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The sigils part of Dodecadragons is pretty miserable huh
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cum calamity posted:The sigils part of Dodecadragons is pretty miserable huh The whole game is kinda bad but I keep playing because it's still a month or two to the next orb of creation update and I gotta make numbers go up somewhere.
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Oct 10, 2022 19:49
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There continue to be updates to Synerism, and I personally have been enjoying them. The Singularity feature, once sped up, is essentially a replay of the entire game, but can be completed in 20mins. It's wild to see years of play stream by so quickly.
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Oct 10, 2022 20:06
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Cobalt60 posted:There continue to be updates to Synerism, and I personally have been enjoying them. ...until you realize that you were going too fast and didn't farm for quarks/golden quarks and upgrades at the appropriate times and are stuck for several weeks while you slowly build up the right number of golden quarks to unlock the upgrade that's actually necessary to proceed. It's piled on such a bunch of fiddly features that require being plugged into the discord community if you want to actually progress at a reasonable pace. I'm very disappointed.
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Oct 10, 2022 21:30
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cum calamity posted:The sigils part of Dodecadragons is pretty miserable huh Yeah, and the latest update added a new sigil that does nothing but unlock a bunch of automation we should have had eons ago. That and max all buttons for things that should have been automated eons ago.
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Oct 10, 2022 23:34
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dis astranagant posted:Yeah, and the latest update added a new sigil that does nothing but unlock a bunch of automation we should have had eons ago. That and max all buttons for things that should have been automated eons ago. I feel like the very first sigil should have unlocked challenge automation
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Oct 11, 2022 02:10
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You'd think an update to include that would have it all distributed across the game for where it'd make the most sense. But nah just shove it all at the end. That's basically the same thing.  I noticed the horror cam thing yesterday and am at least curious to see where that's going (if anywhere), but it's a shame that the actual game part manages to drop the ball incredibly hard on such a basic thing.
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Oct 11, 2022 09:18
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Finished challenge 7 in FAPI. The game is a fairly slow burn but its real satisfying to finish challenges in it. So many games have these incomprehensible rewards like "Your Dingleborks are raised to ^1,03" but in FAPI the rewards feel real good. Rewards like permanent talent points but also game changers like 50% cheaper cows or similar is much more fun and relatable than the previous example.
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Oct 11, 2022 11:20
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Ineptitude posted:"Your Dingleborks are raised to ^1,03"
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Oct 11, 2022 16:34
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Why do I need so many ork dingle berries? I'm having trouble with loin cloth production.
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Oct 11, 2022 16:36
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Ineptitude posted:Finished challenge 7 in FAPI. I struggle with this in a lot of idle games because the specific upgrade you're talking about is extremely good because it's one of the very few things that really fucks with an exponent in your favor. However, the existence of it means that there's such a difference that creates a wall that makes FAPI feels kind of paint by numbers. You only ever get as far as the designer intended before you need to unlock the very obvious thing that gates progress. There's not a lot of real problem solving. I think the only reason I'm still playing is that it's an idle I can poke at on my phone, but I'm also constantly frustrated by that too. I know if I played it properly on my computer I'd have already finished the current available content. I wish some of the upgrades that gate progress were more subtle, but afaik, the game doesn't have a screen like NGU or Synergism that gives you a readout on all the numbers. So if the game did make you do what NGU or Synergism does it would be hella annoying to figure out what to do to unfuck your progress.
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Oct 12, 2022 03:26
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I downloaded a bunch of idle games from Steam new releases, most had interesting ideas. After testing a bunch, I find the most interesting the Potato Farmer one people in here talk about. Is weird how a good incremental game can be something truly ugly.
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Oct 12, 2022 20:36
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Tei posted:I downloaded a bunch of idle games from Steam new releases, most had interesting ideas. Right!? NGU had probably been my favorite of the dozen or so I've played over the years and it's just ms paint level art.
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Oct 13, 2022 02:19
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Tei posted:I downloaded a bunch of idle games from Steam new releases, most had interesting ideas. I feel attacked. Idle game I'm working on has some truly bad graphics.
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Oct 13, 2022 02:42
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Tei posted:I downloadedy a bunch of idle games from Steam new releases, most had interesting ideas. I have my farmer wear the armour with the full visor so I don't have to look at his ugly stupid face.
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Oct 13, 2022 06:10
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Suran37 posted:Right!? NGU had probably been my favorite of the dozen or so I've played over the years and it's just ms paint level art. NGU's art for bosses is good and fun. Potato Farmer looks like an early 2000s animated browser ad.
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Oct 13, 2022 06:12
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FAPI advice? I have all the dudes at 4000ish, have unlocked the first 4 brewings and have gotten those to ~300ish. About 2m milk, with 70% in atk/def. I have done challenges 1-7 and gotten class challenges all to 2-4. Reincarnation level is 1500ish. All gear has the highest qty of reincarnation exp i have seen for that slot so far. What is my gameplan now? Just grind for reincarnation levels until i get to 2000 and get access to more reincarnation skills? Am i better off picking the reincarnation exp key nodes (and thus hampering progress due to less offensive stats) or will i get more gain to reincarnation exp from using those 40 points into offensive talents and being able to progress further? Are those key nodes that increase all your stats by 1 any good? I have been picking them but it is difficult to see if it gives any immediate benefit and impossible (for me) to math out of they are any good in the long run. They certainly SOUND good.
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Oct 13, 2022 09:18
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There's other people on here who are much bigger FAPI sweatlords than me, but my general use build for pushing Reincarnation has been (roughly in order): Full ring around the skill tree, to pick up all the +Stat per Level nodes, along the way only detour to pick up +Exp nodes that are either right off the track or one node off the track. Once I have the full ring, I go for the Hoer's deep tree, specifically (almost) all the +Exp modifier nodes. If I get blocked due to needing to spend more points, I splice in the next goal, getting all the +Reincarnation nodes. I also splice in any missing +Exp that is one step away from an existing bought node. As stated, I am not as far as others, right now I am finishing Ascension 1, but this feels really good because I can get 100+ Reincarnation levels in runs that last around 2 hours. My current Reincarnation level is 2670, my goal in Asc1 is 3750, so it shouldn't take me that many more runs to Ascend 2. Bad image that doesn't show everything but should give an idea:  I run this on every class, and always switch to whichever one is the current lowest for my next run. Runs currently end in early World 4 Easy, and I can almost finish World 3 Medium. ------------------------------ "Just grind for reincarnation levels until i get to 2000 and get access to more reincarnation skills?" Yes. The Reincarnation skills are great and should always be a priority. "second question" I feel like the stats spread you get from doing the ring around, plus normal +Exp nodes carry you well enough, if I remember my Ascension 0 times correctly. I only started targeting Reincarnation Exp nodes as per the guide above, AFTER I had the full ring + Hoer deep tree Exp stuff. "third question" I mean, I feel that they are but who knows, because: I am certain someone will log in and inform me that the above is incredibly low efficiency or just Bad (tm), and idk, maybe they're right, but I'm cruising through the last bit of Ascension 1 and it feel great. KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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Oct 13, 2022 10:06
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KazigluBey posted:I am certain someone will log in and inform me that the above is incredibly low efficiency or just Bad (tm), and idk, maybe they're right, but I'm cruising through the last bit of Ascension 1 and it feel great.
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Oct 13, 2022 10:28
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dipple posted:At a certain point you'll want to pivot to grabbing as many of the +milk residue nodes as you can reach as they do serious heavy lifting to get you across the finish line Yeah I figured, although I feel like that probably gets magnified much more once I have that Ascension upgrade that lowers the time it takes for Milk to be produced. This is also one of those specialist one-off builds no? Like how you might want to do a big +Worm Drop/Amount run with Harvester just to push Cows a bit? So in this case I'd do a lengthy run where I pick all Milk Residue nodes and sit on it for a while to push the upgrades, then switch back to the previous build to reap rewards? Actually now that I think about it my Resurrection build is almost topping off on what I currently want to pick up, so maybe just pivoting it to Milk Residue as the next target would be fine. KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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Oct 13, 2022 10:37
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Thanks! Sounds like im roughly on the right track
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Oct 13, 2022 12:43
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Ineptitude posted:FAPI advice? You runs should be getting you a bit over 640 points so you can now easily get 6 reincarnation nodes and 1 residue node, which will vastly outperform anything else you can do with those points. Once you get to this point in the game you get enough random stuff pathing between reincarnation nodes that you aren't losing much power by ignoring everything else and just getting as many of these two nodes as you can. KazigluBey posted:Yeah I figured, although I feel like that probably gets magnified much more once I have that Ascension upgrade that lowers the time it takes for Milk to be produced. This is also one of those specialist one-off builds no? Like how you might want to do a big +Worm Drop/Amount run with Harvester just to push Cows a bit? So in this case I'd do a lengthy run where I pick all Milk Residue nodes and sit on it for a while to push the upgrades, then switch back to the previous build to reap rewards? Residue accumulates over time and really doesn't have anything to do with milk other than sharing the timer. You absolutely cannot just do a 'residue run,' you have to get residue nodes at the beginning of the run, all the time, on all runs (other than really short/challenge runs.) It's not really that residue is amazingly good but that the tree is the only way you can get more of it Everything else on the tree (other than reinc xp nodes) is already deep into diminishing returns because you have a bunch of it from other sources so the value of their nodes on the tree is extremely low.
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Ineptitude posted:FAPI advice? I'm really just echoing what cyrn said: get the reincarnation and residue nodes. 4 reinc nodes already double your reinc exp, and there's probably nothing in the tree at this point that you'd want more except the residue one. I've now gathered ~6500 residue in my current ascension, and I'm at 72% reduced requirement for reincarnation levels. As you start getting higher and higher levels, the exp needed grows alot. Last run I had ~85% reduced requirement, and with 10 reincarnation nodes I'd be only getting roughly 20 reincarnation levels per hour, so without them, and getting all the residue I can (this was without the milk time reducer btw) I would've only gotten like 4-5 per hour. Stats from key nodes might seem like they're nice, but at this point you're already getting like 6 points to everything, so even with all the key nodes you'd only double your stats, and with scaling being what it is it probably would let you push only one stage higher. I actually tried this last ascension and grabbed all the stats I could, and I'd only get from 4-4 to 4-5, barely, and not enough to make it worth it to farm the latter. You need to grab some anyway while going for more reincarnation nodes, and getting any more than that would be a waste. If I could skip them while going for more residue and reincarnation exp, I would, but alas. Now what does one stage higher get you? 10% more exp and potatoes (I don't know how much it affects skulls), that's it at this point. At area 4 it's 50%, so a bit better for farming levels, but before that (and after, really) it's negligible compared to what reincarnation exp node gives you. After you've gotten all the reincarnation and residue nodes that you can and can't make enough levels to get more, then you can choose something else, but game revolves really hard on that one stat that you should focus on.
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cum calamity posted:The sigils part of Dodecadragons is pretty miserable huh I tapped out when I unlocked the second sigil and saw that it required an order of magnitude over what I was currently making in gold. I'm... I'm good, thanks.
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I just unlocked the second sigil and I find that I'm not experiencing as much pain as others because I'm simply pouring each sigil's power into increasing its power rate, then idling to get the unlocks that reduce the manual reset parts of the grind ASAP. Other bonuses come afterwards. Like, I can see that ending losing score for feeding dragons costs 750 power, I can see how much I get over time, I can go touch grass or read a book and boom, that big part of the manual resetting grind is gone.
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Oct 15, 2022 02:22
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Definitely took about two to three days to complete everything in Dodeca, not a bad little diversion but definitely something that could be built upon in the future. Has there been an update to Orb of Creation? I felt like once it hit Steam it just fizzled out entirely.
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Oct 15, 2022 02:32
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Buzkashi posted:Has there been an update to Orb of Creation? I felt like once it hit Steam it just fizzled out entirely. A devlog came out a little under a month ago, it looks like the next update will wildly shake up the current game if not require a full reset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-x99JeljU I can't blame Marple too much for the development going slowly, it's really, really easy to lose momentum on a project like this when you have a full time job. especially when the changes are adding big new mechanics to what is a relatively complicated game compared to most idles.
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Deki posted:A devlog came out a little under a month ago, it looks like the next update will wildly shake up the current game if not require a full reset. OoC has really good bones for an idle so I'm excited to see what they come up with. Being able to "push" your resource limits is really fun
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Oct 15, 2022 16:16
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Yeah I loved breaking the caps by just focusing on extreme generation
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Oct 15, 2022 16:59
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anyone know of anything recent that's akin to antimatter dimensions
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Oct 15, 2022 17:01
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It's not recent but if you never played it FE000000 is imo far and away the best of the AD-likes and still possibly my favorite idler ever.
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Fe000000 is good
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Got bored of FAPI very quick. Game is good, but seems I am fan of incrementals that sell a story or something.
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Ineptitude posted:Fe000000 is good Finished it recently and can confirm.
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Oct 16, 2022 07:27
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Agreed on FE0000000000000000000000 being amazing.OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:anyone know of anything recent that's akin to antimatter dimensions Matter Dimensions is a cool twist on it. Requires you to do a lot of manual resets though
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Sindai posted:It's not recent but if you never played it FE000000 is imo far and away the best of the AD-likes and still possibly my favorite idler ever. yeah I finished that a while ago  GrossMurpel posted:Agreed on FE0000000000000000000000 being amazing. I'll give this a go
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:anyone know of anything recent that's akin to antimatter dimensions It's not out yet, but actual antimatter dimensions has a listing on steam for their new huge update which is probably actually immienent-ish now: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1399720/Antimatter_Dimensions/ which should also be on the mobile and web versions when it comes out.
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F00000 is this? https://dan-simon.github.io/misc/fe000000/ it looks really weird, will try to get into it
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It looks weird at first but the core gameplay is just Antimatter Dimensions, until suddenly there is More.
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I'm finally getting back into Farmer Against Potatoes Idle after putting it down for a few weeks-ish. I just unlocked Ascension but I'm a few hundred levels shy after reincarnating (2621/3000). I forget - what should I be doing right now? I have the first seven challenges done, and I have like 33 cows. E: basically obliterated Challenge 8 so that's done now too. ZZT the Fifth fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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