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ZShakespeare posted:Wait doesn't this thread usually ride hard for the NDP? In the sense that they are generally the least worst option, yes. But there has never been any shortage of criticism for them re: aiming low and executing terribly
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Oct 19, 2022 22:12
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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ZShakespeare posted:Wait doesn't this thread usually ride hard for the NDP? Every party is the worst party possible except for every other party which is the worst party possible.
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Oct 19, 2022 22:40
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I don't think anyone here actually likes the NDP, they're just usually the marginally least bad option in most races. Like they don't offer anything inspiring and are in fact mostly pretty loving bad. It's just everyone else is worse.
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Oct 19, 2022 22:44
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ZShakespeare posted:Wait doesn't this thread usually ride hard for the NDP? I vote for them, I don’t simp for them
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Oct 19, 2022 23:07
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Baronjutter posted:I don't think anyone here actually likes the NDP, they're just usually the marginally least bad option in most races. Like they don't offer anything inspiring and are in fact mostly pretty loving bad. It's just everyone else is worse. Yeah also a completely different story when discussing the provincial party vs the national one, mainly because the BC NDP actually wins elections sometimes
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Oct 19, 2022 23:12
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I hate on the NDP for only doing marginally good things instead of very good things, however you have to balance that against every other party actively trying to make life worse.
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Oct 19, 2022 23:31
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They're terrible at running campaigns and they're terrible at effectively using they power they have, when they have it. That said, my other choices for federal and provincial representation are worse, so it's NDP or abstain from voting. Functionally, either choice is about the same.
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Oct 20, 2022 00:58
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infernal machines posted:They're terrible at running campaigns and they're terrible at effectively using they power they have, when they have it. That said, my other choices for federal and provincial representation are worse, so it's NDP or abstain from voting. Functionally, either choice is about the same. Really curious which parts of the current BC Green platform you find so objectionable that stapling your unconditional vote to the fossil fuel lobby is preferable
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Oct 20, 2022 01:43
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Franks Happy Place posted:Really curious which parts of the current BC Green platform you find so objectionable that stapling your unconditional vote to the fossil fuel lobby is preferable I think infernal machines would have a hard time voting for the BCNDP. Having said that, Mike Schreiner (leader of the Ontario Greens) is mostly not so bad, and it's hard to argue he's any worse than Andrea Horwath was. The rest of the party... well, your satisfaction with (or tolerance of) local candidates may vary. The ONDP candidates I had the opportunity to vote for were pretty much all good, while the Green candidates often demonstrated the near-total absence of a vetting process in the party at federal and provincial levels.
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Oct 20, 2022 01:50
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Franks Happy Place posted:Really curious which parts of the current BC Green platform you find so objectionable that stapling your unconditional vote to the fossil fuel lobby is preferable I don't live in BC, so none, really. eXXon posted:I think infernal machines would have a hard time voting for the BCNDP. Merit Styles has been okay, certainly no worse than I'd expect from the official opposition to a majority government. I anticipate she will continue to be okay. I don't know anything about Karen Stephenson, and evidently neither does anyone else around here, but at least she finished ahead of the Ontario Party. Horwath should've been shown the door two elections ago, but the collapse of the OLP seemed to buoy her support, best showing ever and all that. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Oct 20, 2022 |
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Oct 20, 2022 01:54
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infernal machines posted:I don't live in BC, so none, really. Fair enough, that's on me, I've spent all day screaming at NDP staffers and I'm all riled up. I would say that if you are an elder millenial with a view of the Green Party in your area that is based on their past as a bunch of Tesla libertarians, you should go back and maybe check them out, they have moved significantly to the left in most regions as young people terrified about climate change clown car into the party and wrestle it away from boomer Greenpeace shitheads They're still useless federally but fixing that requires a provincial farm team to improve the quality of the staffers regardless so I'm not sweating that right now. A lot of climate action needs to be provincial anyways
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Oct 20, 2022 02:02
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No worries, and for what it's worth i hope the Greens become viable in BC and ON. If people are squeezing out the Tories in Teslas, that's good, as long as they're not being replaced by people even wackier.
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Oct 20, 2022 02:08
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ChickenDoodle posted:The scumbag anti-SOGI Chilliwack school trustees lost their reelection horribly, so it seems like things might be alright As a chillbilly out in the 'wack I'm afraid I must inform that there are still 2 openly bigoted trustees; one of the OG anti-sogi's Heather Maahs was re-elected and a new guy, forgot his name he owns Hofstede's (Fraser Valley version of Fresh St) got in. But the main psycho Barry Neufeld got the boot, as well as another fellow dbag so the votes should be 5-2 in favour of the queer agenda going forward. Teri Westerby is a new elect and openly trans so hopefully that drives the jerks even more crazy! Unfortunately our do-nothing car dealership mayor easily defeated the activist who campaigned on housing and climate action for the second election in a row, smdh. So it's nice for sure to potentially have a non lovely school board, but I would caution against the false hope of progress being a trend - any victory can be reversed, at any time.
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Oct 20, 2022 02:24
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https://twitter.com/richardzussman/status/1582959543843450880?t=c9XUp9-mSXsUmEv7iAcsyA&s=19
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Oct 20, 2022 06:02
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JawKnee posted:https://twitter.com/richardzussman/status/1582959543843450880?t=c9XUp9-mSXsUmEv7iAcsyA&s=19 Ahaha whoops! Somewhere Kevin Falcon just came so hard
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Oct 20, 2022 06:10
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What a joke
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Oct 20, 2022 06:16
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In absolute awe at the incompetence of the NDP. Disgusting
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Oct 20, 2022 06:24
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Anjali even pleaded with them not to do this to Eby lol
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Oct 20, 2022 06:27
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Oil and gas parasites rather have liberals than ndp so why not kill the current host and move on?
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Oct 20, 2022 07:22
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I hope Anjali keeps running for some position, she clearly has the platform and skills to win, she gave the federal Liberal candidate a run for his money in the snap election. Guess I'm cancelling my BC NDP membership tomorrow. No way I'm voting Liberal, and Greens need to rebuild themselves, but this means anyone left of center will be eyeing the next chance to jump ship. At least, for those that will still participate at all after this.
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Oct 20, 2022 09:01
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Oxyclean posted:
I find it very funny that twitter trolls have latched onto this and re-posting it over and over on McKenney's tweets as if they or their supporters would be distraught at negative press from the police association lol.
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Oct 20, 2022 13:53
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Franks Happy Place posted:Really curious which parts of the current BC Green platform you find so objectionable that stapling your unconditional vote to the fossil fuel lobby is preferable Careful buddy…
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Oct 20, 2022 14:06
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I pointed this poo poo out years ago and got this cool av for it.
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Oct 20, 2022 14:09
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There's an article on CBC about anti-trans candidates running for school board trustee in Ontario. How can I identify if any of the candidates in my riding are anti-trans or are otherwise shitheads so I can vote accordingly? I was only planning on voting for mayor and councillor but here we are.
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Oct 20, 2022 16:21
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acetcx posted:There's an article on CBC about anti-trans candidates running for school board trustee in Ontario. How can I identify if any of the candidates in my riding are anti-trans or are otherwise shitheads so I can vote accordingly? I was only planning on voting for mayor and councillor but here we are. Fortunately chuds provided a handy list of who you should absolutely not vote for: https://www.voteagainstwoke.ca/
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Oct 20, 2022 16:26
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acetcx posted:There's an article on CBC about anti-trans candidates running for school board trustee in Ontario. How can I identify if any of the candidates in my riding are anti-trans or are otherwise shitheads so I can vote accordingly? I was only planning on voting for mayor and councillor but here we are.
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Oct 20, 2022 16:31
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Perfect, thanks.
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Oct 20, 2022 16:35
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They call themselves ParentsChoice or ParentsVoice, things like that
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Oct 20, 2022 16:47
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The BC Green platform is literally just "we're in favour of all the good things, but we're against the bad things" with zero detail.
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Oct 20, 2022 17:00
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At least we can say that our shortest Prime Minister's reign (Tupper) was more than two months (68 days). He never sat in Parliament unlike Truss, but runner-up, Turner was second who lasted 79 days and did sit.
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Oct 20, 2022 17:20
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evilpicard posted:The BC Green platform is literally just "we're in favour of all the good things, but we're against the bad things" with zero detail. The BC NDP platform is literally just "we're in favour of all the good things, but we're against the bad things" with zero detail.
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Oct 20, 2022 17:44
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Actually that's not true. It's "we're not the BC LIberals"
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Oct 20, 2022 17:46
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enki42 posted:Fortunately chuds provided a handy list of who you should absolutely not vote for: quote:How we select the trustees we recommend
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Oct 20, 2022 17:54
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ZShakespeare posted:Actually that's not true. It's "we're not the BC United" Fixed that for you.
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Oct 20, 2022 18:03
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Calumanjaro posted:I used voteagainstwoke.ca to figure out who not to vote for. Thanks for this, I'm spreading it around
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Oct 20, 2022 18:21
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Another Bill posted:Thanks for this, I'm spreading it around I'm just imagining them getting very excited as their metrics go through the roof, not quite realizing how it is people are using their invaluable resource.
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Oct 20, 2022 18:34
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This is from October 8 but nothing seems to have come of it. https://twitter.com/richardzussman/status/1578867650608107520
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Oct 20, 2022 19:07
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Mr. Apollo posted:This is from October 8 but nothing seems to have come of it. Even without the hypocrisy, eliminating the only opposition in any "democratic" selection process makes it obvious that the process was never going to be democratic in the first place. Exceptions made for this only with the most obvious and extreme cases; if the candidate has committed a felony then yeah, you got no choice (see for example: Trump the literal traitor). But using an edge case and seemingly made-up internal rule to auto-select the result reads as rigged no matter how any political party tries to sugar coat it. They could have asked her to pay a fine, would have still been bogus but it would deliver the slap on the wrist without destroying the semblance of democracy. But nope, they decided to risk losing all her supporters to pick the leader the top insiders wanted. What's pathetic is that the UK is basically going through the exact same problem right now, and neither of these parties will realize their mistake. Orthanc6 fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Oct 20, 2022 |
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Oct 20, 2022 19:18
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ZShakespeare posted:Actually that's not true. It's "we're not the BC LIberals" This is an incredible platform, to be fair.
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Oct 20, 2022 19:20
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Lain Iwakura posted:Turner was second who lasted 79 days and did sit. Turner never sat in the House as PM.
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