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Egg Moron posted:Do people ever refer to people doing mandatory service in western and western adjacent armies like the German military or the IDF as conscripts? yes. service obligation, mandatory service, or whatever permutation of that usually gets used when it makes sense to use whatever the official term is or when it might also be served in some non-military capacity. i really haven't heard them used euphemistically and I also felt like conscription was about as neutral in most uses. i don't think there had been a push for something like "only russia does conscription - they didn't have normal socks until this decade!". that'll probably happen now though so I'd expect to eventually get scolded for saying israel or germany has mandatory conscription at some point in the future.
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germany abolished conscription like a decade ago didn't they?
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lobster shirt posted:germany abolished conscription like a decade ago didn't they? Most of the Euros did, there was a big Economist article about it at the time.
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every finnish male still has to sacrifice 6 months of their precious masturbation age for wanking in a tent with a a bunch of equally miserable teenagers, or changing diapers for old people. if they're not smart enough to pretend to have a debilitating irritable bowel syndrome. cant wait to see those proud dilweeds march off to arabia
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lollontee posted:every finnish male still has to sacrifice 6 months of their precious masturbation age for wanking in a tent with a a bunch of equally miserable teenagers, or changing diapers for old people. if they're not smart enough to pretend to have a debilitating irritable bowel syndrome. cant wait to see those proud dilweeds march off to arabia Do they not have women in the army there?
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Frosted Flake posted:Do they not have women in the army there? volunteer only
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mind you, i find no reason it shouldn't be universal service for all citizens, but then again i am a commun ist
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lollontee posted:mind you, i find no reason it shouldn't be universal service for all citizens, but then again i am a commun ist *Nods Leninishly* “hmm. Everyone should have to join the bourgeois armies of NATO. I think I hear the people of Iran crying out for freedom.”
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:*Nods Leninishly* “hmm. Everyone should have to join the bourgeois armies of NATO. I think I hear the people of Iran crying out for freedom.” please don't remind me of the fact, i'm trying to live in a furry fantasy world
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1580539920892190720 implying it will have the capability to go york in the first place is lol
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1580539920892190720 more likely this will happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFvqDaFpXeM&t=126s
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1580539920892190720 this is how prometheus and the cybrids were created. do not!! do this!!!
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lobster shirt posted:this is how prometheus and the cybrids were created. do not!! do this!!! im picturing biden as the immortal emperor of earth and humanity and loling
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no special point. I just think this photo is amazing. also manpads apparently work..? https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1582099780431278080?s=46&t=S_pTvCtc7Sa-F4YRkET8Lw
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Proust Malone posted:no special point. I just think this photo is amazing. also manpads apparently work..? manpads work, especially as part of an integrated defense. their success rate in this war is unknown but everyone with a modern army is going to be extremely interested in analyzing their use in this war. they shouldn't be a threat to a jet that's actually in the air with energy unless other parts of air defense have made it fly in a more vulnerable way. i would bet that very few jet kills in this are actually made with a manpads. this apparently happened after takeoff and yeysk does not seem like it is remotely close enough to any of ukraine's front lines for manpads to have had an impact here. it sounds like one of the engines failed on takeoff and the plane did not have enough energy to change course at all before impact. if you lose thrust on takeoff with a full load, you cannot control the jet at all so 'riding it down' to avoid a building is impossible. considering the position of that parachute to the building, that pilot probably ejected at the last possible second. also i'm not sure but I kind of remember hearing about some russian jets having an automatic eject system? could be misremembering war sucks
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Proust Malone posted:no special point. I just think this photo is amazing. also manpads apparently work..? i do not think any manpads exist that can shoot down an airplane as far away from ukraine, or ukrainian-held territory, as yeysk is
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lobster shirt posted:i do not think any manpads exist that can shoot down an airplane as far away from ukraine, or ukrainian-held territory, as yeysk is dumb fire yeeted at a 45 degree angle from a guy strapped to the wing of an opposing jet. that might be mathematically possible.
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Cuttlefush posted:dumb fire yeeted at a 45 degree angle from a guy strapped to the wing of an opposing jet. that might be mathematically possible. Wow, rude way to refer to Silent
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They already mount arrays of MANPADs on helicopters, I'm sure they could make a smaller version that shoots from a drone too. That would suck to have little drones with stingers zooming around your airspace.
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I don't think there was ever really a question that MANPADs as a weapon would work
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sullat posted:Wow, rude way to refer to Silent "I'm quiet, but I'm not that Quiet." - Silent  also that cutscene kicks fuckin rear end through despite being absurd and offputting
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gradenko_2000 posted:I don't think there was ever really a question that MANPADs as a weapon would work This toxic masculinity infused branding has gone too far. What next, BROTAMPONS?
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DUDEDOUCHE MANISTAT 7
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Pryor on Fire posted:The Royal Air Force appears to have contracted away most of their ability to train pilots Free market at work https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1582269487860314112
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Pryor on Fire posted:Free market at work amazing how much things can change from 1997 to 2022
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Pryor on Fire posted:Free market at work lol
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classic blunder, literally the number one thing you actually have to do as a capitalist government is make sure your violence makers get paid inevitable consequence if you refuse to set up sinecures for your specialist murderers
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atelier morgan posted:classic blunder, literally the number one thing you actually have to do as a capitalist government is make sure your violence makers get paid Some apocalyptic writer who is doing the podcast rounds right now was apparently asked by some billionaires how to keep their mercenary armies from revolting after the apocalypse - perhaps some sort of implant with a deadman switch?
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evilpicard posted:Some apocalyptic writer who is doing the podcast rounds right now was apparently asked by some billionaires how to keep their mercenary armies from revolting after the apocalypse - perhaps some sort of implant with a deadman switch? we just gonna hook up the guy that made the switch
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evilpicard posted:Some apocalyptic writer who is doing the podcast rounds right now was apparently asked by some billionaires how to keep their mercenary armies from revolting after the apocalypse - perhaps some sort of implant with a deadman switch? Very good opportunity to suggest something dumb in jest.
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If they had the ability to protect themselves from their security forces they don't need security forces in the first place. dumb rich people, your power comes from society when it ends so does your power
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It’s been explained in more detail but their brains are so rotted out by capitalism that they don’t know feudalism was a social arrangement of personal loyalty, that operated without cash. Imagine Bezos or Zuck commanding respect through their honour and valour, it just doesn’t work.
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The suggestion of "be nice to them before the apocalypse" was apparently not received well
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It's funny that you bring up being nice, because in a primitive society being "good" is what determines your ability to lead. Let's say it really is an apocalypse and takes them past Medieval Europe back to one of the first civilizations comprised of armed men, the Mycenaeans. Homeric man lived in a society of virtually autonomous small social units called oikoi, noble households each under the headship of a local chieftain, denoted and commended by the term agathos. The most powerful words to commend an individual in Homeric Greek are the adjectives agathos and esthlos, with the abstract noun arete. In other words, the words for "Good" and "Chieftain who performs his social function well " were the same. “To be agathos,” says W. H. Adkins, “one must be brave, skilful and successful in war and in peace; and one must possess the wealth and (in peace) the leisure which are at once the necessary conditions for the development of these skills and the natural reward of their successful employment.” In a society without cash, this was the only thing keeping them at the head of their war band. Agathos and esthlos in Homer denote and commend men who are effective and successful fighters, whether formally at war or defending their oikos in what passes for peace in such a society. The words also commend men who are prosperous and of high birth. There is no question of separate 'meanings'. Agathos and esthlos denote and commend all these qualities together because the needs of the oikos demand that all are united in certain individuals. The group —oikos in peace, contingent following its local agathos in war needs for its continued survival to be defended as efficiently as possible. Efficient defence requires the best available armour and weapons. These must be supplied by the individual himself, so that the most effectively armed individual must be wealthy. The Homeric poems portray a moneyless economy, in which wealth consists of land and its products, houses, goods and chattels. The land is in the hands of a restricted number of large landowners, and passes by inheritance. Those who are able effectively to defend the group, accordingly, must unite in themselves courage, strength, wealth and high birth; and since these are the qualities of which society holds itself to be most in need, they are denoted and commended by agathos, esthlos and arete. What I'm saying is, our society is not headed by true agathoi, and should society crumble and people become free to carry off their cattle and burn their homes, the men that succeed in doing so will be the ones who inspire the loyalty of their hired security detail. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 13:46 on Oct 19, 2022 |
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