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i say swears online posted:yeah i think we may have the same blinders as when "haha we prosecuted your CEO, now your business will fail!" happened from the paragraph immediately preceding the bit I quoted quote:The inward turn is also squeezing out foreigners — though not all of them, of course. The Party is happy to host certain skilled individuals, such as English language teachers and pet bloggers, who amplify its messages about how the Tibetan and Uyghur peoples have benefitted from Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. Equally, the few hundred thousand Southeast Asians toiling on its production lines are welcome to stay. But at the levels of business management and control, something significant is happening. what I'm hearing is that the CPC doesn't worry too much about foreign immigrants who are ordinary people, but is increasingly hostile and persecutory towards foreign executives a political party in the west which ran on this immigration platform would win in a landslide, but our societies and news media are run by and for corporate managers and have fully internalised the idea that they are the backbone of civilisation, so any country which doesn't value Business Managers must be committing national suicide
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 06:52 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:35 |
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america you nasty bitch
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 07:04 |
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:a political party in the west which ran on this immigration platform would win in a landslide lol no we're really racist here
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 07:35 |
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all the foreign capitalists parking some stuff in USA is not something the USA is going to reverse if the USA is the safehouse of the world's rich and powerful its a strength for our own rich and powerful
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 07:51 |
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China, like Japan, could probably benefit from welcoming foreigners with easy immigration rules but also like Japan they won't only island nations (australia, taiwan, etc) or like Germany (I think?) realize more open immigration suppresses wages and gets them talent
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 07:52 |
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Antonymous posted:China, like Japan, could probably benefit from welcoming foreigners with easy immigration rules but also like Japan they won't it's easy for tech workers to immigrate to japan. not suppressing wages and fear of creating an economic underclass is a big driver for why japan limits immigration. ppl like to write it off as racism or xenophobia or w/e, which does exist, but it isn't the primary driver behind it.
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 08:06 |
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Antonymous posted:China, like Japan, could probably benefit from welcoming foreigners with easy immigration rules but also like Japan they won't yeah I shouldn't have worded my post to sound like China is that welcoming to foreign immigrants, I just thought the article's hand wringing about xenophobia towards corporate execs was funny
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 08:12 |
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lemme guess does this op-ed ends in 'but our democracy will prevail' steaming-tier takes
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 10:05 |
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Antonymous posted:China, like Japan, could probably benefit from welcoming foreigners with easy immigration rules but also like Japan they won't canada
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 11:23 |
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immigrating to china as a tech worker or something is not hard at all if you have a degree and a company that wants you here. it’s just that most tech workers don’t want to do it and there’s a language barrier, but man legally it’s so much easier to move to china to work in an office job than it is to move to america or europe to do the same
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 12:25 |
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This latest round of semiconductor law is very harsh, also I believe timed during the 20th congress so there is no immediate response. I heard some analysts said as harsh as some of the Huawei sanctions. I think some of you are getting it wrong, the ban on the Americana citizens and not for US born Americans. It aims squarely at the Chinese Americans and Taiwanese Americans who went to US to acquire their engineering degrees, worked for US companied and applied for US citizenships, and recently went back to mainland to work for new Chinese fabs or started their small semi design business. I heard there are about 200 of them in the business. I think this must be a conservative figure, because my impression is that the US semiconductor sector has huge numbers of Chinese Americans and Chinese green card holders. Chinese participation in US hardware business is as big as Indian in software business. Whenever you see a think tank zoom video of this subject, you always get 3-4 Asian faces with Chinese last names and 1 white guy former CEO from Qualcomm or whatever. Taiwan switched to pinyin style spelling 10 years ago, so its hard to tell from a glance whether a person is from Taiwan or mainland. It's interesting how the US elites point their legal hammer instead to the US companies, to the individuals directly, basically the most educated segment of the Chinese immigrates. This is the continuation of Trump's injustice prosecution of the Chinese American college professors who do some projects with Chinese universities and "didn't report on the collaboration". I expect DOJ will go after some Chinese Americans who forget to stop 100% of their work with Chinese companies, or doesn't renounce their US citizenships in time. The reason I use the phrase "interesting" is that these laws force the Chinese American professionals to immediately choose a side, it's beneficial to US in short term but its not necessarily beneficial to the US in media term. Think about it, you are a Chinese American who grew up in China and acquired the US citizenship in your 30s. You have conflicted allegiance. So US is forcing you to take a side, however if you renounce your US citizenship and get a citizenship in Singapore or whatever, you don't have to take a side, because China is not forcing you to cut the tie. You can still do business with US via proxies and third party vendors. Of course, I expect majority of them will cut their tie with China if they have family and children in US already. Another medium and long term fallout of this law is that the US will lost the future pool of aspiring engineering students from China. I guess the Biden admin doesn't care about that anymore. They won't even win the Nov. election. edit, actually if you are a Singapore citizen and has a semi company based in Singapore, you can still do biz with US legally. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 14:39 on Oct 15, 2022 |
# ? Oct 15, 2022 14:32 |
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All the Chinese nationalist content creators love the new law. Yes we will cripple the Chinese economy by cutting off their supply of *checks notes* people with STEM degrees who want to remain American citizens or permanent residents. They'll never recover from this.
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 15:02 |
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That might be something that directly affects my family though, and I'm pretty concerned.
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 15:12 |
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Palladium posted:lemme guess does this op-ed ends in 'but our democracy will prevail' steaming-tier takes article is dumb and about how US technology sanctions against china are actually defensive in nature because of how hostile china is. this is because china is an evil authoritarian country. they have intentions of using chip technologies for “military-civil fusion” presumably in contrast to the US?? the US began sanctioning china and panicking because the US had no other choice. china might use chips for military purposes and to control their oppressed population, an incredible feat of projection theres a throw away line about how the US and china need to cooperate on climate change and cyber terrorism, but its actually china that is ruining the possibility of cooperation (even though china is in favor of international cooperation, and doesnt require everyone they trade with to adopt their own economic and political model lest they face ruinous sanctions. or at the point of a gun if they seem easy to beat in lopsided wars to “open” their markets to western exploitation) “Today, the U.S. and its partners lead, but China is determined to catch up — and we are now determined to prevent that. Game on.” friedman is channeling his Suck On This pomposity here. he also paints china’s power projection abroad as being “creepy”. i assume this is in contrast to the non creepy US which only kills millions of people in aggressive wars. those millions deserve to Suck On This for defying us he then talks about how advanced chip manufacturing supply chains are dependent on the US, netherlands, germany, and taiwan. friedman completely ignores rare earth mineral extraction, of which china is far and away the top country in production of. china produces 4x the amount of rare earths as its nearest competitor, the united states. rare earth minerals are not mentioned once. i wonder why the assertion becomes that it’s impossible for china to become self sufficient in chip manufacturing, that they will never catch up without buying equipment and expertise from the west, and that their progress so far is because they steal technology. also that taiwan has the best chip manufacturing because they can be subservient to the west and not steal so, the typical hypocritical neoliberal pablum, and plenty of condescension toward anyone who isnt a westerner. non-westerners who Know Their Place and dont have any self interest, who dont get uppity, and whose only ambitions are to grease the wheels of us, the masters of the universe, are the only countries we can deal with. china will use chips to strengthen their military. in reaction the peace loving democracies must slow china down so their own militaries can maintain a technological edge the conclusion is that china is militarily aggressive, very scary and a huge threat to the good guys, but also china is bumbling and inept. ignore that china is massive, is churning out engineers and scientists in astonishing numbers, has plenty of rare earth minerals to mine, and is going to have a GDP far past the US, germany, netherlands, and taiwan combined in the near future. why exactly china cant become self sufficient in advanced chip manufacturing isnt actually explained its cope. every thomas friedman column is about how anyone not following the neoliberal model is doomed, and that only american defined notions of free trade (that we are allowed to break by sanctions and tariffs once the capitalists start pissing their pants) are sustainable. all his predictions turn out completely wrong but that doesnt really matter because his job is to tell western elites what they want to hear. friedman is still a great example of american hubris that rests, like many other western courtiers, on the now stale huffed fumes of the 90s post USSR imperial hegemony
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 15:49 |
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stephenthinkpad posted:edit, actually if you are a Singapore citizen and has a semi company based in Singapore, you can still do biz with US legally. funny when the singapore govt recently gave a very public statement about 'will not tolerate any foreign power interfering with our sovereignty' hmmph i wonder where can that threat come from
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 15:55 |
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 16:08 |
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You are missing the Saudi flag poland ball.
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 16:19 |
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"suddenly"' tom went from "suck on this" to "we're fighting china AND russia now? uhh soooo THAT happened" he's really lost his mojo
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 16:48 |
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Are there any reliable sources for updates on the new chinese government
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 16:55 |
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Oglethorpe posted:Are there any reliable sources for updates on the new chinese government and more specifically, does anyone have insight on whether xi will be re-affirmed in his current title? or is it possible they change his title to Mao's old one that hasn't been in use since? and what's the significance if so?
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 17:01 |
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I heard you need a million dollars to do this
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 17:47 |
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Red and Black posted:https://twitter.com/hikosaemon/status/1580734414862290947?s=46&t=YzHeM8cqWKIXb1oMICya6A my guy himosaemon sounds like a well read anarchist
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 17:49 |
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i say swears online posted:and more specifically, does anyone have insight on whether xi will be re-affirmed in his current title? or is it possible they change his title to Mao's old one that hasn't been in use since? and what's the significance if so? Every source I've seen says that there is basically 0% chance Xi will not retain his current position, I dunno about title changes tho.
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 17:51 |
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Every source I've seen says that there is basically 0% chance Xi will not retain his current position, I dunno about title changes tho. yeah i'm not talking about him losing power, just a title change. its probably semantics but whether he'll be general secretary or chairman or both is affecting betting markets https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7209/Will-Xi-Jinping-be-re-elected-CCP-General-Secretary-before-2023 if he's named chairman instead of gensec then this market resolves no and a whole lot of people lose money lol
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 18:10 |
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Every source I've seen says that there is basically 0% chance Xi will not retain his current position, I dunno about title changes tho. I hear he was couped though
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 18:20 |
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fart simpson posted:my guy himosaemon sounds like a well read anarchist As much as I enjoy a jab at the anarchists, my guess is this guy is just a conservative weeb from New Zealand or Australia (can’t tell the difference between the flags)
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 19:03 |
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Palladium posted:"operate freely' is a weird way to spell 'entitled white privilege' the chicoms heff ruined china
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 19:40 |
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i say swears online posted:and more specifically, does anyone have insight on whether xi will be re-affirmed in his current title? or is it possible they change his title to Mao's old one that hasn't been in use since? and what's the significance if so? he will be one step closer to "dictator for life," some critics say
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 20:07 |
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Red and Black posted:https://twitter.com/hikosaemon/status/1580734414862290947?s=46&t=YzHeM8cqWKIXb1oMICya6A
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 20:18 |
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suddenly remembering the tokyo olympics https://world-flags.org/
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Christ this makes me embarrassed The chances of him being a fat sex pest are 100%
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 20:22 |
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skipmyseashells posted:america you nasty bitch
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 22:04 |
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The most powerful man in China, The Guardian The Guardian posted:This week in Beijing, Xi Jinping will preside over one of his country’s great shows of political theatre and seal a long-planned political triumph, consolidating his power and extending his rule. The Guardian posted:In reality they have been hand-picked to rubber-stamp Xi’s new term, and endorse an agenda and a new senior leadership team largely settled in months of behind-the-scenes wrangling. The Guardian posted:Human rights concerns have spilled over into some supply chains, pushing companies to explore manufacturing elsewhere. Climate change is badly affecting China already. And an over-stretched real estate sector appears to be heading towards a crash. The Guardian posted:But Beijing is approaching the moment when it may be possible. Earlier this year, the deputy director of the CIA, David Cohen, said that while China’s leaders – particularly Xi – would prefer a bloodless route to control of Taipei, they want the military to be capable of seizing Taiwan by 2027.
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 23:08 |
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 23:08 |
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didn’t the Vietnamese president do this last year? i wonder what the reactions for him were
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 23:22 |
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It would be fine if they had a bourgeois popularity contest before hand, like Germany.
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# ? Oct 15, 2022 23:56 |
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THS2 posted:Unlike many others, the Guardian has no shareholders and no billionaire owner. hmmm
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# ? Oct 16, 2022 00:11 |
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Slavvy posted:The chances of him being a fat sex pest are 100%
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FrancisFukyomama posted:didn’t the Vietnamese president do this last year? i wonder what the reactions for him were his name is gently caress, the US killed half his family, and he was in charge of vietnam's covid response. he sounds cool.
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