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Can't you just use bar-end friction shifters to fulfill your flat bar needs?
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Shadowhand00 posted:Can't you just use bar-end friction shifters to fulfill your flat bar needs? Slavvy posted:Maybe he just likes them more, maybe he just wants to do some bespoke poo poo instead of solving his problem with a spreadsheet This is still my go to reference for ratio / cable pull numbers for various drivetrains: http://blog.artscyclery.com/science-behind-the-magic/science-behind-the-magic-drivetrain-compatibility/ It captures in precise numbers why some hacks work (like pairing SRAM 10spd MTB RDs with big capacity to SRAM 11spd road shifters). As you can see, the 11spd stuff is not exactly the same cog pitch from brand to brand or MTB vs road, but it works ok in practice (I never got Campy 11 cassette to work right with Shimano shifting). 12 spd isn't even on there cuz the article is dead. I'm emailing Sunrace support right now to double check that their 12spd RD is in fact Shimano compatible, which means I'm out of luck with my Sunrace 12spd shifter, which is SRAM compatible. quote:I don't see how buying an entire bike is cheaper than a pair of levers, a pair of MTB shifters and some cable stuff. Maybe another $30 if you want to keep front shifting. $20 of housing, and cables if the shifters don't come with. $25-100 for however nice you want your brake levers to be. $60 for a flat bar and stem to get the geometry to match. $20 for decent grips. And then, what, maybe $150 for a shop to do the swap for you if you don't know what you're doing? Maybe around $400 total? With $50-100 from resale of the swapped parts to sell on eBay over a few months (or never, in my case). It's not necessarily an apples to apples purchase. You can still find totally decent flat bar bikes in the high hundreds. They're probably gonna be a step back from 11spd, but they might be hydro, which would be a real step up in some ways. Sell your road bike and you'll probably be at or below the total outlay of the swap. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Oct 14, 2022 |
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Oct 14, 2022 15:27
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Slavvy posted:Who said anything about a chain ring...? What? I wouldn't refer to cassettes as "1x" . You doing so was confusing. You can run Shimano MTB cassettes and such as 2x (even 12 speed). I'd refer to the chainring up front as 1x or 2x because that makes a lot more sense.
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Oct 14, 2022 17:20
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Aren't most flat bars wider than drops making them worse for traffic weaving?
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Oct 14, 2022 18:35
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i think i have found a solution to both the shifter and bar width problem for the OP
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Oct 14, 2022 19:10
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numberoneposter posted:i think i have found a solution to both the shifter and bar width problem for the OP Shifters and brakes solved too. Now you can safely wheely between lanes of traffic  
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Oct 14, 2022 19:19
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The perfect fixie brake is one where you squeeze the saddle with your legs to activate it.
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Oct 14, 2022 20:00
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When your rear end puckers up because of the danger you're in the bike automatically brakes.
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Oct 14, 2022 20:10
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I miss the sweet fixie era. Such good content
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Oct 14, 2022 20:16
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kimbo305 posted:words Ok but what if he really likes his current bike, or is just stubborn, or whatever? When I say doing things by a spreadsheet I'm referring to boiling everything down into cost/benefit as opposed to just doing dumb stuff cause you want to. I will admit the idea of paying people to work on a bicycle never occurred to me though. otoh why would anyone do either of these things, what the hell
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Oct 14, 2022 21:35
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Slavvy posted:Ok but what if he really likes his current bike, or is just stubborn, or whatever? When I say doing things by a spreadsheet I'm referring to boiling everything down into cost/benefit as opposed to just doing dumb stuff cause you want to. they were probably just doing dumb stuff cause they wanted to
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Oct 14, 2022 21:58
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The level in the middle of the bars is excellent. It should be one of those big red "STOP" buttons though, like you would see on an industrial machine.
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Oct 14, 2022 22:33
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Slavvy posted:Ok but what if he really likes his current bike, or is just stubborn, or whatever? When I say doing things by a spreadsheet I'm referring to boiling everything down into cost/benefit as opposed to just doing dumb stuff cause you want to. If they can afford it, it’s no problem. But expense came up. Woe be if they come up short halfway and need to spend justs much to fix issues, leaving them without a bike for that much longer.
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Oct 14, 2022 22:39
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Slavvy posted:otoh why would anyone do either of these things, what the hell There was a weird period in the 2000s where the Internet echo chamber turned a bunch of people wanting to be like this  Into something like this  People wanting to ride brakeless like a real messenger but having local laws that could actually get them ticketed for not having working brakes resulted in some compromises
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Oct 14, 2022 23:59
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Paid for a Retul fit with a top rated fitter here. 1.5-2 hours of fitting and  boiled down to:1. Raising my seat by 5mm. 2. Tilting my seat back by 1 degree 3. Putting a shim in my right shoe. Can't wait to ride a pass tomorrow!
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Oct 15, 2022 03:19
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Earlier this year had some guy running on the path following us and yelling at me to raise my seat up on the home stretch of a 3 day bikepacking trip, so let me be the first to tell you your seat's too low
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Oct 15, 2022 03:43
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Dog Case posted:Shifters and brakes solved too. Now you can safely wheely between lanes of traffic nice
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Oct 15, 2022 04:12
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Dog Case posted:There was a weird period in the 2000s where the Internet echo chamber turned a bunch of people wanting to be like this Running without brakes on streets is dumb as hell. They aren't on fixed gear track bikes presumably because that's a good way to start a pileup in a velodrome. It doesn't make it some necessary part of riding without gears.
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Oct 15, 2022 11:48
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T.C. posted:Running without brakes on streets is dumb as hell. They aren't on fixed gear track bikes presumably because that's a good way to start a pileup in a velodrome. It doesn't make it some necessary part of riding without gears. drat never heard this before thanks
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Oct 15, 2022 16:20
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The real messenger in that pic is running a front brake, though (and good for him).
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Oct 15, 2022 19:30
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It’s hard for me to be overly critical of brakeless fixed gear riders when we just went through an episode where someone completely ignored all advice on how to actually stop on a bicycle with brakes, then forced a bike shop to swap the brakes around for a really dumb loving reason. The term unsafe at any speed comes to mind. Or maybe unsafe at any acceleration. TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Oct 15, 2022 |
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Oct 15, 2022 19:36
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TobinHatesYou posted:It’s hard for me to be overly critical of brakeless fixed gear riders when we just went through an episode where someone completely ignored all advice on how to actually stop on a bicycle with brakes, then forced a bike shop to swap the brakes around for a really dumb loving reason. 
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Oct 15, 2022 22:38
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maybe the real brakes were the friends we made along the poo poo poo poo (crashing sounds)
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Oct 15, 2022 22:49
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YanniRotten posted:maybe the real brakes were the friends we made along the poo poo poo poo (crashing sounds) What is that from?
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Oct 15, 2022 23:31
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me posting Oct 2022
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   Almost 4k feet climbing today! I learned: 1. I need to find my arm warmers. 2. Coming down 4k feet is nerve-wracking.
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Oct 16, 2022 00:23
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Squaw Pass is so good.
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dema posted:Squaw Pass is so good. Thanks for the suggestion! The way up involved only one group of assholes (with Illinois plates) yelling, but was otherwise smooth sailing. I thought I'd be fine in a short sleeve jersey since it was supposed to be 60 in Denver, but ended up being a bit chilly on the descent.  It is making me think about doing the Triple Bypass next summer with a friend. Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Oct 16, 2022 |
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Oct 16, 2022 01:21
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With how the northeast is, I don't have the confidence to come down the road fast only to rip poo poo on a pothole that sends me soaring
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Oct 16, 2022 01:57
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GreenBuckanneer posted:With how the northeast is, I don't have the confidence to come down the road fast only to rip poo poo on a pothole that sends me soaring Same reason I haven't upgraded to a carbon bike yet or left the trails
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Oct 16, 2022 03:06
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Fall century today. 
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Oct 16, 2022 03:22
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Nice!
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Welp, I just ruined a new $250 replacement carbon stem because my torque wrench didn't engage properly (and also because I am not a clever man). How are your weekend bike projects going??
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Oct 16, 2022 07:34
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Hoopy Frood posted:Welp, I just ruined a new $250 replacement carbon stem because my torque wrench didn't engage properly (and also because I am not a clever man). How are your weekend bike projects going?? The rear disc on my friends tandem was in bad shape. We bought a whopping 220mm disc. I placed it on the back wheel, the hope adaptor rubbed the disc, I ground it down untill it cleared, the caliper fouled the adaptor one way round or it was impossible to put the mounting bolts through the other way round. So I put the old front disc on the rear and put the new disc on the front with the adaptor positioned so the brake pads were over the disc the brake caliper fouled the adaptor. I turned up a couple of spacers on my lathe and three hours later I was ready to adjust the brakes.
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Oct 16, 2022 20:46
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So what you're saying is you have a lathe 
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I once turned a wrench the wrong way for a reverse threaded cup/cone on a Dura-ace C24 hub, stripped the threads and effectively trashed the entire front wheel.
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Hoopy Frood posted:Welp, I just ruined a new $250 replacement carbon stem because my torque wrench didn't engage properly (and also because I am not a clever man). How are your weekend bike projects going?? I took my bike to the shop after I halfassedly put it back together out of the box (I had it shipped back to me from a vacation) to have them do it properly and found out I need a new headset and the mechanic loudly made fun of me in front of the whole store.
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Residency Evil posted:It is making me think about doing the Triple Bypass next summer with a friend. I recommend it. Great support, fun atmosphere and a decent route. Only downside, a bit of the route is paths and frontage roads along 70. Not super exciting.
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kimbo305 posted:So what you're saying is you have a lathe 
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