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Oct 19, 2022 02:02
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DontMockMySmock posted:Of all the books I was forced to read in high school, Frankenstein is one of maybe three or so that I thought were genuinely good. Sci fi is the best genre, even among classics from 200 years ago, and it fit right in with all the PKD, Heinlein, etc. I was reading recreationally. I haven't read it since, but given that it held up for 185 years before I got to it the first time, I'm sure it's still good after 204 years. What are the other two?
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hawowanlawow posted:Dracula is very good
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Oct 19, 2022 02:26
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RatHat posted:What are the other two? The other ones that come to mind are Hamlet and The Fellowship of the Ring. I may be forgetting some. There are a few more that I'd classify as "good but dragged down by some really boring parts," like To Kill a Mockingbird for example. fake edit: while typing this post I remembered we also read Ender's Game, but idk whether that counts as a "book I was forced to read in high school" because I had already read it at least 2-3 times lmao.
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Oct 19, 2022 03:40
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Oct 19, 2022 04:04
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DontMockMySmock posted:The other ones that come to mind are Hamlet and The Fellowship of the Ring. I may be forgetting some. There are a few more that I'd classify as "good but dragged down by some really boring parts," like To Kill a Mockingbird for example. Ender's Game is alright but the sequels get real weird real quick
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Oct 19, 2022 05:11
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I debated putting this in the cool buildings thread
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Oct 19, 2022 07:39
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Splicer posted:Yes, and in all seriousness it's a good book if you're looking for a spookmonth read. Eh... I was mostly too irritated with Frankenstein being such a loving dweeb to properly enjoy it. If you want a good horror book for spooktober, I recommend the Stepford Wives.
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Oct 19, 2022 07:49
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The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is actually a pretty great short read. You'll dislike most portrayals of Mr Hyde after, though. Mr Hyde isn't The Hulk But Not Green, he's a creepy dude with bad posture and poor impulse control
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Oct 19, 2022 07:58
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FFT posted:The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is actually a pretty great short read. You'll dislike most portrayals of Mr Hyde after, though. Why would I need to read that? I live it every day.
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Oct 19, 2022 08:00
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FFT posted:The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is actually a pretty great short read. You'll dislike most portrayals of Mr Hyde after, though. 
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Oct 19, 2022 10:10
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Plastik posted:Ender's Game is alright but the sequels get real weird real quick I thought Speaker for the Dead was pretty good, overall; Xenocide and Children of the Mind were not so great, but I didn't regret reading them. What really gets me about the series is that, taken as a whole, the series' main theme, or moral message even, is how we sentient beings should seek to understand and empathize with one another, no matter how great the cultural barriers may be, so that we may cooperate, help one another, and avoid conflict. Applied to the real world, rather than aliens, I would say that the book seems to be arguing for radical tolerance and acceptance, as well as worldwide peace and cooperation. So of course the author is a huge fuckin homophobe, as well as a War on Terror jingoist and Trump voter*. The dissonance is so severe that it hurts to think about. I guess alien space bugs are "ramen" but gay people and Middle Easterners are "varelse"**. *Wikipedia cites an episode of Ben Shapiro's show where Card apparently both claims to support liberal immigration laws, and also says he reluctantly voted for Trump in 2016, a candidate who at that point in time had literally zero policy positions other than "build the wall." wtf. **for those who have not read Speaker for the Dead, in the book "ramen" (derived from a Swedish word) is the term humanity has adopted for aliens for which there is the potential to communicate and find common ground, as opposed to "varelse", aliens so different from humanity that there is no hope of communication or cooperation of any kind, only the prospect of war. The thesis of the series is more succinctly summed up as "there are no varelse, all sentient beings are ramen."
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Oct 19, 2022 10:12
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DontMockMySmock posted:I thought Speaker for the Dead was pretty good, overall; Xenocide and Children of the Mind were not so great, but I didn't regret reading them. The one that stunned me was the author of Altered Carbon, a sci-fi novel series about the commodification of life and unimportance of individual bodies, or even gender, is apparently a TERF.
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Oct 19, 2022 10:32
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FFT posted:The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is actually a pretty great short read. You'll dislike most portrayals of Mr Hyde after, though. It's just this guy: 
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Oct 19, 2022 10:32
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Oct 19, 2022 11:24
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Who you callin' a fg?
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Oct 19, 2022 13:02
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FFT posted:The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is actually a pretty great short read. You'll dislike most portrayals of Mr Hyde after, though. Well it is a little awkward to read nowadays since the entire book is building to a twist ending that everybody knows.
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Oct 19, 2022 13:22
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muscles like this! posted:Well it is a little awkward to read nowadays since the entire book is building to a twist ending that everybody knows.
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Oct 19, 2022 13:33
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Rascar Capac posted:https://twitter.com/TheLisaGilroy/status/1582411051135401991?t=oYZoglwCkIR3i1D5iLmX3Q&s=19 Lmao.
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Oct 19, 2022 13:42
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Oct 19, 2022 13:46
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DontMockMySmock posted:I thought Speaker for the Dead was pretty good, overall; Xenocide and Children of the Mind were not so great, but I didn't regret reading them. If you read anything Card wrote like post 2000 compared to his earlier stuff it's like a completely different person. I think he just got sucked into the conservative internet and lost his mind, but I'm not ruling out massive stroke because he literally forgot how to actually write a narrative.
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Oct 19, 2022 13:49
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Oct 19, 2022 14:06
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teddust posted:If you read anything Card wrote like post 2000 compared to his earlier stuff it's like a completely different person. I think he just got sucked into the conservative internet and lost his mind, but I'm not ruling out massive stroke because he literally forgot how to actually write a narrative. Didn't he also actually come off as if he didn't remember plot elements he wrote in Enders Game?
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Oct 19, 2022 14:14
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Rascar Capac posted:https://twitter.com/TheLisaGilroy/status/1582411051135401991?t=oYZoglwCkIR3i1D5iLmX3Q&s=19 lol, excellent. Got me in the first half, not gonna lie
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Oct 19, 2022 14:14
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teddust posted:If you read anything Card wrote like post 2000 compared to his earlier stuff it's like a completely different person. I think he just got sucked into the conservative internet and lost his mind, but I'm not ruling out massive stroke because he literally forgot how to actually write a narrative. He one of those people for whom 9/11 irretrievably broke their brains into a million lovely pieces?
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Oct 19, 2022 14:41
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Card was never without sin. Enders Game has a long scene about the locker room and he describes these naked children kind of a lot. Also he thought world peace could be achieved by two teens writing passionate arguments on message boards. I don't think Card knows much about humanity.
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Oct 19, 2022 14:53
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teddust posted:If you read anything Card wrote like post 2000 compared to his earlier stuff it's like a completely different person. I think he just got sucked into the conservative internet and lost his mind, but I'm not ruling out massive stroke because he literally forgot how to actually write a narrative.
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Oct 19, 2022 14:58
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Inzombiac posted:Card was never without sin. Ender's Game itself is largely just ego porn for every single wannabe master of the universe with a barely concealed an arrogance/messiah complex. Even as a kid, at my most egotistic, I took one look at this book and went "nah I can masturbate for free." It's like "mediocre white guy entitlement mental gymnastics: a guide and lubricant." Yes the series has some interesting worldbuilding, and it was one of the only sci-fi works of its day to entertain video games seriously as part of the future foundation Millennials would have, and OSC is intelligent/imaginative enough to come up with some very compelling sci-fi ideas, especially when you're young, but overall that series goes in the Harry Potter pile of "I don't judge you if you read it and liked it, but if it was a cornerstone of your youth and it's clear you never really reappraised it while continuing to sing its praises as an adult, then yeah I think you're kind-of a loving paint eater and odds are you're going to treat me like those kids treated Ender in the shower for daring to even say it." And that's before you get into the fact that OSC is a garbage human.
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Oct 19, 2022 15:47
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Oct 19, 2022 15:55
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Orson Scott Card truly started sucking some time between writing the swordfighting insults for Monkey Island (1990) and whatever it was he wrote for Advent Rising (2005)
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Oct 19, 2022 16:24
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FFT posted:Orson Scott Card truly started sucking some time between writing the swordfighting insults for Monkey Island (1990) and whatever it was he wrote for Advent Rising (2005) "Started sucking", because two teenagers influencing global politics via proto-facbook was a masterpiece.
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Oct 19, 2022 16:28
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BaronVonVaderham posted:"Started sucking", because two teenagers influencing global politics via proto-facbook was a masterpiece. (my point is that he peaked with insult swordfighting and his next notable videogame writing contribution sucked) /e: actually The Dig (1995) was good and he wrote dialogue for it apparently stringless has a new favorite as of 16:35 on Oct 19, 2022 |
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Oct 19, 2022 16:30
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FFT posted:Shadow of the Hegemon was published in 2000 The Usenet-debate-hero-becomes-global-President thing was in from the beginning, in Ender's Game.
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Oct 19, 2022 16:46
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BaronVonVaderham posted:"Started sucking", because two teenagers influencing global politics via proto-facbook was a masterpiece. Did everyone forget that reality tv and Twitter star Donald J. Trump became president of the United States of America?
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Oct 19, 2022 16:51
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Lemniscate Blue posted:The Usenet-debate-hero-becomes-global-President thing was in from the beginning, in Ender's Game. Like I don't think Peter or Valentine get past getfiscal or dril level of influence until Shadow of the Hegemon stringless has a new favorite as of 17:08 on Oct 19, 2022 |
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Oct 19, 2022 17:05
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teddust posted:If you read anything Card wrote like post 2000 compared to his earlier stuff it's like a completely different person. I think he just got sucked into the conservative internet and lost his mind, but I'm not ruling out massive stroke because he literally forgot how to actually write a narrative. Agents are GO! posted:Didn't he also actually come off as if he didn't remember plot elements he wrote in Enders Game? There's a conspiracy theory in scifi lit circles that Card did not actually write Enders game, or at least wasn't the primary writer. The theory is that the series was intended to end up as explicit Hitler/Nazi apologia, and Card was just the frontman for a small group of fash scifi writers who wanted to remain anonymous. The primary evidence is that Card has shown, as far back as the 90's, a shocking lack of knowledge about the events that occur in his novels, compounding this is the massive drop in quality of his work over a fairly short period (the conspiracists believe the other writers abandoned the project). This is almost certainly BS, as a simpler explanation is that he is a rear end in a top hat whose "good" work is likely good entirely due to heavy handed editors. He doesn't remember what happened in his book because he hasn't thought about it since the first royalty check cleared.
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It's a Mormon tradition
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Nicodemus Dumps posted:Did everyone forget that reality tv and Twitter star Donald J. Trump became president of the United States of America? Please, you forgot professional wrestling  Pretty sure this counts as a funny image. Or cursed? Cursed can be funny in a dark way. 
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