote, of course, but I'm not real fired up about it with Charlie Crist on my ballot as the only alternative to Ron DeSantis. I don't know if Biden's move on weed and student loans is desperation, a resignation of knowing he's historically been on the wrong side of those issues or just red meat for the mid terms but I suspect it's the latter. I wonder sometimes what my Dad and my grandmother, who were staunch anti drug types, might think about weed right now but they died 10 years ago. Sometimes old people change their minds but, more often, I think most of them tend to dig in instead.
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skeleton warrior posted:“Nothing significant will ever change” I mean, “things changed!” isn’t in and of itself always great. Dems changed pretty rapidly to a party where Covid mitigation and rights of the disabled to safely exist quickly became secondary to economic concerns. All it took was being put in charge—a policy which will be generating hundreds of thousands, if not more disabled individuals as a result. You can give somebody a free dessert, it doesn’t change the fact that an earlier course you refused to change consistently gives people food poisoning. Loan relief and weed decrim are a (discounted) cover charge for a club the Dems feel innately uncomfortable in. Food and booze metaphor
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't know if Biden's move on weed and student loans is desperation, a resignation of knowing he's historically been on the wrong side of those issues or just red meat for the mid terms but I suspect it's the latter. I wonder sometimes what my Dad and my grandmother, who were staunch anti drug types, might think about weed right now but they died 10 years ago. Sometimes old people change their minds but, more often, I think most of them tend to dig in instead. Science famously moves forward one funeral at a time. Anyway, I found out my old man is trying to get in on the RWM grift and is running a newsletter and producing a radio program. I am not going to link it because I don’t want him to get encouraged with any traffic and also it is just rewarmed OAN bullshit. Just wanted to shout into the void.
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