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Gay Rat Wedding posted:Seems like maybe they shouldn’t have shipped a beta with weird non-stable-release anticheat or perhaps even have unnecessary performance-damaging anticheat in a purely noncompetitive game in general! Yup. It's anticonsumer as hell; the reason stuff like this keeps popping up in non-competitive games is primarily to protect ingame economies (inevitably designed to funnel the player toward microtransactions), not the player experience. Hell, I've seen people clearly cheating like crazy to night-instantly speedrun VT2 levels despite EAC, so it's not exactly keeping my game experience protected. Meanwhile the DRG developers allow players to bypass their ingame (and non-monitized) economy by just editing a text file if they want, and I've literally never seen anyone cheating in public games. I unconditionally loathe anticheat systems in non-competitive games.
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If they could release some of the tracks that were in beta before launch that will go a long way toward making it a shorter wait, thxRa Ra Rasputin posted:Will the Plague Ogryn be the only healthbar boss encountered in the wild on release? Vermintide2 had 3 on release and another later. Theyve been hinting at some as of yet unrevealed secondary or subfaction, so its possible there will be more.
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Corbeau posted:Oh lovely, uninstalling the beta prevents uninstalling the anticheat that the beta used. Jesus i see they're on track to mimic the horrible VT2 launch.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Will the Plague Ogryn be the only healthbar boss encountered in the wild on release? Vermintide2 had 3 on release and another later. It started with 4 and went to 5. Rat Ogre + Stormfiend + Troll + Spawn, and then Minotaur.
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Oct 17, 2022 20:36
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Does the murder target in the jail count as a boss? Edit: Oh in the wild.
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Al-Saqr posted:Betas gone… feel like poo poo…. Just want her back….
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Vargs posted:It started with 4 and went to 5. Rat Ogre + Stormfiend + Troll + Spawn, and then Minotaur. I guess I forgot about the stormfiend and just combined it with the rat ogre.
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Oct 17, 2022 21:05
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I thought Plague Ogryn was surprisingly easy for a boss and don't think it ever ended a run of mine compared to the normal specials. I didn't get to tier 4 missions though.
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To at least praise the gameplay a bit, teamwipes never felt arbitrary during my beta experience. Wipes were pretty much always caused by a failure to maintain control of a front line, meaning the players who should be popping specials were tied up in melee. Sometimes that was a result of individual mistakes causing people to be knocked down or out, meaning the remaining players couldn't put out enough killing power to hold the line. Sometimes it was because people positioned poorly and got isolated, meaning there wasn't any front line to hold. But I could always see it coming in advance, even if it was beyond my personal power to prevent. That made Darktide feel much more fair and rewarding than, say, Back 4 Blood.
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Oct 17, 2022 21:15
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Yeah one of my only teamwipes in the beta was a plague ogyrn in a super bad chokepoint who just wrecked us while a sniper picked us off.
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:I’m expecting that count of 70 in vermintide terms would count the hammer and the mace as different weapons even though they’re statistically identical and just belong to different characters. Tbh the hammer and mace are different due to the weapon combos and the shove combos. But that means you arent using the mace and sword, which is superior
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Fishstick posted:Theyve been hinting at some as of yet unrevealed secondary or subfaction, so its possible there will be more. With the whole Nurgle thing going on I'd expect some actual demons to make an appearance, especially for headhunting/boss fight missions. Chaos Spawn seems to be a shoe-in, but a Plaguebearer or even a Great Unclean One could certainly pop up as well. Or as a comedy option just a gigantic ball of Nurglings rolling around the map.
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Hire the total war 3 animator who did Nurglings in that game.  Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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Oct 17, 2022 22:16
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Nurgling golf with a thunder hammer would be a pro design move.
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Perestroika posted:With the whole Nurgle thing going on I'd expect some actual demons to make an appearance, especially for headhunting/boss fight missions. Chaos Spawn seems to be a shoe-in, but a Plaguebearer or even a Great Unclean One could certainly pop up as well. Or as a comedy option just a gigantic ball of Nurglings rolling around the map. Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Hire the total war 3 animator who did Nurglings in that game. yeah hopefully they'll be able to dig deeper into the Nurgle bestiary cause there's some great goobers there; https://bogleech.com/halloween/hall14-nurgle.html https://bogleech.com/halloween/hall18-nurgle.html like just imagine this thing being a mission boss; 
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Whats this you want space skaven using the same models from VT2? We'll get right on that  .
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Oct 17, 2022 22:47
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Jack B Nimble posted:This doesn't happen when it's the zealot because dangerous enemies are intentionally bigger than a regular person (lol should we all crank down the height slider)? The height slider doesn't actually do anything in missions, it's just for the hub. I had a suspicion about it and had a friend make a max height human against my min height one and on the end screen, everyone was exactly the same height. You can notice them pretty easily in the hub though. But, obviously not with your friends, just a bunch of random strangers. Why would you want to be in the hub with your friends???
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Oct 17, 2022 22:48
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Arghy posted:Whats this you want space skaven using the same models from VT2? We'll get right on that I mean.... I wouldn't say no.
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Arghy posted:Whats this you want space skaven using the same models from VT2? We'll get right on that This would be an improvement for 40k in general tbh.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:The height slider doesn't actually do anything in missions, it's just for the hub. I had a suspicion about it and had a friend make a max height human against my min height one and on the end screen, everyone was exactly the same height. They probably just have no experience coding a hub that your friends can load into  Also of course the height slider does nothing in the missions now that you say that, but just lol why even include it then, ugh.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:The height slider doesn't actually do anything in missions, it's just for the hub. I had a suspicion about it and had a friend make a max height human against my min height one and on the end screen, everyone was exactly the same height. It’s pretty incredible that they implemented the tower from destiny 2 complete with the joys of making you wait longer during load screens so it can connect you to a bunch of randos you’re going to run past without looking at (I found this will be just as much of an issue with fatshark’s implementation of the idea as bungie’s when I took a long time to load the mourningstar after a mission and arrived into a blob of like 12 other players who all spawned in at the same moment), but without the ability to see your actual friends there. In fact it’s a straight regression from the red moon inn or helmgart keep because you can’t see your friends nor play around with weapons.
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Internet Explorer posted:I mean.... I wouldn't say no. A wormhole opens and is stabilized by the magos. Where it leads is unknown but the major decides to send the penal legion through to investigate. Upping arrival and due to fluctuations in the time stream your handler gets into that requires you to go to a nearby tower and blow a horn to wake the sleeping natives Queue DLC 3: Re-return to Ubersreik The concept are is an Ogryn beating a lasgun-wielding rat to death with Baradins Warhammer.
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Uhhhh am I insane or does the beta not let you invert the Y-axis on a mouse?
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Apparently it did not, people were complaining up thread.
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fukkin lmao only time I've ever seen that before was in chinese MMOs guess i'm cancelling my preorder
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drrockso20 posted:yeah hopefully they'll be able to dig deeper into the Nurgle bestiary cause there's some great goobers there; Bloat drones and Blight haulers are both enemies that showed up in Chaos Gate Daemonhunters and they wouldn't be out of place as a boss in Darktide imo. Nice change of pace of organic blob bosses.
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tokenbrownguy posted:fukkin lmao it's something that they mentioned they'd fix on discord
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tokenbrownguy posted:fukkin lmao It might be something they just didn't get round to implementing for the beta  There is a ancient saying amongst the cognescenti whose ancient wisdom must always be remembered, 'Fatshark gonna Fatshark'
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How is DRG so good yet farshark so bad, i swear they go out of their way some times. What i don't understand is you can't see anything but cosmetics in the lobby so if you wanted a hub to show off your fancy poo poo you're only going to see a tiny selection of the cosmetics they'll have to offer because the majority of it will be weapons. A firing range that wasn't gated behind another loading screen would have been better than seeing abuncha randos standing still because they're trying to communicate with their party that isn't there.
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f o t s h o r k ! ! ! ! ! !
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Look maybe if I preorder this game they'll finally release Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 on Steam
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I think the most disturbing thing noted from this thread is how many people play with inverted controls
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slow_twitch posted:I think the most disturbing thing noted from this thread is how many people play with inverted controls It's pretty safe to say the game is going to have technical issues for a while at and after launch. But, I'll probably still play it since it's on game pass and with how good VT2 ended up. I am pretty confident dark tide will eventually be really solid.
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Phil Spencer, CEO of Video Games, continues to deliver for the value-conscious gamer.
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slow_twitch posted:I think the most disturbing thing noted from this thread is how many people play with inverted controls My brain was irreversibly broken by flight sims as a kid. I can deal with normal look fine but the lack of sensitivity controls sucked. I'm definitely not preordering a fatshark thing, but I was pretty happy with the gameplay in the beta. Really depends on how the rest of the maps, weapons, and itemization/classes are. It's hard not to compare games to DRG but I've kinda had to tell myself that for whatever reason the lower budget, smaller team game is gonna have more QOL features and be one of the only games that does battle passes and cosmetics in general well.
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I didn't realize anyone besides people with massive flight simulator setups use inverted controls.
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I just want to be able to listen to the soundtrack on demand. It slaps so hard
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The beta ran super smooth for me and was super fun so I’m going to preorder it. It’s me I’m the Fatshark-enabling problem.
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