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not looking forward to kakko vs hughes being reignited although tbh Jack has been good, just hasn't finished
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Oct 18, 2022 17:03
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T-Bone posted:apparently Eric is still on a PTO for them too and they're going to try and sign him at some point?  Christ you're right... * checks capfriendly * ... I'm no cap expert but I don't think they can sign him for
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Oct 18, 2022 17:04
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The Dirty Burger posted:It’s hilarious to me that Florida went all-in this year, don’t have a first rounder for like 4 years and their second pairing has Marc loving Staal on it I thought Staal retired years ago 
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Oct 18, 2022 17:07
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No he just went to Detroit, that's why you haven't seen him on TV the last 2 years.
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Oct 18, 2022 17:11
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Oct 18, 2022 17:16
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T-Bone posted:not looking forward to kakko vs hughes being reignited I swear Kakko setup a scoring chance every time he touched the puck in the offensive zone last night. Just slinging passes right and left. Hughes will always get more points at this time though since he plays on the first power play I assume. But honestly whatever, I just want Kakko to do well and less concerned about comparing them. Ginette Reno posted:Staal had a skill set? Once upon a time (if you also remember the kind of league it was when he was drafted) he was a quite good defensive defenseman. He was the kind of player that could shut things down in the neutral zone/zone entries, and he was great at making small plays in his own zone with the puck to facilitate a breakout or reverse the flow of things...never was going to be a great offensive player but some of his defensive strengths were the stuff we still look for these days. But the bad concussion he got and then the eye injury really took away a lot of his game and he ended up more of the "block shots and don't get too wildly out of position in your own end even though you can't break the puck out" type defensive defenseman
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Oct 18, 2022 17:30
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I think for Staal and other guys like him the pace of the game and the style teams play also changed quite a bit during his career, for sure he got less effective over time but in a league where guys are faster and D are expected to jump up more often guys with slower footspeed just got phased out. A lot of defensive defenders from that era went from effective to replacement in a few years even during their prime.
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Oct 18, 2022 17:35
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Koopa Kid posted:I think for Staal and other guys like him the pace of the game and the style teams play also changed quite a bit during his career, for sure he got less effective over time but in a league where guys are faster and D are expected to jump up more often guys with slower footspeed just got phased out. A lot of defensive defenders from that era went from effective to replacement in a few years even during their prime. also known as the Dan McGillis effect
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Oct 18, 2022 17:38
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Perusing some rookies for fantasy poo poo and saw that Wright has 4 games with a total of 12 mins (2 games in the press box). Seems like a good and smart way to delpoy a highly tired prospect. Lol
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Oct 18, 2022 17:46
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You know who should be panicking after three games is the Wild. Their defense and goaltending do not defend or tend the goal very well.
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Oct 18, 2022 17:49
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Aphrodite posted:Ekblad injured himself so Staal might be first pair now. christ, already?
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Oct 18, 2022 17:55
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It’s very funny to me that both of Mike Babcock’s hires for defensive assistant coach got poached to be head coaches (you really want the architects of those defences to shape your team?) and that they both suck poo poo I mean obviously Hakstol had already been a HC but that makes it even funnier
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Oct 18, 2022 17:56
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Simplex posted:You know who should be panicking after three games is the Wild. Their defense and goaltending do not defend or tend the goal very well. yeah I mean, their defense hasn't been good but Fleury looks absolutely lost Considering he wasn't great last year either, going into a season where you want to try to be a contender but are running him as your #1 seems like it was a bad decision
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Oct 18, 2022 17:57
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Aye Doc posted:christ, already? Left in the 2nd last night and did not return. This left the Panthers with 4 defensemen 'cause they only rostered 5 on the evening. 'Maurice didn't provide details other than it is a lower body injury and Ekblad will be evaluated Wednesday'
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Oct 18, 2022 17:59
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T-Bone posted:not looking forward to kakko vs hughes being reignited I've been disappointed in Hughes so far this year. I was hoping that he would start to turn into an elite player who carries the team rather than just a nice player and he's been the later this year. Bratt has been much better. It's only 2 games though.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:02
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Tampa is starting what are essentially two rookies on right defense: Hedman - cernak Serge - perbix Cole(ew) - Foote Help I paid for espn so I could watch this game. Help.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:02
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Aphrodite posted:perbix Yeah. It’s why Ian cole signed with the lightning
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Koopa Kid posted:It’s very funny to me that both of Mike Babcock’s hires for defensive assistant coach got poached to be head coaches (you really want the architects of those defences to shape your team?) and that they both suck poo poo I feel like Melnyk loved Babcock, they also gave Paul Maclean a HC job from the Detroit days. The locker room loves DJ Smith and he was a great motivator for a team that was rebuilding, but it’s sad watching a much more skilled roster still hanging on for dear life in the defensive zone, finally getting the puck out of the zone and dumping it in deep for a full line change. How is it possible for a team that prides itself on being “tough to play against” lose so many dump and chases?
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Oct 18, 2022 18:11
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Come on down Connor McM! https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1582419802798575616
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Oct 18, 2022 18:19
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mcmagic posted:I've been disappointed in Hughes so far this year. I was hoping that he would start to turn into an elite player who carries the team rather than just a nice player and he's been the later this year. Bratt has been much better. It's only 2 games though. haven't watched any devils hockey this year but lol at Ruff and the team hating Bratt and propping up higher draft picks
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Oct 18, 2022 18:20
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Chad Sexington posted:Come on down Connor McM! He almost looks concerned after doing it and then he leans down and it looks like he’s gonna ask if he’s ok, but cross-checks him in the back instead lol
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Oct 18, 2022 18:25
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Levitate posted:Once upon a time (if you also remember the kind of league it was when he was drafted) he was a quite good defensive defenseman. He was the kind of player that could shut things down in the neutral zone/zone entries, and he was great at making small plays in his own zone with the puck to facilitate a breakout or reverse the flow of things...never was going to be a great offensive player but some of his defensive strengths were the stuff we still look for these days. Yup all of this. Staal at his peak was a very good shutdown defenseman in an different era. He had good instincts, solid stick checker, had a decent first pass out of the zone, and was big enough to play against physical players when that was more common. As he got older and the injuries piled up he lost a step on his reflexes and the aging curve isn’t generous to 6’4” players that play massive, tough, minutes for hundreds of games. He has zero offensive skills to fall back on- the amount of times I had to hear Sam Rosen say “Staal shoots that one wide” was countless. If he stayed healthy and the game was a touch slower than it is today he might still be able to carve out a specific role with the right partner but there is no chance at this point.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:31
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Staal plays an important role, which is getting embarrassed by world class talents like Pastrnak on a regular basis so ESPN can put it on their highlight reel and grow the popularity of the sport.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:41
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Levitate posted:haven't watched any devils hockey this year but lol at Ruff and the team hating Bratt and propping up higher draft picks Eh propping up Hughes is not the right way of putting it, Hughes has earned his ice time, but so has Bratt, they should both be playing a ton. They're clearly the two best forwards on the team (well offensively at least, there's an argument to be made that a healthy Hischier is up there when you factor in defense).
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Oct 18, 2022 18:49
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The Dirty Burger posted:The locker room loves DJ Smith and he was a great motivator for a team that was rebuilding, but it’s sad watching a much more skilled roster still hanging on for dear life in the defensive zone, finally getting the puck out of the zone and dumping it in deep for a full line change. How is it possible for a team that prides itself on being “tough to play against” lose so many dump and chases? Winning pucks off of races and board battles is a real skill and lots of Good Players are both pretty bad at it and not all that interested in beating up their bodies for 50/50 pucks twice a shift. It's probably the reason why the Leafs offence under Babcock looked worse the better the team got, demanding Marner and Nylander to play chip and chase at 20 years old was both wasting their talents and also literally handing possession to the other team intentionally.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:49
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Levitate posted:haven't watched any devils hockey this year but lol at Ruff and the team hating Bratt and propping up higher draft picks Hughes isn't being propped up. He needs to play a lot. That shouldn't take away from Bratt though they play different positions.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:51
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Hughes has been pretty terrific in the first two games, he's generated a ton of chances.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:53
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Now Palat, gently caress he has looked bad. I'm sure Gaudreau would have cost us Bratt long term but goddamn
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Oct 18, 2022 19:00
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T-Bone posted:Now Palat, gently caress he has looked bad. regular season palat is..uhhhh, not good. you sign him for the playoffs. like a john madden or a justin williams. you are going to the playoffs, right? ...right?
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Oct 18, 2022 19:10
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T-Bone posted:Now Palat, gently caress he has looked bad. Going hard after Johnny and Tkachuk and getting Palat who looks HORRIBLE is distilled last 10 years Devils.
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Oct 18, 2022 19:11
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Palat was such an obvious “gotta sign someone” situation.
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Oct 18, 2022 19:20
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Simplex posted:You know who should be panicking after three games is the Wild. Their defense and goaltending do not defend or tend the goal very well. i think they're still going to be fine. their defense hasn't been atrocious and will tighten up. their goaltending has been atrocious. Gustavsson was even worse/more cursed than Fleury last night. he let in: -weird rear end tip https://www.nhl.com/video/meyers-tips-in-opening-goal/t-335386016/c-13204433 -an unbelievably soft backhand goal https://www.nhl.com/video/girard-scores-goal/t-335386016/c-13204914 -a Tommy Salo special https://www.nhl.com/video/rantanen-regains-the-lead/t-335386016/c-13206407 -another weird rear end tip https://www.nhl.com/video/mackinnon-scores-ppg/t-335386016/c-13208117 they still have a core top 4 forwards of Kaprizov-Zuke and Eriksson Ek-Boldy. Boldy in particular looks really good. I think they'll be okay as long as Fleury/Gus get back to "basically competent/bad" instead of "loving hell". having said that, losing 3 games with that goaltending can really sap a team and get them playing bad otherwise and cause a bad streak. they looked so deflated after a couple of those goals after playing pretty well against the defending champs.
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Oct 18, 2022 19:23
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The Panthers went all-in last year when making the Giroux trade. The trade for Tkachuk was to try and align all the superstars on the team around the same age since Huberdeau and Weegar are 29 while everyone left is between 23-25. In theory, they're trying to set up for the following next few years and punting on this year while they try and figure out what to do about Bobrovsky and their other big out-of-place contracts like Hornquist which is why their defense corps might be the worst in the league with Ekblad, and definitely worst in the league without him. I am in no way condoning this plan, simply explaining that is what GM Bill Zito is trying to do. I'd much rather they have tried to win the cup again this year instead of this since they have no picks left, but whatever.
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Oct 18, 2022 19:26
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I doubt Palat completely falls off a cliff, he should be a fine complimentary top-middle six dude for another 2-3 years before the contract really looks lovely but he's gotta get it going Marino has looked good though: https://twitter.com/InfernalAccess/status/1582045189899964417 T-Bone fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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Oct 18, 2022 19:29
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They also badly need somebody on the team who has won anything at all. Palat is fine, I think the problem is using as their first line left winger. Palat should be on the third line and the top six should have actual scoring talent on it in his place. Maybe? Devils badly need one more top six winger to fill Hughes' left wing spot, and then you can have Good player-Hughes-Holtz Sharangovich-Hischier-Bratt Palat-Mercer-Tatar (off wing?) Wood-Haula-Bastian That looks better
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Oct 18, 2022 19:41
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T-Bone posted:I doubt Palat completely falls off a cliff, he should be a fine complimentary top-middle six dude for another 2-3 years before the contract really looks lovely but he's gotta get it going Glad he's working out, he seemed like a good guy. Just didn't fit Sullivan's system at all
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Oct 18, 2022 19:53
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mcmagic posted:Hughes isn't being propped up. He needs to play a lot. That shouldn't take away from Bratt though they play different positions. I guess I don't mean propped up as in "he sucks but they're force feeding him minutes!" but more a reflection that the franchise seems to be more critical of Bratt than of Hughes and I speculate it's because Bratt is a 6th round pick rather than the highly prized 1st overall Not that Hughes should be in the doghouse but that by being 1st overall the franchise and coach seem to be viewing him as more valuable/better player by default versus the guy who's also extremely good but they're being hardasses about.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:i think they're still going to be fine. their defense hasn't been atrocious https://www.nhl.com/video/kakko-slips-in-a-sweet-goal/t-335366110/c-13133029
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