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There's not a power on earth that could compel me to switch from vegetarian to vegan until they find a way to make vegan cheese that doesn't taste like old socks
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some plague rats posted:There's not a power on earth that could compel me to switch from vegetarian to vegan until they find a way to make vegan cheese that doesn't taste like old socks You can do it. Vegan cheese is getting a lot better however I have found after a while of not eating cheese at all, you don't really miss it except in very specific circumstances like pizza. I very rarely eat vegan cheese. Part of the reason people do not think they can stop eating cheese is it's literally addictive. It's concentrated milk which means the casomorphine is concentrated. If you're already vegetarian for moral reasons then there is a huge imperative to ditch dairy. The dairy industry is the meat industry with extra torturous steps and is arguably worse than the direct beef industry.
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Sep 1, 2022 02:09
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My meat is unbeatable
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cashew cheese sauce is tasty as gently caress and fun to make.
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Sep 7, 2022 16:25
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real cheese is full of opiates so until we put them in vegan cheese it will never be the same
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Sep 7, 2022 16:29
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:cashew cheese sauce is tasty as gently caress and fun to make. also extremely easy to make, which I appreciate
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Sep 7, 2022 16:34
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Just ate 12 pieces of meat
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Sep 7, 2022 16:51
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Good soup! posted:Just ate 12 pieces of meat Are you pro-animal abuse?
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Sep 7, 2022 17:12
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DrBox posted:Are you pro-animal abuse? Not unless sucking dick is animal abuse
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Sep 7, 2022 17:20
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Mayor Dave posted:Not unless sucking dick is animal abuse Animals can't consent so it depends on whos dick you are sucking.
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https://twitter.com/DxEverywhere/status/1579159106882936833 Some activist who the feds went after for rescuing a few pigs were found not guilty. TYT sucks or whatever but they interviewed one of the defendants. Lol at all the bullshit the feds tried to pull. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3aQTQPJk4
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Oct 20, 2022 04:06
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DrBox posted:You can do it. Vegan cheese is getting a lot better however I have found after a while of not eating cheese at all, you don't really miss it except in very specific circumstances like pizza. I very rarely eat vegan cheese. Part of the reason people do not think they can stop eating cheese is it's literally addictive. It's concentrated milk which means the casomorphine is concentrated. If you're already vegetarian for moral reasons then there is a huge imperative to ditch dairy. The dairy industry is the meat industry with extra torturous steps and is arguably worse than the direct beef industry. dairy free cheese and cow cheese is hardly discerning in some forms. oh and cheese should taste like old socks
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I do my laundry in a timely fashion so my only frame of reference for what old socks are supposed to smell like is when my roommates have cheese.
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Oct 20, 2022 05:43
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He said taste, not smell.
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sorry if my posts are bad I'm tired from sucking dick for money down at the docks until my plug (the guy at aldi) had my fix (havarti cracker cuts) because I am addicted to the concentrated opium in cheese
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Oct 20, 2022 15:19
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I'm a vegetarian, not vegan. My dairy is basically cream cheese for my bagels, and half/half for coffee. i like half/half because it reduces the acidity, and I'm not aware of a vegan alternative that does the same (I have tried some of them).
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Oct 20, 2022 17:08
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actionjackson posted:I'm a vegetarian, not vegan. My dairy is basically cream cheese for my bagels, and half/half for coffee. i like half/half because it reduces the acidity, and I'm not aware of a vegan alternative that does the same (I have tried some of them). Why are you a vegetarian?
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Oct 20, 2022 17:11
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DrBox posted:Why are you a vegetarian? I had a somewhat traumatic experience, maybe five years ago I got one of those rotisserie chickens to eat at the grocery store. But when I was eating it, you could obviously see the shape of the whole animal. I felt very sick and stopped right there.
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actionjackson posted:I'm a vegetarian, not vegan. My dairy is basically cream cheese for my bagels, and half/half for coffee. i like half/half because it reduces the acidity, and I'm not aware of a vegan alternative that does the same (I have tried some of them). i'm an oat milk guy but if yr into cold coffee, cold brewing reduces the acidity. i usually put some sorta fake milk in my hot coffee but i can drink cold brew black no problem.
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actionjackson posted:I'm a vegetarian, not vegan. My dairy is basically cream cheese for my bagels, and half/half for coffee. i like half/half because it reduces the acidity, and I'm not aware of a vegan alternative that does the same (I have tried some of them). cum is vegan if it's harvested with consent fyi
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actionjackson posted:I had a somewhat traumatic experience, maybe five years ago I got one of those rotisserie chickens to eat at the grocery store. But when I was eating it, you could obviously see the shape of the whole animal. I felt very sick and stopped right there. Oh, ok. The cruelty in the dairy industry is extreme. You won't find a cow shape in your milk or creamcheese but the dairy industry is the meat industry with more torturous steps. I hope you can find something else to put in your coffee or on your bagels.
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DrBox posted:Oh, ok. The cruelty in the dairy industry is extreme. You won't find a cow shape in your milk or creamcheese but the dairy industry is the meat industry with more torturous steps. yeah I'm not really interested in debating the topic, I was just answering your question. I'm guessing you're a vegan - I totally get this point of view, and if you were to argue the topic on philosophical principles, I think veganism makes a lot more sense. But it seems like you asked the question just to argue with me when I provided the answer. I do sometimes put (real) pb on the bagel, and/or a bit of preserves. Uncle Boogeyman posted:i'm an oat milk guy but if yr into cold coffee, cold brewing reduces the acidity. i usually put some sorta fake milk in my hot coffee but i can drink cold brew black no problem. I do like cold coffee, I almost always put ice in mine (even in the winter). I don't do cold press because it makes it too easy to drink more coffee than I should for the day. In general, the ph of black coffee is around 5.0, and dairy milk is 6.5-6.8, so right on the border of acidic and neutral. I've read something like almond milk is around 6.0, but I'm not sure. I just found it wasn't enough. I already drink dark roasts to lower the acidity. I just don't do well with bitterness (probably the same reason I don't drink any beers with an IBU>30) actionjackson has issued a correction as of 17:45 on Oct 20, 2022 |
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actionjackson posted:yeah I'm not really interested in debating the topic, I was just answering your question. I'm guessing you're a vegan - I totally get this point of view, and if you were to argue the topic on philosophical principles, I think veganism makes a lot more sense. But it seems like you asked the question just to argue with me when I provided the answer. Why are you in a vegan ethics thread talking about your dairy consumption and highlighting the fact that you don't eat meat if you don't want to debate the topic? Abstaining from meat because an animal was killed but continuing to consume dairy when you know animals are killed is inconsistent.
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mainly to see if anyone knew of a vegan alternative to half/half that has a similar ph (6.5-6.8) though I do want to ask about wool - considering sheep need to be shorn every so often, and that their wool grows back, is using wool considered vegan or not?
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actionjackson posted:mainly to see if anyone knew of a vegan alternative to half/half that has a similar ph (6.5-6.8) No. It's still selectively breeding animals to put them in this dependent position and utilizing animals as a resource. If the sheep are rescues and they are only shorn when it's best for them, not optimal for the production and sale of the wool that would be different. Also tons of industry-wide problems. Look up mulesing and the rate of infant mortality. It's barbarric. Edit: Here's a link highlighting the issues. DrBox has issued a correction as of 18:22 on Oct 20, 2022 |
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actionjackson posted:mainly to see if anyone knew of a vegan alternative to half/half that has a similar ph (6.5-6.8) https://www.jameshoffmann.co.uk/weird-coffee-science/hacking-sour-espresso I haven't tried it with drip coffee. I'm not sure if it'd work because you're now working at different volumes and concentrations but might be worth a shot.
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Oct 20, 2022 18:13
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DrBox posted:No. It's still selectively breeding animals to put them in this dependent position and utilizing animals as a resource. If the sheep are rescues and they are only shorn when it's best for them, not optimal for the production and sale of the wool that would be different. this is the smartwool site at least - it does mention they don't do mulesing. it sounds like NZ is much better with this stuff than Australia https://www.smartwool.com/what-matters.html#/smartwool/zqrx-regenerative-merino-wool what you said about if sheep were rescues, does that actual matter given they are still being used as a resource?
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Oct 20, 2022 20:01
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N_N every page in this thread is just arguing about what vegan products are good.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:N_N every page in this thread is just arguing about what vegan products are good. Some answers Beans Peanut butter Raspberries Spaghetti More beans Potato chips Garlic Oreos Beans again
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actionjackson posted:this is the smartwool site at least - it does mention they don't do mulesing. it sounds like NZ is much better with this stuff than Australia That site says they do not do mulesing which is good but it does not mention castration, tail docking, timing births for late winter/early spring leading to high morality rate, life expectancy or what age they go to slaughter, and live transport conditions. Even if all these issues are resolved we are still intentionally breeding animals that are dependent on human intervention and viewing them as a resource means the risk of abuse will always be relatively high. There's a million videos of workers getting frustrated with sheep in the shearing process and harming the sheep. This is a totally predictable byproduct of human nature and our relationship to these animals. actionjackson posted:what you said about if sheep were rescues, does that actual matter given they are still being used as a resource? It would be the same as someone giving a dog a good home and then selling their feces as manure or selling the fur they naturally shed after brushing them. I would still have a problem with someone breeding dogs for a dog wool business. As soon as your business is reliant on animal products then there are perverse incentives at play to act outside of interests of the animal.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/DxEverywhere/status/1579159106882936833 knowing they were found not guilty the interview is a laugh a minute. there's video of the crime being committed but prosecution won't show it because it's too horrible. the crime of theft.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:N_N every page in this thread is just arguing about what vegan products are good. used products are always vegan because they don’t create demand for new dead animals but sometimes other vegans argue with me about this but you know what gently caress em i like air force 1s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesTGAJoVCE In case you didn't hate the royal family enough.
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ELTON JOHN posted:used products are always vegan because they don’t create demand for new dead animals but sometimes other vegans argue with me about this but you know what gently caress em i like air force 1s i'm gonna be real my last two fake leather belts have fallen the gently caress apart so i'm prob gonna go buy a used leather belt unless someone can recommend me a cheap decent looking vegan belt that won't disintegrate  i did just get some nice cheap comfy vegan dress shoes for a wedding and they did the job, we'll see how long they last Uncle Boogeyman has issued a correction as of 15:29 on Oct 21, 2022 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i'm gonna be real my last two fake leather belts have fallen the gently caress apart so i'm prob gonna go buy a used leather belt unless someone can recommend me a cheap decent looking vegan belt that won't disintegrate yeah uheck sed leather also better for the environment because at least it doesnt dissolve into microplastics in 3 years
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i'm gonna be real my last two fake leather belts have fallen the gently caress apart so i'm prob gonna go buy a used leather belt unless someone can recommend me a cheap decent looking vegan belt that won't disintegrate Old navy stuff sucks in general but their fake leather belts are pretty good. Mine has lasted for over 5 years.
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I'm gonna drop something here that I found on another site:quote:Sorry if this is a bit disjointed, but it’s late and I’m still not entirely sure how to put this idea into words. I’m sure there are philosophers who have articulated this way better than I can.
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ELTON JOHN posted:yeah uheck sed leather also better for the environment because at least it doesnt dissolve into microplastics in 3 years leather is something for which there is no real artificial equivalent, vegan leathers as you've found are all some shade of bad, and often petrochemical based, most vegan leathers are actually horrible for the environment lol good quality leather is among the longest-lasting and most environmentally sustainable materials you can use for things like apparel, if you can't bring yourself to buy new leather then like you said, used is a good way to get quality products without being part of the demand for new ones lol'in every time i see someone wearing pleather boots that are literally flaking apart
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