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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


the op of the yospos interviewing thread should have the original questions plus some other advice:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3845966&perpage=40&noseen=1#post480076891

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


here are the questions if anyone is for some reason allergic to clicking that link

quote:

- who do you work with on a daily basis / describe the day to day role

translation : are you working with a well-defined team that puts out consistent work or is this place a clusterfuck with people coming and going on a weekly basis because management is incompetent

- how are decisions made / how will [team] be asked to accomplish things / who makes those decisions

translation: are the people making decisions that impact your work accountable to you / your team and do you have the ability to influence them or are they dictated from on high or even worse forced upon you by a hostile entity

- what are the company's primary values? what characteristics are you looking for in a candidate in relation to those primary values?

translation: if they say 'uhhhhhhhhhh' here it's a red flag. if they throw gibberish at you it's not a red flag but it's not a good look either. this should get a human bean answer

- what would be expected of me for the first / three / six months? What will success look like in this position, how will it be measured?

translation: same as the last one.

- what sort of training/mentoring/career dev things are here

translation: they should also be able to answer this without thinking. if they hesitate or bullshit you it's a red flag

- what's the most impressive thing you've seen out of someone else you've interviewed recently

translation: what qualities are people here impressed with. what caliber of candidates are you also considering.

- What do you see as the most challenging aspect of this job?

translation: every job has some bullshit aspect to it. this is their chance to lay it on softly and your chance to decide if it's a particular brand of bullshit you can put up with

- how do you set milestones/deliverables for projects and how does your team react when it's clear they won't be met

translation: are you going to work me like a slave when we don't hit the deadline we never agreed to

- when was the last time you took pto / how much did you take / what did you do

translation: without fail lovely interviewers for lovely companies will try to deflect this one. if they try to say 'oh no don't worry about that' or respond with their actual pto policy just reiterate that they didn't answer your question. when was the last time YOU took pto

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Here is my absolute dump of questions I've pulled from various sources.

quote:

What's the company's biggest threat to success this year, and how will I be able to help overcome it in this role?
Are there any projects that are in the pipeline that I would be working on right away?
What would be expected of me for the first / three / six months? What will success look like in this position, how will it be measured?
Would I be working as part of a team, and what does the team currently look like?
What sort of training/mentoring/career dev things are here?
What do you see as the most challenging aspect of this job?
How is the infrastructure now? Datacenter? Cloud? Backups? Security?
Who do you work with on a daily basis / describe the day to day role?

What are the company's primary values? what characteristics are you looking for in a candidate in relation to those primary values?
Based on what we've talked about now is there anything you feel I could address in regards to the position?

What's the most impressive thing you've seen out of someone else you've interviewed recently?

How do you set milestones/deliverables for projects and how does your team react when it's clear they won't be met?

When was the last time you took pto / how much did you take / what did you do?
Is there travel to other sites or is that based on the help desk? How often generally?
Why did last guy leave?
How do compensate for incidents outside of normal working hours?
Do you have an on-call rotation?
Do you have a WFH policy?
What is your vacation policy?
If I had to handle a ticket while on PTO, what is your policy to compensate for that?
When was your last tech refresh?
What is the oldest server in production, and what is its role?
How are decisions made / how will [team] be asked to accomplish things / who makes those decisions?

Vendor Management

How is relationship management integrated into your team's operations?
What's your process?
Do you have monthly sync-up calls\communication?
What happens in an emergency\problems arise?
How are issues addressed?
What are the pain points people are suffering?
Who puts together agenda items?

Managerial

What are the company's primary values? what characteristics are you looking for in a candidate in relation to those primary values?
What's your definition of an awesome manager?
What's the most impressive thing you've seen out of someone else you've interviewed recently?
How do you define success?
How would you describe the work environment here—is the work typically collaborative or more independent?
What does failure\mistakes look like in the company? Miss a goal, miss a deadline, miss daily metrics.
What criteria did your last company use to reward employees?
Can you give me an example of how I would collaborate with my manager?


Day to day\Informational

How would your direct reports describe your management style?
When was the last time you took pto / how much did you take / what did you do?
Do you have an on-call rotation?
Do you have a WFH policy?
Role as Service Manager what percentage of technical?


Is there anything I've said that makes you doubt I would be a great fit for this position?

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Awesome thanks everyone.

I will have some horrifying security stories to tell from this place if I do end up leaving.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I've never just copy-pasted a quote from teams in here but you can't improve on perfection

quote:

The pipeline is driven from a spreadsheet which the security team can validate

:suicide:

Edit: This is permissions management on the sensitive containerized information system for a :checks notes: 11-figure-revenue company in a heavily regulated industry.

KillHour fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Oct 17, 2022

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


quote:

- when was the last time you took pto / how much did you take / what did you do

I chuckled at this one because I would look like an idiot trying to remember exactly when it was. Not because I never take PTO but because I take it often enough that it's not particularly memorable and "what I did" is usually "played video games for a week."

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





KillHour posted:

I've never just copy-pasted a quote from teams in here but you can't improve on perfection

:suicide:

Edit: This is permissions management on the sensitive containerized information system for a :checks notes: 11-figure-revenue company in a heavily regulated industry.

Amazing. No notes.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





https://twitter.com/TrackInflation/status/1582037239718383616?s=20&t=4dzgPcaml-QoLXzyrbrWMA

lol

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

If someone asked whats the biggest threat to the company mission and I said world peace would that be a good or bad answer? I work in the military industrial complex.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I mean, I guess that depends on how likely you think world peace is.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Defenestrategy posted:

If someone asked whats the biggest threat to the company mission and I said world peace would that be a good or bad answer? I work in the military industrial complex.

How else are you gonna achieve world peace except by MAD? Sounds like business is going to go up Up UP

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


KillHour posted:

I chuckled at this one because I would look like an idiot trying to remember exactly when it was. Not because I never take PTO but because I take it often enough that it's not particularly memorable and "what I did" is usually "played video games for a week."

That's kind of a great answer, though, because it tells the applicant people feel free to take their PTO for any reason and none. Beats hell out of "it was 14 months ago for my 3-day honeymoon to Hawaii."

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!



This was deleted but basically, parler cc'd every user on their platform rather than bcc. Basically they doxxed every single on of their users.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I think it was later corrected that it was just verified users, blue checkmarks essentially, but still lol

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

nesaM killed Masen

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

nesaM killed Masen
I'm back at work after being off a couple weeks for surgery and some of these devs I swear to god they can't tie their loving shoes without me

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


CLAM DOWN posted:

I'm back at work after being off a couple weeks for surgery and some of these devs I swear to god they can't tie their loving shoes without me

Why did you kill kuato?

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
i took monday off and I'm already dreading tomorrow. gently caress i wish resumes weren't so hard

i've got gold-ish handcuffs, since my healthcare is $30/mo (in america, you canadian swine) and I'm getting paid on the high end for baby's first helpdesk job.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

nesaM killed Masen

tokin opposition posted:

(in america, you canadian swine)

:mrgw:

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
get me citizenship and i will forgive you for loving up cheese fries with onions

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

nesaM killed Masen

tokin opposition posted:

get me citizenship and i will forgive you for loving up cheese fries with onions

mods??!??!?!?!!

sixth and maimed
Mar 20, 2012

Fun Shoe

<laughs in Belgian socialist healthcare>

App13
Dec 31, 2011

What’s the IT sector like in Canada compared to the states? I live and work in New England right now, but I’m a Canadian citizen and always viewed that as a backup plan

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

How much of a grind in general is consulting? Latest offer came in, its a significant pay raise for me, but Im a bit worried about work/life balance.

I asked all the usual questions about work/life balance, on-call, PTO, etc, and got all good answers back. But I am a bit worried that there may be some split between the sales half of the house and the technical side. Like the sales guys are all out drinking at the country club and the tech people are fine to work 40 hours a week if they know their poo poo inside and out and can bend over backwards to get stuff working for the customers. I may be speculating far to much there, I have no indications that the company is like that, but I've never worked for a consulting company before so I have no clue.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

BaseballPCHiker posted:

How much of a grind in general is consulting? Latest offer came in, its a significant pay raise for me, but Im a bit worried about work/life balance.

I asked all the usual questions about work/life balance, on-call, PTO, etc, and got all good answers back. But I am a bit worried that there may be some split between the sales half of the house and the technical side. Like the sales guys are all out drinking at the country club and the tech people are fine to work 40 hours a week if they know their poo poo inside and out and can bend over backwards to get stuff working for the customers. I may be speculating far to much there, I have no indications that the company is like that, but I've never worked for a consulting company before so I have no clue.

Once you get past the ambiguity and understand how to make clients happy, IME it’s easy street. Biggest danger is working for body shops that boot people after a month on the bench or just body shops in general (places that just do staff aug and would put everyone on a 1099 if they could find enough people to do it).

I always ask companies solutions they’re offering, how they structure contracts, size of clients, and how they approach project management these days. Those are the biggest things that can tell you what the day to day is really like.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Thanks for the insight.

Its a smaller company. I'd be their 40th employee, and turnover has seemed to be low, but they've only been around 6 years. Clients seem to mostly be smaller companies overall. My role would be to assist them in migrating to the cloud securely and tailoring recommendations and solutions to help the business with that.

I will definitely ask about how they handle project management when I have the chance later today.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


"Consulting" is a massive category because it just means "working on behalf of a third party." Even if your company is good, your customers might be poo poo. Some customers might have your company do the project management and some might demand to do it themselves. Some customers might value your time and be very careful about when they engage and some might send you "emergency" emails at midnight demanding something by morning. The most important thing is to have management that has your back and will come in and be the "bad guy" for you when it comes to anything that you shouldn't handle politically. Good examples of that are when the customer has pointed questions about money or what other people have promised them. As a consultant the customer needs to be able to trust you, which means you have to be the good cop and always be "on their side," even if that means dragging your boss in to be the bad cop. I would specifically ask about times where customers had unreasonable demands and how they were handled.

Honey Im Homme
Sep 3, 2009

App13 posted:

What’s the IT sector like in Canada compared to the states? I live and work in New England right now, but I’m a Canadian citizen and always viewed that as a backup plan

There's work but the salaries are gonna be lower than the US, generally.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

App13 posted:

What’s the IT sector like in Canada compared to the states? I live and work in New England right now, but I’m a Canadian citizen and always viewed that as a backup plan

I’ve never come close to wanting for work yet. Lots of jobs especially if you’re in a big tech hub (Toronto, Vancouver), and plenty of American firms with American salaries playing in the space too. Salaries are lower but mostly at the top end IME. You’re not going to find a lot of >200k TC jobs without going to the top tier tech companies or some particularly well funded startups though, but past a certain point it’s all just keeping score.


Also minimal gun violence. Minimal gun violence is huge!

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

The Iron Rose posted:

Also minimal gun violence. Minimal gun violence is huge!

One could almost say priceless? :downsrim:

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

KillHour posted:

I would specifically ask about times where customers had unreasonable demands and how they were handled.

I would not trust any consulting company’s response to this fwiw

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

nesaM killed Masen

The Iron Rose posted:

I’ve never come close to wanting for work yet. Lots of jobs especially if you’re in a big tech hub (Toronto, Vancouver), and plenty of American firms with American salaries playing in the space too. Salaries are lower but mostly at the top end IME. You’re not going to find a lot of >200k TC jobs without going to the top tier tech companies or some particularly well funded startups though, but past a certain point it’s all just keeping score.


Also minimal gun violence. Minimal gun violence is huge!

Basically this. Depends heavily where you are, you will want to be in Vancouver or Toronto for the good jobs. Yes salaries are lower than the US, but you're not paying for healthcare nor are you going to die in a mass shooting. Lots of solid public sector options if you have your citizenship too.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

i am a moron posted:

I would not trust any consulting company’s response to this fwiw

Both things can be true and often are.

Crossposting this from the security thread, but as of today I have two different conversations about this Uber CISO conviction and I have to say, this poo poo is loving wild and I am not seeing enough news about it.

As brazen as this guy was, the things he did are loving common. To say the rest of the officers of the company didn't know is laughable. While a CISO has a self serving obligation to hide poo poo for their own ego and marketability, there is ZERO loving chance that he acted alone in any of this.

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Sickening posted:

Both things can be true and often are.

Crossposting this from the security thread, but as of today I have two different conversations about this Uber CISO conviction and I have to say, this poo poo is loving wild and I am not seeing enough news about it.

As brazen as this guy was, the things he did are loving common. To say the rest of the officers of the company didn't know is laughable. While a CISO has a self serving obligation to hide poo poo for their own ego and marketability, there is ZERO loving chance that he acted alone in any of this.

First I'm hearing of the Uber CISO thing today, link?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Is someone trying to claim that a $100k payment was made by the guy acting alone?

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


Is this something new, or the case that was decided a week or two ago?

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

rafikki posted:

Is this something new, or the case that was decided a week or two ago?

It was from the case a few weeks ago.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewhayeurope/2022/10/06/uber-decision-implications-for-virtual-cisos/?sh=4a6977531748

Thanks Ants posted:

Is someone trying to claim that a $100k payment was made by the guy acting alone?

Exactly.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Sickening posted:

"The evidence showed that, despite knowing in great detail that Uber had suffered another data breach directly responsive to the FTC’s inquiry, Sullivan continued to work with the Uber lawyers handling or overseeing that inquiry, including the General Counsel of Uber, and never mentioned the incident to them. Instead, he touted the work that he and his team had done on data security. Uber ultimately entered into a preliminary settlement with the FTC in summer 2016, supported fully by Sullivan, without disclosing the 2016 data breach to the FTC."

While its possible, I am finding it incredibly unlikely that this much work was being done and no other leadership but him knew it was happening. I would take a wild guess that in person meetings and phone calls surged during these times and emails and other messaging dropped, if you get my meaning.

And when I say work being done, i mean this.

Sickening posted:

The evidence demonstrated that, shortly after learning the extent of the 2016 breach and rather than reporting it to the FTC, any other authorities, or Uber’s users, Sullivan executed a scheme to prevent any knowledge of the breach from reaching the FTC. For example, Sullivan told a subordinate that they “can’t let this get out,” instructed them that the information needed to be “tightly controlled,” and that the story outside of the security group was to be that “this investigation does not exist.” Sullivan then arranged to pay off the hackers in exchange for them signing non-disclosure agreements in which the hackers promised not to reveal the hack to anyone, and also contained the false representation that the hackers did not take or store any data in their hack. Uber paid the hackers $100,000 in bitcoin in December 2016, despite the fact that the hackers had refused to provide their true names. Uber was ultimately able to identify the two hackers in January of 2017 and required them to execute new copies of the non-disclosure agreements in their true names and emphasized that they were not allowed to talk about the hack to anyone else. Sullivan orchestrated these acts despite knowing that the hackers were hacking and extorting other companies as well as Uber, and that the hackers had obtained data from at least some of those other companies.

doesn't pass the smell test for anyone else that works in companies with these types of situation.

Sickening fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Oct 18, 2022

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Thanks Ants posted:

Is someone trying to claim that a $100k payment was made by the guy acting alone?

Not quite.

It gets a bit complex, here is a decent NYT article although it will be paywalled, NYT is my fav outlet: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/technology/uber-security-chief-joe-sullivan-verdict.html?searchResultPosition=1

The New York Times posted:

Mr. Sullivan said he would discuss the breach with Uber’s “A Team” of top executives, according to Mr. Clark’s testimony. He shared the matter with only one member of the A Team: the chief executive at the time, Travis Kalanick. Mr. Kalanick approved the $100,000 payment to the hackers, according to court documents.

Lawyers for Mr. Sullivan argued that he had merely been doing his job.

They argued that Mr. Sullivan and others had used the bug bounty program and the nondisclosure agreement to prevent user data from being leaked — and to identify the hackers — and that Mr. Sullivan had not concealed the incident from the F.T.C.

I don't know all the ins and outs but it does seem like this sort of conduct would not be unusual for security leaders, and he did gets his actions signed off by the CEO Kalanick, but unfortunately for Mr. Sullivan it appears that sign-off did not obviate his criminal liability in this case. (IANAL)

Inner Light fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Oct 18, 2022

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BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

My poo poo company literally had a huge incident a few weeks ago that they refuse to call an incident because the product was so loving destroyed there were no logs to even show lateral movement, data exfiltration, etc. So with full sign off from the CISO and legal they said there was no evidence of any of the above, because the attacker literally destroyed the evidence on their way out.

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