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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

How this woman ever got to be not only a fêted head teacher but "Social Mobility Chair" I do not know.

https://twitter.com/Miss_Snuffy/status/1581167885502013445

Fetid head teacher.

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Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009
Yeah but I feel the press would be fine with Starmer/Reeves at this point.

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

A lot of people taking out mortgages at higher rates now will still likely be on those same rates in a couple of years, so even if an election isn’t for a while, the constant reminder of Truss and Kwarteng will be there.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
During your times of trial and suffering, it was then that I said "we import two sets of footprints every year, that is a disgrace."

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Tomberforce posted:

2 years plenty of time for them to install a suit with a veneer of competence and the press machine to gaslight the country into voting them back in again imo.

aye, especially as the two or three times keef has faced even minimally negative press attention he's looked like a kid who shat themselves midway through the nativity performance and decided to keep going

and there's a lot to go after him on, legit or legit enough for the gutter press

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

minema posted:

loving 4 month loving wait to see a gynaecologist about my orange sized ovarian cyst that is causing constant pain and stopping me from doing basically anything other than lying on the sofa once I've got home from work, gently caress what Tories have done to the NHS

Have you been told "it's just your age deary" yet (by a female GP!)

I didn't have that but had something else gynae causing me agony for over a year & my GP just kept saying it was my age. I paid for a private exam in the end and when they found something that needed operating on, phoned the insurance provider for work (which I had never signed up for as I wasn't quite high enough up the tree to get it as a perk), told them the situation and they accepted me and paid for me to go private to a BUPA hospital. (Thank goodness when I saw the bills coming through, well over £3k in 2006!)

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

Lady Gaza posted:

A lot of people taking out mortgages at higher rates now will still likely be on those same rates in a couple of years, so even if an election isn’t for a while, the constant reminder of Truss and Kwarteng will be there.

And if this rate rises do what they are actually supposed to achieve, i.e. cool the economy, joblessness will grow.

Will the Tories actually be more popular after two years of high inflation, high interest, and a recession that really starts to bite?

It could be totally rational for them to want to get out now with a higher seat count, and have a chance to be back in 2027/2032 instead of 2029/2034.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Jakabite posted:

I don’t know the cost of this but I’m sure the UKMT hardship fund would be worth asking about paying towards going private if this is at all feasible

You could empty the fund and it wouldn't be enough for major abdominal surgery.

You could get a private appointment to see a consultant but unless they're willing to finagle your path into the NHS it won't get you past the waiting lists.

As an aside, if you do have to see someone privately, always try to see someone with a NHS practice as it makes transferring your care so much easier.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Z the IVth posted:

You could empty the fund and it wouldn't be enough for major abdominal surgery.

You could get a private appointment to see a consultant but unless they're willing to finagle your path into the NHS it won't get you past the waiting lists.

As an aside, if you do have to see someone privately, always try to see someone with a NHS practice as it makes transferring your care so much easier.

Yeah this. I just googled private cyst and you're looking at absolute minimum of £4k, highest nearly £7k, median £5kish.

Also, my brother-in-law had gall bladder stones causing agony, couldn't get anywhere with the NHS so went to a private consultation and the consultant said it needed urgent treatment and he'd push it to the NHS as an emergency.

minema
May 31, 2011

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yeah this. I just googled private cyst and you're looking at absolute minimum of £4k, highest nearly £7k, median £5kish.

Also, my brother-in-law had gall bladder stones causing agony, couldn't get anywhere with the NHS so went to a private consultation and the consultant said it needed urgent treatment and he'd push it to the NHS as an emergency.

Yeah it's pricey! My in-laws rang my husband today and have offered to pay for a private consult and even surgery if needed which is incredibly sweet of them, his dad is a retired GP and very generous. I just find it upsetting that this needs to be considered and the NHS is where it is. Each individual person has been great and really helpful but the system is just overwhelmed.

I work in outpatient physiotherapy and our waiting list is about 4 months for routine patients too, it's horrible being on either side of it.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yeah this. I just googled private cyst and you're looking at absolute minimum of £4k, highest nearly £7k, median £5kish.

Also, my brother-in-law had gall bladder stones causing agony, couldn't get anywhere with the NHS so went to a private consultation and the consultant said it needed urgent treatment and he'd push it to the NHS as an emergency.

It's not surprising since you're not just paying for a surgeon, but also the anaesthetist and the entire surgical team, rental of the theatre, consumables and all the post-operative care. If it were the US you can add a couple of zeroes to that number for rampant profiteering.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
From a friend's recent experience, the main method of action of a private GP consultation is they write your real GP a letter saying "you need to queue-jump this one before they die". You then return to the NHS care.
Some interesting reporting in the FT that's germane: https://www.ft.com/content/dbf166ce-1ebb-4a67-980e-9860fd170ba2 Out-of-pocket healthcare expenditure for UK citizens is approaching the same level of archetypal failed-healthcare-model-victims the Americans. Effectively we're already in a post-NHS state for anything that doesn't earn you the flashing blue lights.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012


ok so I can see a couple of flaws with this one,

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Z the IVth posted:

It's not surprising since you're not just paying for a surgeon, but also the anaesthetist and the entire surgical team, rental of the theatre, consumables and all the post-operative care. If it were the US you can add a couple of zeroes to that number for rampant profiteering.

And don't forget the 'hotel' bill for the room! When I had my op in 2006 (paid for by work thank goodness) the 'hotel bill' for 2 nights was about £1200 on top of the operation itself.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Endjinneer posted:

From a friend's recent experience, the main method of action of a private GP consultation is they write your real GP a letter saying "you need to queue-jump this one before they die". You then return to the NHS care.
Some interesting reporting in the FT that's germane: https://www.ft.com/content/dbf166ce-1ebb-4a67-980e-9860fd170ba2 Out-of-pocket healthcare expenditure for UK citizens is approaching the same level of archetypal failed-healthcare-model-victims the Americans. Effectively we're already in a post-NHS state for anything that doesn't earn you the flashing blue lights.

Private GP consults won't do any poo poo your real GP can't unless the problem is not being able to get an appointment to see them in the first place.

Seeing a private specialist can get them to queue jump you into their NHS practice.

Also the requirement for cancer care is somehow baked into the system legally so it is preserved at the expense of all else. If you want to be treated quickly you need to see how you can twist your symptoms into "could this be cancer?"

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

And don't forget the 'hotel' bill for the room! When I had my op in 2006 (paid for by work thank goodness) the 'hotel bill' for 2 nights was about £1200 on top of the operation itself.

Doctors fees are capped but because :capitalism: the private hospitals hotel bills aren't.

Edit Vvv I suspect the only winners are going to be the lawyers.

Z the IVth fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Oct 16, 2022

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
My Nan spent £10k of her savings, which was most of them, getting her hips replaced by bupa when she was 85 because the NHS said (in writing) she was too old and that they had to prioritise people who would outlive the predicted life of the hips. That was 11 years ago and she’s in the process of suing the hospital for her £10k back.

PowerBeard
Sep 4, 2011

I didn't realise they made cards for the monarchy.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

PowerBeard posted:

I didn't realise they made cards for the monarchy.
Sister, yes, choose, no.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
The times has cash for lobbying on the front page and what year is this?

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

learnincurve posted:

The times has cash for lobbying on the front page and what year is this?

1996 baybee

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Jel Shaker posted:

1996 baybee

I hope Santa gets me that N64 I asked for :unsmith:

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

fuctifino posted:

That Public Order Bill is, er... wow.... extreme is an understatement.

Welcome to fascism :toot: (more so)
i'm curious what the emphasis on "Tunnelling" is about, is it a known tactic?

also interesting to see that newspaper printing is considered Key National Infrastructure

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

CGI Stardust posted:

also interesting to see that newspaper printing is considered Key National Infrastructure

Can't let anyone disrupt the propaganda machine!

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
This feels like one of those things where a load of Yorkshire factory workers march down to London with pitchforks to smash up the daily telegraph’s printing presses.

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012

CGI Stardust posted:

i'm curious what the emphasis on "Tunnelling" is about, is it a known tactic?

also interesting to see that newspaper printing is considered Key National Infrastructure

I remember some people tunnelling under places where HS2 was being planned. And possibly crossrail in central London?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Oops wrong thread

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
I was going to say that Tories are all still living in 1996 terrified about Swampy tunneling under their garden in protest, but apparently he was involved with the HS2 tunneling protests last year so perhaps not as out of date as I thought.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

CGI Stardust posted:

i'm curious what the emphasis on "Tunnelling" is about, is it a known tactic?

also interesting to see that newspaper printing is considered Key National Infrastructure

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55796445

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

crispix posted:

i heard he's a creationist too?

bloody loony lefty bbc :rolleye:

If you mean Dan Walker his star power got so big he ditched Breakfast for the heady heights of a daytime quiz show.

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Rarity posted:

Can't let anyone disrupt the propaganda machine!

A while ago ExtinctionRebellion blocked the Daily Mail's printing press. Patel immediately branded them terrorists and it was obvious that it spooked them

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Long term winter weather predictions are out lasses.

Try not to freeze to death in November December and January

https://www.netweather.tv/weather-f...gy-crisis-looms

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


I should really do something about the hole in my bedroom wall before then.

(Not that dramatic, it's a hole on the interior wall where a headrest used to be, and at some point I guess it broke through & since getting a new bed I've not really bothered to cover it up, but there is a slight breeze some times in winter, I normally just put the pillows where it is to block it)

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

e: nvm

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

forkboy84 posted:

I should really do something about the hole in my bedroom wall before then.

(Not that dramatic, it's a hole on the interior wall where a headrest used to be, and at some point I guess it broke through & since getting a new bed I've not really bothered to cover it up, but there is a slight breeze some times in winter, I normally just put the pillows where it is to block it)

Lash a can of expanding foam into it

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

SixFigureSandwich posted:

A while ago ExtinctionRebellion blocked the Daily Mail's printing press. Patel immediately branded them terrorists and it was obvious that it spooked them

Now this is the kind of poo poo I like to see.

Need more stuff directly targetting the papers.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Failed Imagineer posted:

Lash a can of expanding foam into it

Yeah, do this, wait for it to settle, then paste a load of polyfiller over the top until you've got a wall again. Painting optional

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Convex posted:

Yeah, do this, wait for it to settle, then paste a load of polyfiller over the top until you've got a wall again. Painting optional

Exactly. Recommend buying one of those plastic smoothing things for a quid to get the polyfilla nice and smooth. Also slightly overfilling the hole and then sanding it back afterwards for a good finish. Takes pretty much the exact same effort as doing it wrong, and it's not annoying to look at afterwards.

Expanding foam is addictive, once you break the seal on a can you'll end up hunting your place for tiny lil cracks that need filling (hurhuehue)

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Alright lol this is definitely an op

https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1581596388793597952?t=A3x1HO2a7anANNnx4W2unQ&s=19

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Animal rights activists are their own special breed of unhinged, always have been

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DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
some steel wool stuffed into the foam will make it a lot stronger and stop rodents eating it like it was cake too

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