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Martin Luiga being a guy with a track record of animosity with Kurvitz and then going out of his way to defend him against the management especially to point out that they are manipulative people, well poo poo, that's commendable Some people can be hard to work with but painting them as toxic in a way that benefits upper management should always be investigated with a careful eye
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Cicadalek posted:This gives me an excuse to bring up a little interaction which I don't see mentioned much: And still being able to discuss it with Garte Reminds me of my disappointment of not being able to explore everywhere with Cuno. Understandable of course
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the_american_dream posted:Reminds me of my disappointment of not being able to explore everywhere with Cuno. Understandable of course (He just won't react to anything). Don't check the window before leaving.
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I'm watching my friend playing Disco right now and for some reason the Scab Leader sounds like his voice is super pitched down. I played the game several times myself already and Scab Leader has a very unique voice so the difference in voice is really noticeable to me. I even youtubed some Final Cut gameplay and no, everyone else has normal voice for the Scab Leader but my friend's game copy has it pitched down for some reason.
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It might be something they messed with in one of the patches, they already quietly replaced a bunch of Jeans voice lines for some reason
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Yeah they quietly replaced Titus and Jean voicelines sometime after the final cut update so I wouldn't be surprised if they did it elsewhere too.
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I was late to this game and finished my playthrough last night. I'd been putting it off because I was kind of skeptical despite all the praise - it looked pretentious and tedious. Which it would be if the writing wasn't so drat good. I got on board from my game over 30 minutes in because Cuno made fun of me so hard. I ended up playing very straight-arrow (thinker, quit drinking, boring cop, kind of fell into moralist by ignoring politics) with a dash of art cop, which was satisfying in its way but now I want to go back and try a lunatic shithead build because it feels like I missed out on a lot. Also literal LOL at the gym teacher reveal, I had to stand up to collect myself. Is it normal to have a ton of unused skill points at the end of the game? I had like 90%+ chance on the final checks and the skills don't matter at all for the last scene.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I was late to this game and finished my playthrough last night. I'd been putting it off because I was kind of skeptical despite all the praise - it looked pretentious and tedious. Which it would be if the writing wasn't so drat good. I got on board from my game over 30 minutes in because Cuno made fun of me so hard. If you have art cop you'll have an insane amount of skill points by the end.
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My friend has triggered the thoughts for Fascism and Communism at the same time, and is currently playing the game with the working theory that the DE world is either the afterlife or limbo. (And reading the dialogue through that lens it’s not an unreasonable notion!)
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UnknownMercenary posted:Yeah they quietly replaced Titus and Jean voicelines sometime after the final cut update so I wouldn't be surprised if they did it elsewhere too. The Final* Cut
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If I want to replay the game again then I'd have to acquire the version of Final Cut before they hosed up the voices because the new Scab Leader is really bad.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:Is it normal to have a ton of unused skill points at the end of the game? I had like 90%+ chance on the final checks and the skills don't matter at all for the last scene. depends on how 'optimized' you were playing. did you unlock every thought cabinet slot you could? did you put points into the skills you thought were interesting, or just the ones you needed at the time? every skill has a handful of passive checks you'll only see at impractically high thresholds (for example, godly Rhetoric picks up on something interesting if you succeed at the church sidequest dance) but yeah, you don't ever really 'need' to level them that high
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Jack Trades posted:If I want to replay the game again then I'd have to acquire the version of Final Cut before they hosed up the voices because the new Scab Leader is really bad. New Jean is a massive step back too imo.
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dmboogie posted:depends on how 'optimized' you were playing. did you unlock every thought cabinet slot you could? did you put points into the skills you thought were interesting, or just the ones you needed at the time? I did fill the thought cabinet, and even replaced a couple of thoughts that weren't doing me much good. And I mostly put points into things to let me retry white checks. I think my favorite random thought was inexplicable feminism, though, for the extra dialogue options. Actually it wasn't art cop that gave me tons of points, it was Wompty Dompty Dom Center plus a high Encyclopedia level. I was a pretentious wanker that knew tons of random historical trivia because I'm only capable of role playing as myself.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:Actually it wasn't art cop that gave me tons of points, it was Wompty Dompty Dom Center plus a high Encyclopedia level. I was a pretentious wanker that knew tons of random historical trivia because I'm only capable of role playing as myself. yeah that's the key to getting more skill points than you'll ever need lmao
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Jack Trades posted:If I want to replay the game again then I'd have to acquire the version of Final Cut before they hosed up the voices because the new Scab Leader is really bad. I think he still works when you ask him about the photograph and during the tribunal itself but otherwise I agree... But maybe that's what they were going for.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:Is it normal to have a ton of unused skill points at the end of the game? I had like 90%+ chance on the final checks and the skills don't matter at all for the last scene. Remember that the bulk of skill checks are hidden - you don't see them at all unless you pass them. So if you were just saving your skill points for redoing white checks there's probably a decent pile of skill checks you failed without even noticing and never even got to see what you might have got from them. Edit: This is especially true for perception based skills like, well, perception. With a low perception you will never have the opportunity to notice all the things you arent seeing! Also, the game has quite a few difficult red checks at the end, especially in the church and in the vision quests. Did you really have 90%+ on all of those? That's definitely a crazy amount of skill points! GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Oct 20, 2022 |
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GlyphGryph posted:Remember that the bulk of skill checks are hidden - you don't see them at all unless you pass them. So if you were just saving your skill points for redoing white checks there's probably a decent pile of skill checks you failed without even noticing and never even got to see what you might have got from them. The drat Logic one. Need to get around to that at some point.
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GlyphGryph posted:Remember that the bulk of skill checks are hidden - you don't see them at all unless you pass them. So if you were just saving your skill points for redoing white checks there's probably a decent pile of skill checks you failed without even noticing and never even got to see what you might have got from them. Oh no there's plenty of stuff I wasn't able to pass, I just was surprised that I was pretty much able to land everything I came across on the island with the deserter and the phasmid, which I figured would be, I dunno, harder because it's the end game? But right, there's a ton of invisible stuff I probably missed too. My favorite random NPC is Egg Head, that dude's VA cracked me up every time.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:My favorite random NPC is Egg Head, that dude's VA cracked me up every time. Yeah!
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I have to do an iceberg meme featuring the egghead/dolores/book/pale theories eventually
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MariusLecter posted:Yeah! The Y to the E to the A to the A to the A to the A to the A to the G to the H to the exclamation mark
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With the recent ZA/UM news I thought "drat I should finally try playing the game again". I got about 6 hours deep back when it came out and really enjoyed it, but just... stopped playing. Instead, I did the next best thing and - taking advantage of being one of the ~million or so people in the world that understands Estonian - read Kurvitz's "Püha ja Õudne Lõhn". It was good! Quite unique in it's prose, tough to read at the start, takes a bit of time to for it to "click" and to internalize the meanings of words that are made-up or perhaps transliterated from Swedish or Polish or Russian. Somewhat overindulgent, IMO, but it certainly makes it memorable. I imagine it'd certainly be a bitch to translate, though! Would love to read a sequel, as there's a whole bunch of story threads left hanging... Same themes that are in the game run through it, like criticism of fascism, communism, social democrats, nihilism and so on. And that same dark humor, like a paragraph about the "baddest kid in school", self-proclaimed nihilist & communist ("if need be") calling everyone bourgeoisie. Here, let me try translating that part: quote:Zigi is a nihilist and a communist too. If need be. "Bourgeois" slips over his lips like a butterfly knife: "bourgeois", "bourgeoisie", "bougie", "bourgeoisie art", "petit bourgeoisie opinion", "you are bourgeois", "your bourgeoisie parents", "your parents are bourgeoisie", "that's because, Ann, your parents are bourgeoisie (Zigi even calls his teachers by their first names)", bourgeoisie slut", "bourgeoisie pup", "pederasty is a bourgeoisie disease, pederasts are bourgeoisie". Zigy is a well-read boy and also familiar with more beautiful names given to the bourgeoisie: "pursui", "bourgeois", "petit-bourgeois", "pürjel", "bürger", "kulak", "middle-class", "rentier", "landlord"... (I am in no way proficient in translating and I'm sure it doesn't work as well out of context but I tried  )Something I found interesting is that "The Pale" is called "Hall", which literally means "gray" and that in turn conjured images of a well-known (in that I'm sure almost every Estonian over the age of say 10 would recognize it, for example I remember that we sang it in music class at school ~20 years ago) melancholic Estonian song, with the following opening verse: quote:Kui on meri hülgehall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am0p1vgvBzA Gotta actually play the game now proper now.
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Angryhead posted:With the recent ZA/UM news I thought "drat I should finally try playing the game again". Dangit, I want to be able to read the book!
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I did fill the thought cabinet, and even replaced a couple of thoughts that weren't doing me much good. And I mostly put points into things to let me retry white checks. I think my favorite random thought was inexplicable feminism, though, for the extra dialogue options. Just like how Contact Mike could never pretend to be what he is not.
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Angryhead posted:With the recent ZA/UM news I thought "drat I should finally try playing the game again". what does a translation job even cost for a book that size? 10k? I’m sure between reddit and SA you could crowdfund it …………
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Angryhead posted:"Zigi at school said, that social democracy is weak and communism is mighty. Why don't we have communism, father?" lol this is great
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I visited Tallinn once. Visited the former Soviet prison museum, people-watched teens hanging around by the ferry port, dodged drunk brits on holiday, and drank good coffee. Had a nice time.
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We have communism at home. A surprisingly good summation of social democracy.
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Angryhead posted:His influence is huge. A fourth-grader with braids comes home from school and and asks: "Father, why is social democracy so weak?"
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Inspiration struck when I saw the Silent Hill 2 remake trailer. https://twitter.com/dietinghippo/status/1583007436977602560
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ziasquinn posted:what does a translation job even cost for a book that size? 10k? The book's also included in the ongoing IP rights fuckery so that's still a while from happening
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Dieting Hippo posted:Inspiration struck when I saw the Silent Hill 2 remake trailer. lol
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SexyBlindfold posted:The book's also included in the ongoing IP rights fuckery so that's still a while from happening I mean as a little project......
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