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Tales of Woe posted:Shinobi no Ittoki - interesting texture to this one, it's an original but feels like some B-list shonen from 15 years ago. it didn't really accomplish much in the first episode but there's just enough breadcrumbs for things i like that i'm willing to give it a chance After last week's "Harry, yer a 
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People say you can just skip the first boring episode of sword isekai but I tried that and it was still boring because apparently the boring part I skipped was the part where he got all the power fantasy ultra spells that can own anyone instantly.
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Xelkelvos posted:I'm not quite as bothered by it, but I don't think it's causing any dissonance in my brain like you seem to be describing. Maybe use less brain. This always bothered me in Tower of God, where the Japanese dub always calls Baam Yoru, despite the subtitles calling him Baam, not Night.
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Oct 19, 2022 03:31
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Darth Walrus posted:What's with Japan having such radically different pronunciation for Chinese names, anyway? Other foreign names in anime don't seem to diverge nearly as much. I guess a lot of Chinese cultural influence was before radio was a thing. If you have Romance of the Three Kingdoms flying around as a written text since the 1500s without any Chinese people at hand to ask how they would read a name you're probably going to go with what feels most reasonable to you.
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Oct 19, 2022 10:26
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Chinese is weird as hell as a language because chinese is a case where the written language actually pre-dated the spoken language by a lot. Standardised Mandarin, which was based on the language spoken by officials, only was constructed in the 20th century, which is kinda nuts. Japanese word borrowing from Chinese meanwhile dates to over a thousand years ago.
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genericnick posted:I guess a lot of Chinese cultural influence was before radio was a thing. If you have Romance of the Three Kingdoms flying around as a written text since the 1500s without any Chinese people at hand to ask how they would read a name you're probably going to go with what feels most reasonable to you. Chinese also has hundreds of dialects that are mutually unintelligible but they all share the same one writing system, so you have many differences on how a character can potentially be read.
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Oct 19, 2022 10:47
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Even calling them "dialects" seems like a misnomer, or I guess more of a nationalism thing. The whole point of the ideographic writing system was that you could theoretically use it to write in any language, which is why it also spread to Korea and Japan. Meaning is completely divorced from phonetics, although it does make some assumptions about grammar.
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in the future, we will all write everything in cursed chinenglish, like firefly
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Clarste posted:Even calling them "dialects" seems like a misnomer, or I guess more of a nationalism thing. The whole point of the ideographic writing system was that you could theoretically use it to write in any language, which is why it also spread to Korea and Japan. Meaning is completely divorced from phonetics, although it does make some assumptions about grammar. The most annoying thing when you have both Japanese and Mandarin garbled up in your head and you can only remember one pronunciation when trying to translate the other. The weirdest sensation is when I know the meaning of the word but I have no idea how to read it in either language.
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DIY: Serufu, the MC is such a mood. She's so chill, constantly have her head in the clouds, and very accident prone. She really shouldn't be touching any power tools. She's definitely a protagonist worth following for. Eminence in Shadow: I like Claire, the MC's older sister. Hope we get to see more of her Taming the Final Boss: The Villainess, tames the final boss, gives him happy ending, and defeat the "heroine" all in 4 episodes. Heh. Not bad. Also, anime, don't use THAT trope, please! It's a cheap way to show how despicable the villain is and everyone hated it. Beast Tamer and Farming Isekai: It's just your average fantasy RPG anime. It's not bad. But it isn't good either and doesn't bring something unique to the table. Also, I don't think Farming Isekai is actually about farming. The MC is constantly pitted against country destroying threat that only he can defeat. The Little Lies we All Tell: This has the most unique premise for CGDCT in my opinion. There's 4 friends in all girls school who have a secret they can't tell. One is an alien, one is a ninja, one is actually a dude, and one can read mind (it only works on same gender, so the dude's secret is safe). There's potential for wacky shenanigans.
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Oct 19, 2022 13:26
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Clarste posted:Even calling them "dialects" seems like a misnomer, or I guess more of a nationalism thing. The whole point of the ideographic writing system was that you could theoretically use it to write in any language, which is why it also spread to Korea and Japan. Meaning is completely divorced from phonetics, although it does make some assumptions about grammar. I believe this is a half-truth. I don’t think there’s ever been a completely ideographic writing system with widespread use.
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For what it's worth I don't think it succeeds in that goal, I'm just saying that's how the people spreading it thought of it back then. As in "if you cannot adopt this then your language is dumb."
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Your Everyday NEET posted:one is actually a dude, and one can read mind (it only works on same gender, so the dude's secret is safe).
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yeah hold on wouldnt the girl realize when she cant read his mind
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Endorph posted:yeah hold on wouldnt the girl realize when she cant read his mind The esper barely understands her own powers and I guess isn't around men to figure that out?
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As a comedy, high odds are she just has premise-enabling levels of stupidity.
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Endorph posted:yeah hold on wouldnt the girl realize when she cant read his mind The show expressly states via a pop-up text box that she has very little understanding of how her power works.
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Oct 19, 2022 19:47
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Nihilarian posted:yup, totally safe, as long as the girl who can read girls minds can't read his mind, she won't find out he's a guy Endorph posted:yeah hold on wouldnt the girl realize when she cant read his mind I like to headcanon it away as some Death Note mindgames misunderstanding. "Here I have this power that allows me to read any girl's mind! I am invincible! ...Wait, but I can't read this girl's mind!? Is it possible that she's actually a dude? No way, I would've noticed when we went to the bathroom together. No, it must be that she's figured out my ability, and now has a way to prevent me from using it! But I can't let her know that it works, so I have to be able to pretend to read her mind... for now."
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personally i think this premise is gender essentialist. i sentence the author to being quote tweeted. farewell.
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Sounds like it's going to be a highly regarded series
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Larry Parrish posted:Sounds like it's going to be a highly regarded series it's extremely dumb and silly and not to be taken seriously but idk how well the concept can hold up over more than a few episodes.
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Mob, Uzaki and Iruma are the three shows Im going to stick with and then slot in a bunch of others as time permits because holy poo poo its finally sinking in how stacked this season is now that Im watching more than one show a season again.
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i think the joke is just that shes only ever around girls since its all girls school so she just never thought about it
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I legitimately cannot think of a season in recent memory I have watched as many shows as this one. I'm at 7 and thinking of checking maybe a few more out.
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PTE, Mob, Sword, DIY, Witch from Mercury, and Alchemist for me, and I'm also still catching up on LycoReco.
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I guess this is technically last season but it's releasing currently so gently caress you. Anyway higehiro got a dub, and it loving sucks lol. It's so bad. The acting is not great, although the actress playing Sayu is pretty good her direction sucks along with everyone else's. The writing is significantly shittier than the subs, as well. In the first episode they put a this ain't in chief joke in there and it gave me aids so I turned it off. Kind of impressive considering I actually thought it was a good show when I watched it subbed. I remember this was before I was getting into manga and stuff and I was actively annoyed it didn't have a dub. Hooo boy they did me a favor by taking so long to poo poo one out.
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i think giving sayu a bit of a modern spin to her dialog works since she does have that speech pattern in her original dialog but the issue is that a lot of dub writers/translators think they're still on the pulse of modern lingo and slang because they aren't 'that old,' but they're nearly 30/early 30s and theyre completely out of touch. speech patterns among teens can completely change in just a few years, you have to work pretty hard to not make it awful the bisque doll dub managed that surprisingly well tho. i think there's a balance to strike of keeping the flow and rhythm of how teens talk without referencing too many specific catchphrases or slang terms that are likely to fall out of favor within a few years.
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Yeah that's basically my problem lol. Maybe I can't talk poo poo since I'm pushing 30 myself, but this ain't it chief is something only people older than me on Twitter have ever said, ever. Meanwhile, Marin y'know, actually talks like a teenager. I usually roll my eyes when people cry about wokified dubs or whatever but that one line caught me off guard with how bad it was.
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the wokified dubs guys are very dumb but the idea that c-list shows often have very low-effort, weirdly written dubs isnt really wrong. and the twitter arguments kinda make it harder to criticize because a lot of people have their heels dug in hard. there was this random crossdresser manga where the author literally referred to it as bl and love between two men and the tl played it more as a trans girl/gender questioning thing, which i can see how that mixup can happen with manga TL conditions as they are and lack of contact with the author, and how some crossdressing manga are written, but when this was pointed out some random translators (who didnt even work on it) came out fists swinging about it lol. like bro its very obviously wrong in a way that completely changes the content. idk. lifes easier if you ignore twitter arguments but it does bleed into reality occasionally.
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yeah Twitter people are dumb as gently caress, I avoid them. unfortunately i get exposed to their strange alien English sometimes so i notice when it gets used
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mdct posted:I legitimately cannot think of a season in recent memory I have watched as many shows as this one. I'm at 7 and thinking of checking maybe a few more out. I keep checking out shows and secretly hoping I won't like them, and then they're also good. I have 11 shows on the go now this season, plus one more I haven't tried yet and another that I will watch but I've relegated to the backlog. This season is incredible.
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Endorph posted:the wokified dubs guys are very dumb but the idea that c-list shows often have very low-effort, weirdly written dubs isnt really wrong. and the twitter arguments kinda make it harder to criticize because a lot of people have their heels dug in hard. Very glad that seven seas decided to actually listen to the criticism and edit the localization. Even if it was treated as an evil victory by gamergaters lol
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Endorph posted:the wokified dubs guys are very dumb but the idea that c-list shows often have very low-effort, weirdly written dubs isnt really wrong. and the twitter arguments kinda make it harder to criticize because a lot of people have their heels dug in hard. I think its really dumb that people have decided that whether or not you like a translation or not is some deeply political issue, and having the opposite opinion about a translation is some deep moral failing. For any side of any argument there is usually at least one really lovely person who agrees with that side. People love to find that person and use them as an example of how you must be a horrible person if you happen to agree with them on this trivial and non-important topic. Also, the idea that just being a native speaker of the language its being translated into isn't enough to point out awkward and unnatural dialogue. You need to be an expert on Japanese to criticize a translation. Like sure on very rare occasion it might be intentional in the original work, but a lot of the time its just a mediocre/bad translation.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Very glad that seven seas decided to actually listen to the criticism and edit the localization. Even if it was treated as an evil victory by gamergaters lol curious to see when the edited tl will come out tho, the 2nd volume is set for january next year IShallRiseAgain posted:I think its really dumb that people have decided that whether or not you like a translation or not is some deeply political issue, and having the opposite opinion about a translation is some deep moral failing. For any side of any argument there is usually at least one really lovely person who agrees with that side. People love to find that person and use them as an example of how you must be a horrible person if you happen to agree with them on this trivial and non-important topic.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Very glad that seven seas decided to actually listen to the criticism and edit the localization. Even if it was treated as an evil victory by gamergaters lol Gamergaters must be in a rough spot these days if they're counting a thing getting gayer as a victory.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Gamergaters must be in a rough spot these days if they're counting a thing getting gayer as a victory.
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Reminds me of people passing around a dumb image freaking out about a single line in 13 Sentinels being different in a way that lightly implied a character was nb and writing off the whole translation based on it.
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that manga was a weird case (well not uncommon for that subgenre) where a trans reading is really pretty reasonable but it's not the explicit text or anything so it was definitely a translation fuckup, but also of course all the freaks whining about 'femboy erasure' or whatever are even stupider
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lih posted:that manga was a weird case (well not uncommon for that subgenre) where a trans reading is really pretty reasonable but it's not the explicit text or anything so it was definitely a translation fuckup, but also of course all the freaks whining about 'femboy erasure' or whatever are even stupider 'femboy erasure' is definitely a hilarious thing to say but i do also think there are people who are so concerned about like, being potentially offensive or what the 'best' read would be that they lose sight of what the material actually is or what its doing
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i'm saying it was a translation gently caress-up to make what's just a possible reading the explicit text in a way that was not there originally, yes lol
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