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We played proxy Legacy again last night. I went 0-3 last week but this week I turned it around with Oops All Spells and went 2-1. The deck is hilarious and fun to use. A turn 1 win never gets old, and using Pact of Negation to keep the Azorius Control player from disrupting the combo with Force pitching Force feels very good. My only loss was to 8-Cast, where I just couldn't get a good opener and lost to stuff like Grafdigger's Cage and Pithing Needle. I did manage to get some lucky Force of Vigor draws that slowed him down and almost let me grind out one more win, but drawing my Dread Return with no Thoughseize or Cabal Therapy to get it out of my hand kinda killed me. Overall Legacy was a lot of fun and getting to play it for no actual investment was very nice. I think I'll try some other decks too, but Oops All Spells has that nostalgia for Breakfast Burrito that I love.
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Lone Goat posted:Congratulations to the store for managing to do something cool AND unloading white bordered Gaea's Liege and Psiblast for full retail. makes me wonder why you don't hear about stores doing this anyway for regular cards, making their own "packs" and whatnot. Sell em to some 11 year olds that don't know any better and make a fortune on draft chaff
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Oct 15, 2022 12:11
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https://twitter.com/saffronolive/status/1581250201192259585?s=46&t=nCe39ZKsfWB9wFtuLcXQGw Has anyone seen an official announcement on this? Don’t figure it’ll have any kind of meaningful effect on any format, other than you can build a cheap surveil deck for pioneer/explorer using some of the GRN surveil pieces like Dimir Spybug or Disinformation Campaign
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Oct 15, 2022 13:39
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I guess DRC, the surveil king, not making any Surveil Matters cards playable meant they didn't care. Also I'd bet a ton of money that it means that Surveil is in BRO.
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Oct 15, 2022 13:46
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Serf posted:Overall Legacy was a lot of fun and getting to play it for no actual investment was very nice. I think I'll try some other decks too, but Oops All Spells has that nostalgia for Breakfast Burrito that I love.
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Oct 15, 2022 13:48
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https://mythicspoiler.com/one/index.html Looks like we're already getting the Phyrexia All Will Be One spoilers
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With a taste of your lips, I'm on a ride You're toxic, I'm slippin' under With a taste of a poison paradise I'm addicted to you Don't you know that you're toxic?
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kalel posted:Don't you know that you're toxic? Tht's what the report button is for.
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kalel posted:makes me wonder why you don't hear about stores doing this anyway for regular cards, making their own "packs" and whatnot. Sell em to some 11 year olds that don't know any better and make a fortune on draft chaff Way back in the days of yore when Lotus was like a 300 dollar card and I was managing a game store, I had the genius idea to get tiny envelopes that were the size of a single card, put a Lotus in one, and put junk rares we couldn't get rid of in 499 other envelopes, toss them in a big box and charge customers a dollar per pull. Which would have been a very good idea if someone didn't get super lucky within 30 pulls and pull the fuckin thing. We still ended up getting rid of a ton of inventory we couldn't sell otherwise this way, once the Lotus was gone I'd just seed another pricy card and folks were all too happy to pull for a dollar.
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Surveil was fun. Not strong, but it was neat with the aforementioned spybug and stuff
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Oct 15, 2022 14:26
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Judgy Fucker posted:Has anyone seen an official announcement on this? Don’t figure it’ll have any kind of meaningful effect on any format, other than you can build a cheap surveil deck for pioneer/explorer using some of the GRN surveil pieces like Dimir Spybug or Disinformation Campaign is that going to be in a UB commander deck with "cares about surveil" would be for brothers war, aren't both urza and mishra UB?
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Oct 15, 2022 14:35
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ilmucche posted:Surveil was fun. Not strong, but it was neat with the aforementioned spybug and stuff I got back into Magic for the first time since Masques with Arena, and recurring disinfo campaigns were the bane of my wizard poker existence. It’ll probably be bad but I want to try to recapture that energy for my own purposes
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Oct 15, 2022 14:44
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The Meathook ban did jack poo poo. The entire ladder is still mono invoke despair and sheoldred. Good job WOTC.
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From a lore standpoint it's thematically appropriate that black is oppressive right now
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kalel posted:From a lore standpoint it's thematically appropriate that black is oppressive right now OK then their dogshit unfun design is fine then.
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I wouldn't expect the meta to shift so wildly in so few days after the ban tbh. give it a bit for people to actually build up some fast/wide lists again after their being suppressed by meathook for so long and disincentivize monoB lists that just sit back and wait to play their 5+ mana bombs
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Oct 15, 2022 17:06
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flatluigi posted:I wouldn't expect the meta to shift so wildly in so few days after the ban tbh. give it a bit for people to actually build up some fast/wide lists again after their being suppressed by meathook for so long and disincentivize monoB lists that just sit back and wait to play their 5+ mana bombs lol the arena meta shifts almost instantaneously
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Oct 15, 2022 17:09
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Time posted:lol the arena meta shifts almost instantaneously Or doesn't.
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Man what Arena are you playing on I've seen 90% Mono Blue and Blue/Red.
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Time posted:lol the arena meta shifts almost instantaneously not always, and certainly not when the ban isn't a lynchpin card that's the only thing that enables a deck I don't think it's going to take ages to change but I do think that this is the first chance an aggro/go wide deck has had in standard in ages and it might take a little more time for those to show up in numbers enough to compete
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flatluigi posted:not always, and certainly not when the ban isn't a lynchpin card that's the only thing that enables a deck this hasn’t been how it works high on the ladder for arena in years. Stuff gets found and sticks in a day or so. I’m not commenting on this standard but the general “give it time” approach is not the reality of arena anymore and hasn’t been for a long time
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Does anyone have the WPN 2022 Consider Promo? Apparently that one was released this year and has Errata'd text according to Scryfall but not sure if they just scooped in some Gathering data for it. Maro had said something about promoting a mechanic to decidious but cant remember where i read it (probably his blog)
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Strong Sauce posted:Does anyone have the WPN 2022 Consider Promo? Apparently that one was released this year and has Errata'd text according to Scryfall but not sure if they just scooped in some Gathering data for it. My buddy runs a game store, this one right? 
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Strong Sauce posted:Does anyone have the WPN 2022 Consider Promo? Apparently that one was released this year and has Errata'd text according to Scryfall but not sure if they just scooped in some Gathering data for it.
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Lone Goat posted:My buddy runs a game store, this one right? yeah okay thanks. that's what i thought. HootTheOwl posted:The errata happened only hours ago, no printing is going to have "surveil" on it edit: ah nevermind i see they just added errata. i was so sure that the card was updated too
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Strong Sauce posted:yeah okay thanks. that's what i thought. The Tatyova classic that will be in Dominaria Remastered got landfall added to it also, as have all the other not-landfall cards like Courser of Kruphix, Vinelasher Kudzu, etc 
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Strong Sauce posted:yeah okay thanks. that's what i thought. I misread what you were asking, I thought you were asserting that it had been updated, and asking for a copy of the card like it was some rare find you wanted.
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Lone Goat posted:The Tatyova classic that will be in Dominaria Remastered got landfall added to it also, as have all the other not-landfall cards like Courser of Kruphix, Vinelasher Kudzu, etc They're going back and adding landfall too? But it's an ability word. It doesn't do anything.
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HootTheOwl posted:I misread what you were asking, I thought you were asserting that it had been updated, and asking for a copy of the card like it was some rare find you wanted. It's weird that they did this update seemingly at random on a weekend (unless nobody noticed this change earlier in the week?), rather than based on the release of a set. Unfinity and Warhammander came out last week but had neither of Surveil or Landfall, so why are these cards being updated today of all days? That Tatyova doesn't come out until January, and if the Surveil change is in Brothers War then that's still a month off, they haven't actually shown a card with new Surveil text yet. If anything, it feels like they accidentally updated Gatherer early? HootTheOwl posted:Wait, what? Yeah that's the funniest part, it doesn't actually exist as text BUT it does make some cards have more lines of text for Un/Acorn-cards I guess (which also don't exist????) A functional change in the least functional way possible lol Obligatory: no, it does nothing
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cool now give squee dubious monarch escape
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Heritage tournament is ongoing: https://twitch.tv/anzidmtg Cool decks, good commentary. Heritage == legacy - supplemental sets No flusterstorm, no plague engineer, etc.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Heritage tournament is ongoing: Does that include Commander, because if so, gently caress yeah.
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Hell yeah it does. Unfortunately you lose my boy baleful strix too. https://twitter.com/DougesOnTwitch/status/1573887186184810496
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Judgy Fucker posted:https://twitter.com/saffronolive/status/1581250201192259585?s=46&t=nCe39ZKsfWB9wFtuLcXQGw It's always made zero sense to me that mtg has a library of keywords, and they don't tend to user them outside the set that creates them. I think this is a good change to get some congruency and consistency in mtg. Is disinformation campaign going to spiral out of control now? Very doubtful.
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HootTheOwl posted:https://mythicspoiler.com/one/index.html Wonder if Toxic will be infect w/o the poison counters. Does that already exisit?
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Legit Businessman posted:It's always made zero sense to me that mtg has a library of keywords, and they don't tend to user them outside the set that creates them. I think this is a good change to get some congruency and consistency in mtg. If you’re a new player it’s probably pretty daunting just to remember just the evergreen keywords, let alone all the one-offs that show up here and there. I don’t really care one way or the other and I’m always a bit surprised how passionate people are about making sure keywords get used. What was the last card that had a keyworded effect that didn’t have the keyword that also saw meaningful play? Is it just consider?
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Heritage tournament is ongoing: That sounds super fun actually
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The World Inferno posted:Wonder if Toxic will be infect w/o the poison counters. Does that already exisit? Yeah. It's called "wither"
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Legit Businessman posted:It's always made zero sense to me that mtg has a library of keywords, and they don't tend to user them outside the set that creates them. I think this is a good change to get some congruency and consistency in mtg. Bring back Bury
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The World Inferno posted:Wonder if Toxic will be infect w/o the poison counters. Does that already exisit? It does, it is called Wither.
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