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MikeCrotch posted:What are people's win rates in DMU draft btw? Currently around 58% but only managed like 12 drafts due to moving house, trying to cram some more in now I have no idea, I don't keep track of these things. But, I've had 2 trophies and a couple 6-3 runs, and only one real blowout. I've probably done about the same number of drafts as you or thereabouts. Definitely feels like DMU has been one of my more successful formats since I started with STX
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MikeCrotch posted:What are people's win rates in DMU draft btw? Currently around 58% but only managed like 12 drafts due to moving house, trying to cram some more in now I might eb mission one more in which case it's almost certainly negative.
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MikeCrotch posted:What are people's win rates in DMU draft btw? Currently around 58% but only managed like 12 drafts due to moving house, trying to cram some more in now I had an absolutely brutal go of things this time around. Game Record: 157 - 119 (56.9%) Match Record: 86 - 56 (60.6%) Total Events: 38 (6 Trophies) Net gems per event: 102.89 Basically, I paid 6k gems for nearly the entire set of rares/mythics. This is the worst set performance that I've had since I started serious drafting in Kaldheim. Most sets I'm in the 500+ net gems per event. On the other hand, this set had the most events I've ever done, which means that the game play was very good.
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Oct 18, 2022 15:37
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Legit Businessman posted:I had an absolutely brutal go of things this time around.
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Simply Simon posted:i really feel for u Well, I mean it's somewhat concerning to have a swing of -15000 gems, performance wise from SNC. I do my part on the discord to help. 
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Legit Businessman posted:Well, I mean it's somewhat concerning to have a swing of -15000 gems, performance wise from SNC. I get that for you, it's a very noticeable downgrade, but it IS a pretty tough format. I wonder if now that I steeled myself in DMU, I can crush the next simpler set that rolls around?
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Oct 18, 2022 16:46
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58% in bo1 which is worse than usual for me, but up about 25k gems ignoring packs thanks to good runs in competitive events. I've only done 1 draft in the past month, just didn't find the format interesting and instead prepped for Standard and Historic to try and qualify for the Arena PT.
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MikeCrotch posted:What are people's win rates in DMU draft btw? Currently around 58% but only managed like 12 drafts due to moving house, trying to cram some more in now 110-96 over 35 events (53.4%) with 5 trophies. Up from SNC's 108-110 over 34 events (51.92%) with 2 trophies
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Oct 18, 2022 17:05
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how do i get my stats, tia
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:how do i get my stats, tia If you have a 17lands account and the app, it will automatically log your drafts to your account. (I guess for win rate the Untapped.gg app would also track that for you, that's what Jim Davis uses) I keep a separate spreadsheet though because sometimes it bugs out for me and misses games
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wei posted:I've only done 1 draft in the past month, just didn't find the format interesting why
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52% so far, compared to 49% for SNC and 52% for NEO. I pretty much always rare draft to try to get to rare completion in as few drafts as possible, should be a couple of percent higher if I drafted optimally, but I'm pretty burnt out by that point most of the time. Like my last 2 SNC drafts had no rare drafting and I went 7-2, 4-3, but that's no where enough data to extrapolate how well I'll "actually" do and I would have to keep on drafting SNC to find out so I just stopped myself right there lol. I'm on my 10th DMU draft and I think proportionally I've drafted boros aggro almost as much as I went for some variation of brokers in SNC. I have yet to successfully manage any base blue or black decks, or a viable domain deck. Did get 2 chaplain decks that went 3-3 and 5-3 though.
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Oct 18, 2022 18:11
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i dont have numbers but just lke every set ever i basically feast on noobs undefeated until like plat and then start losing and go to constructed to preserve my ego and gems
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Oct 18, 2022 18:15
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kalel posted:why probably biased because of my winrate, but there aren't that many different decks and ingame decisions were more impactful in SNC and HBG
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This is the first time I've ever felt overwhelmed by the amount of options available for Limited Magic. I don't know though....I find myself uninterested in Alchemy Dominaria or adjusted SNC - the modified SNC would have been more fun and fitting at the end of its natural set life, now I just have no interest in revisiting it. I've really enjoyed Dom U limited as challenging as it is. I just recently had a draft where I opened with the white Defiler and found myself backed into a Red-White splash Black aggro deck, figuring that I'd probably get run over by the ubiquitous Domain decks and got my first Trophy with an aggro deck. It really is a great format. 40 lbs to freedom posted:i dont have numbers but just lke every set ever i basically feast on noobs undefeated until like plat and then start losing and go to constructed to preserve my ego and gems This is pretty much my experience lmao
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57.1% winrate in DMU. My winrate has been on a slow increase from when I started tracking it in VOW at a pretty bad 48% but this set was a ~5% jump from HBG and SNC. Definitely felt the format jived with me even after not finding it that interesting in spoiler season. Felt easier to get a deck to come together but also easier to completely trainwreck.
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MikeCrotch posted:What are people's win rates in DMU draft btw? Currently around 58% but only managed like 12 drafts due to moving house, trying to cram some more in now 62% in bo1 and 69.7% match win rate in bo3. so pretty good results in bo1, kinda mediocre for bo3 (compared to other sets). i havent really drafted since eating poo poo on day of the 2 open which really deflated my spirits wei posted:probably biased because of my winrate, but there aren't that many different decks and ingame decisions were more impactful in SNC and HBG i felt like i local maximaed myself, as sam black would say, into only playing repossession soup which did get very old after a while kalel posted:an exercise for the reader: without looking ahead, give me your thoughts on the first picks of pack 1 in this draft. this was my first DMU draft since since release week, these picks was really tough and I'm curious if people would arrive at the same choices (at least until pick 7 which turns the draft into an on-rails RW bonanza). terror on pick 2 is the only meaningful difference for me. those were some tough picks to navigate tho, very nicely done
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40 lbs to freedom posted:i dont have numbers but just lke every set ever i basically feast on noobs undefeated until like plat and then start losing and go to constructed to preserve my ego and gems 
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Oct 18, 2022 21:29
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I started the limited season in Silver and got to Diamond 3 before reset... maybe someday Mythic That reminds me, I wonder how Jim Davis is doing in his "Bronze to Worlds" campaign
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I started the limited season in Silver and got to Diamond 3 before reset... maybe someday Mythic
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my draft winrate almost always trends to within a couple of percentage points of 50%, which suggests that I find my level at low platinum - but equally, it suggests that without putting in a lot more money/time, I'm not doing substantially better than a coin flip. My best was... M21, then VOW, both of which scored 50% - though my 17L record is often missing a draft or two given I don't let 17L run on startup and occasionally forget to turn it on. I usually do somewhere between 25 and 50 events, so a LOT clearly depends on whether I'm largely getting 20 or 1 win vs 2 or 3 wins on my bad performances. Which tracks. I'm finding this format very hard to make sure I don't punt, I feel like there's a stronger than usual dichotomy between good grind/control decks and good aggro decks, and I've more often than not been doing the GBU control/recursion shell, but if you don't get a good start and your opponent does, you can easily just get run over with that, and it keeps happening to me. Last time I chose Silverback Elder over Baird P1P1 and I think Baird could have given me more wins based on the deck I might have had, which feels bad in retrospect, because Elder gave me a couple of very good games but I would up missing the early game things I needed and regretting it.
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I’m 77-50 after 19 events, 60.6%, 5 trophies. I’ve enjoyed the format but am probably about tapped out
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:If you have a 17lands account and the app, it will automatically log your drafts to your account. (I guess for win rate the Untapped.gg app would also track that for you, that's what Jim Davis uses) worth noting that they both only track games played on desktop so if like me you tend to draft on desktop and then play the games while youre out and about you wont get useful stats from it, its only good for posting replays of the drafts for review
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Having fun with this goofy grixis deck. 3-1 so far  https://sealeddeck.tech/10qx2tHN3m With like a month to go till the next set I'm usually bored of drafting by now but I'm still at it for some reason
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Platinum rankings seems to exert peculiar gravity on those that attain it. A league for the competent, but unremarkable. For the duelist on a union contract. The People's league. I think it represents the plateau you reach just by reducing your technical mistakes down to the intractable human baseline, and that getting better from there starts being more a matter of deliberate thought than simple practice. But I wouldn't know.
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Platinum is the point where a 40% win rate has you falling to the rank floor instead of slowly but steadily climbing.
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Bronze/silver should be three pips gained, gold/plat should be two, diamond should be one, and mythic is mythic. But they will never do that
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Eikre posted:Platinum rankings seems to exert peculiar gravity on those that attain it. A league for the competent, but unremarkable. For the duelist on a union contract. The People's league. You go up 2 pips for a win at gold and only go down 1 for a loss. With a winrate of greater than 33% you can get to plat as long as you play enough, and really even less than that because you can't go down a sub-tier (ie gold 2 back to gold 3) if your wins come in streaks. To get out of Platinum to Diamond you need a higher win rate since it's 1 pip up, 1 pip down, so there's a huge logjam of players stuck there because they have to win their way out of it. Captain Invictus posted:Bronze/silver should be three pips gained, gold/plat should be two, diamond should be one, and mythic is mythic. But they will never do that At this point you might as well just give everyone a participation trophy lmao
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Oddly satisfying 100-67 over 26 drafts (21 premier bo1, 4 alchemy bo1, 1 quick draft). 6 trophies. 59.8% win rate. Think I lost about 6k gems overall. I have no idea how people are going positive with less than 70% win rate, but my runs were very feast or famine. I had six trophies but there were a lot of poo poo shows with 0, 1, or 2 wins to 3 losses that killed my profits. Oddly, I did the best overall in platinum with only a slight down turn in diamond in the premier drafts. Alchemy drafts burned me badly from a win perspective but I got decent constructed draft chaff from them - that wasn't intentional rare drafting I just picked a really lovely lane each time and ended up with garbage decks. My best success was with sultai good stuff and BW sacrifice.
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Lone Goat posted:At this point you might as well just give everyone a participation trophy lmao it's not like ranked means anything at all, so why not
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The point of ranked is to get people coming back all the time because they like seeing the number go up, it's not actually for any sort of ranking. If they wanted a ranking system they could just show people the raw Elo numbers. Giving people hard incontrovertible proof that they're not actually as good as they think they are would discourage them from grinding out games instead of encouraging them to do it more, it's the opposite of what you want.
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Jabor posted:The point of ranked is to get people coming back all the time because they like seeing the number go up, it's not actually for any sort of ranking. MTGO used to have ELO back in the day and it was as exactly as demoralising as you think lol Well that and if you lost the first round of a draft you just pissed ten bux up the wall
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MikeCrotch posted:MTGO used to have ELO back in the day and it was as exactly as demoralising as you think lol it still has elo that you can see at any time
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Lone Goat posted:At this point you might as well just give everyone a participation trophy lmao They do, at the end of each month. Gold and packs. Also are you 70 years old or something
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Oct 19, 2022 01:05
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Back in my day we only gave out prizes to the people who were truly skilled at online wizard poker.
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Sure, give me more stuff. I don’t play enough to get out of diamond.
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The fact that you get 3 pips of loss protection on rank up in plat and diamond is already too generous, imo.
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Ariong posted:Back in my day we only gave out prizes to the people who were truly skilled at online wizard poker.
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MTGA with triple triad victory rules.
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Lone Goat posted:You go up 2 pips for a win at gold and only go down 1 for a loss. With a winrate of greater than 33% you can get to plat as long as you play enough, and really even less than that because you can't go down a sub-tier (ie gold 2 back to gold 3) if your wins come in streaks. oh lol that makes complete sense, wish I had taken better notice of that initial blitz up the ranks at the start of the season before I opened my mouth.
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