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I'm thinking of trying Japan for my first game because I'm new-ish to the Victoria series and it sounds like a good opportunity to tend my little garden and cultivate my society in peace. Then go insane and form the Greater Japan Co=Prosperity Sphere in a tidal wave of blood and death.
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Oct 15, 2022 13:58
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Ithle01 posted:I'm thinking of trying Japan for my first game because I'm new-ish to the Victoria series and it sounds like a good opportunity to tend my little garden and cultivate my society in peace. Then go insane and form the Greater Japan Co=Prosperity Sphere in a tidal wave of blood and death. So, Historic Japan. 
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Oct 15, 2022 14:53
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I cant find any info on this specifically and I fear the answer is no, but does anyone know if there will be a preload of Vicky 3 on steam before launch?
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Oct 15, 2022 15:53
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I don't think any paradox game ever had a pre-load. They tend to be relatively small in size. It's unlikely than Victoria 3 will be bigger than CK3.
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Oct 15, 2022 16:22
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I am thinking of playing Bohemia, Sardinia-Piedmont, or Korea for my first game.
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Oct 15, 2022 19:09
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assuming day one MP works, my first games are Afghanistan followed by Jabal Shammar.
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Oct 15, 2022 19:56
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also having watched the dev streams, I am really loving digging the warfare decisions, there is still a bunch of poo poo happening to keep track of, you just aren't in charge of the boring bullshit part of it.
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Oct 15, 2022 19:59
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I think I'll be playing something in south America as my first nation. Perhaps Venezuela.
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Oct 15, 2022 20:13
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karmicknight posted:assuming day one MP works, my first games are Afghanistan followed by Jabal Shammar. imperator day one MP was super super broken but Godspeed nonetheless
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Oct 15, 2022 20:55
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The FRCA was my favourite playthrough in Vic 2 so I want to try it again in vic 3. From Panama to the Yucutan, nach. It's fun to crank up all the living standards laws really high and get hundreds of thousands of European immigrants like a miniature USA. I'm also interested to see how things shape out with natural resource distribution, because in Vic 2 a lot of tags if they weren't big important western nations (and Japan) they tended to not have the right trade goods for a stable domestic economy. Like, if Vic 3 Madagascar or New Zealand have the resources to meet most of their needs without extra conquering, I want to give a tall playthrough as one of those a shot.
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Oct 16, 2022 07:50
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Wooper posted:I think I'll be playing something in south America as my first nation. Perhaps Venezuela. Hell yeah same Although I think the "Learn the game" start option has recommended nations so I guess it makes sense to pick one of those
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Oct 16, 2022 09:09
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if mp works my first game will be prussia or austria if it dosen't I'm actually quite interested in what playing as australia will be like
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Oct 16, 2022 09:11
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for massively singleplayer Japan seems interesting and there is always Brazil.
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Oct 16, 2022 09:12
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Red Bones posted:The FRCA was my favourite playthrough in Vic 2 so I want to try it again in vic 3. From Panama to the Yucutan, nach. It's fun to crank up all the living standards laws really high and get hundreds of thousands of European immigrants like a miniature USA. Apparently one of V3’s key advances is that a state can have multiple different resources instead of one resource per state, so small nations should be a lot more viable than before (though not necessarily self-sufficient, especially in terms of industrial resources).
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Oct 16, 2022 09:24
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First run will probably be Belgium because that’s how I learned Vicky 2. After that I have UK to shoot for world conquest (or optionally try to go communist), revanchist France, crush-the-conferderacy US, Germany, Italy and Qing runs lined up. It’s such a fascinating period. Paradox seems to have backed off from the fantasy mods since Aztec Invasion, which is a shame because a War of the Worlds DLC where you’re on the receiving end of colonisation could be really interesting.
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Oct 16, 2022 09:24
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It's a historical game about society and economics and politics, sci-fi primitive genocidal aliens will break immersion and be a detriment to the game. Now what we really need is the rise of the Great Old Ones. Dissatisfied citizens sell their souls and bodies to the one below, the depraved elites create an Esotheric Order of Dagon, nations are transformed into slaves of the incomprehensible gods.
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Oct 16, 2022 09:30
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I'll probably start with the Kingdom of Hannover, to see if I can avoid its historical fate (being crushed and annexed by Prussia). I can't possibly do any worse than the Kingdom's last king
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Oct 16, 2022 10:45
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I will probably start as Persia or Russia. Is corruption represented in the game somehow? After all, this is the time period when spoil systems were removed and actually having qualified civil servants became a cause for reformers.
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Oct 16, 2022 11:21
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you have different methods of appointing civil servants.
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Oct 16, 2022 12:07
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Beefeater1980 posted:First run will probably be Belgium because that’s how I learned Vicky 2. The endboss of Victoria is the invisible hand of the free market, so if they ever make silly DLC it should be a literal invisible hand knocking poo poo over
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Oct 16, 2022 12:27
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Deltasquid posted:The endboss of Victoria is the invisible hand of the free market, so if they ever make silly DLC it should be a literal invisible hand knocking poo poo over
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Oct 16, 2022 13:21
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Is corruption represented in the game somehow? After all, this is the time period when spoil systems were removed and actually having qualified civil servants became a cause for reformers.
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Oct 16, 2022 14:36
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If I remember correctly there's two forms of that. Tax Capacity/Efficiency is your ability to collect taxes, IE anyone outside the % being collected just isn't paying taxes. But there's also Tax Waste, which can result in a portion of the taxes you do collect not going to the government.
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Oct 16, 2022 14:41
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There was also certainly something about nepotism in terms of laws, maybe not spelled directly. I feel that Victoria 3 tries to represent things like that not as clear values but rather as a result of systems. So I guess a corrupt government will not have some sort of corruption value but rather entrenched powerful Interest Groups and specific laws like controlled courts or something.
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Oct 16, 2022 14:43
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ilitarist posted:It's a historical game about society and economics and politics, sci-fi primitive genocidal aliens will break immersion and be a detriment to the game. Porque no los dos? 
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Oct 16, 2022 14:45
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Zeron posted:If I remember correctly there's two forms of that. Tax Capacity/Efficiency is your ability to collect taxes, IE anyone outside the % being collected just isn't paying taxes. But there's also Tax Waste, which can result in a portion of the taxes you do collect not going to the government. I think one of the interest group maluses is reduced taxation income. Probably landowners or rural folk.
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Oct 16, 2022 15:02
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In two days we'll have just a week left.
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ilitarist posted:There was also certainly something about nepotism in terms of laws, maybe not spelled directly. Hereditary bureaucrats as a civil service law I think
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Oct 16, 2022 18:06
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As a boring person, my first game will be the USA. Sink or swim time, starting small and manageable is for suckers!
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Oct 16, 2022 18:13
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guidoanselmi posted:Hereditary bureaucrats as a civil service law I think Yeah, IIRC that generates Bureaucracy less efficiently but the Landowners like it.
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Oct 16, 2022 18:29
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Popoto posted:In two days we'll have just a week left. According to someone on reddit that's when we'll start getting previews from outside of Paradox too.
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Oct 16, 2022 19:32
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On an unrelated note the Paradoxplaza subreddit is starting to resemble the forums when it comes to whinging.
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Kaza42 posted:As a boring person, my first game will be the USA. Sink or swim time, starting small and manageable is for suckers! What do you mean, how could you possibly not succeed as a big country. Large countries are the easiest with the isolated US being the least risk/most resources of all! Small countries would only be easy in that nothing you do changes much, and you don't have much resources to fail at changing it with either. (At least in vicky 1+2) Industrial powerhouse Colombia is the only admirable endeavour, bah! ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Oct 16, 2022 |
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Oct 16, 2022 19:47
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Yeah I think they've mentioned that the US was one of the recommended starts for new players because they'll have a relatively easy road through the game, while also being given enough to do that it will still be interesting.
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Oct 16, 2022 20:58
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i dont think they'll have anything like this for a long time, but it would be nice if some of the expansions down the line add poo poo like the Great Depression, so the USA has to potentially manage that massive crisis as its endgame after early game transitioning to midgame with the civil war obv dont think it makes sense to focus on before release
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Oct 16, 2022 21:03
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It does seem weird to force in the Great Depression when the entire point of the game is, like, avoiding that sort of thing. Feels like it would be better to have that sort of thing to come about naturally.
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Hellioning posted:It does seem weird to force in the Great Depression when the entire point of the game is, like, avoiding that sort of thing. Feels like it would be better to have that sort of thing to come about naturally. yeah, the ideal is there'll be some sort of system that leads to that. i imagine one of the key expansions in the next few years will be around financial services and the like, to start building things that can represent it, but also be Fun and Gamified.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Yeah I think they've mentioned that the US was one of the recommended starts for new players because they'll have a relatively easy road through the game, while also being given enough to do that it will still be interesting. Prussia also looked pretty easy from the stream. Research nationalism, and get gifted a large number of very rich provinces automatically.
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Hellioning posted:It does seem weird to force in the Great Depression when the entire point of the game is, like, avoiding that sort of thing. Feels like it would be better to have that sort of thing to come about naturally. This is one of those struggles with Paradox history games, where the prescience of the player lets them avoid all the most interesting history by simply not doing the thing that caused it to happen in the first place. I suppose you could develop some sort of system that encourages the same kind of behaviour that led to the great depression but still strikes me as something a savvy player would just optimize their way around to avoid having to deal with the consequences. It's why I always feel like these games are at their most interesting before getting good at them. I think part of the reason why so many people like Victoria 2 so much is that the game is so opaque that "getting good at it" is a bigger climb than other Paradox games so you stay in that "good enough to not instantly lose, not good enough to always win" zone of ideal gameplay for longer.
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