TG Crowdfunding Thread 3: Far West has been released. That's not a joke.

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The Eyes Have It: Feb 10, 2008; Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

John Company 2e has hit retail, for cheaper than it cost me to pledge and order, which isn't in my hands yet. Always fun when that happens :sigh:

# ? Oct 19, 2022 20:07

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# ? May 22, 2024 16:47

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Every 5th Cowboy Bebop campaign needs a super depressing ending where everyone is a little worse off than they were at the start.

# ? Oct 19, 2022 20:08

OgreNoah: Nov 18, 2003

Remember where I said that I'd not purchase more Kickstarters? Well, after getting the 3rd Canvas I immediately also got the new Spirit Island. NO MORE!

# ? Oct 19, 2022 20:11

tokenbrownguy: Apr 1, 2010

The Eyes Have It posted:

John Company 2e has hit retail, for cheaper than it cost me to pledge and order, which isn't in my hands yet. Always fun when that happens

Same. A buddy in my small flyover town got his double order and I haven't even seen my one. :smith:

# ? Oct 19, 2022 22:26

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Meanwhile, Mind MGMT is sloooowly arriving into the US.

quote:

Hi Doctor,

It's Jay Cormier from Off the Page Games. MIND MGMT should be on its way very soon to all backers! We're expecting boats to dock within the next 2 weeks and then to the fulfillment centres!

# ? Oct 19, 2022 23:20

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

It appears CMON is having the stretch goals for Death May Die:FotU pull from a wider timeline for it's Stretch Goal investigators. I feel like this is a reference to something, but it's not immediately coming to me.

https://twitter.com/CMONGames/status/1580230614577709058?t=LfZpKUU-uwnra0h_4yApxw&s=19

# ? Oct 20, 2022 00:22

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

Why does Best Value The Dude not have a White Russian in his free hand?

It's a very poor sculpt

The Eyes Have It posted:

John Company 2e has hit retail, for cheaper than it cost me to pledge and order, which isn't in my hands yet. Always fun when that happens

I've had a few campaigns where they're very up front about the fact that unfortunately they need to launch in certain countries due to publishing contracts, etc.

Every time that's happened though it usually comes with an apology update from the Devs stating they wished it was in backers hands first.

Is the retail copy of John Company 2e the exact same one as what you ordered? IE was there a deluxe version that you paid extra for?

Infinitum fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Oct 20, 2022

# ? Oct 20, 2022 00:38

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

That looks like they made it in Heroforge.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 00:39

The Eyes Have It: Feb 10, 2008; Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Infinitum posted:

Why does Best Value The Dude not have a White Russian in his free hand?

It's a very poor sculpt

I've had a few campaigns where they're very up front about the fact that unfortunately they need to launch in certain countries due to publishing contracts, etc.

Every time that's happened though it usually comes with an apology update from the Devs stating they wished it was in backers hands first.

Is the retail copy of John Company 2e the exact same one as what you ordered? IE was there a deluxe version that you paid extra for?

I didn't think there were any exclusives or anything for John Company 2e, but it's been a while and I can't really review the backerkit info to refresh my memory (it only shows a confirmation).

Ah well, bummer but it happens.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 02:23

Captain Theron: Mar 22, 2010

The only 'exclusive' I believe would be the metal coins, if you ordered them. Otherwise everything is the same.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 06:47

Bottom Liner: Feb 15, 2006; a specific vein of lasagna

They sell coins on their site for PP2, I assume they'll do the same for Joco.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 06:55

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

Man October has been a busy month of shipments for me
- Verdant
- The Gardens + A Walk In The Park
- Mind MGMT

Hamlet looks to ship next week.
Had Flamecraft rock up recently as well.

Let me know if anyone wants pics of any of the above

# ? Oct 20, 2022 13:01

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Facade Games have announced one of their new book games, Hollywood 1947. It�ll be on Backerkit this time, and launches in about 3 months.

# ? Oct 21, 2022 00:00

Father Wendigo: Sep 28, 2005; This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

CMON is having a livestream with Death May Die's designers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWPVD5Ne35E

# ? Oct 21, 2022 18:06

Bodanarko: May 29, 2009

Wyrmwood done hosed up lol. Launched a high end desk KS where the minimum damage is somewhere around $2250 after shipping for a plain fuckin desk with no accessories. They wanted to avoid the problem they had with their game table KS (priced too low, insane demand, scaling issues) by pricing down demand with a 3k minimum buy in.

They achieved that, I think set a KS record to fastest to a million (maybe same to 2M) but then hit a fuckin brick wall and as of today are in the red, since the cheaper buy in option has led to the obvious result of people dropping the higher upfront commitment lol.

I love their products and find their YouTube entertaining (minus libertarian rants by one of the the crypto-rich founders) but it�s clear they fell on their face with a lack of market research and understanding, and are just ignoring legit questions from backers on the KS. They will have to get creative to pull this off, maybe drop some discounts or increase the value of that steep buy in. I�m fairly surprised with how paralyzed they seem right now but shouldn�t be considering the lack of business and marketing experience that they have in leadership roles there.

# ? Oct 21, 2022 19:57

Bottom Liner: Feb 15, 2006; a specific vein of lasagna

Good. Insufferable turds with overpriced junk. For those prices you should have hand made heirloom pieces of much better quality, not the mass produced lovely stuff they do that�s a waste of the exotic woods.

# ? Oct 21, 2022 20:31

Invalid Validation: Jan 13, 2008

Imagine plopping down 5 grand on a Kickstarter and then not making the product.

# ? Oct 21, 2022 21:37

Solkanar512: Dec 28, 2006; by the sex ghost

Bottom Liner posted:

Good. Insufferable turds with overpriced junk. For those prices you should have hand made heirloom pieces of much better quality, not the mass produced lovely stuff they do that�s a waste of the exotic woods.

Seriously, given their �love� of regulations I�m surprised they haven�t ran afoul of the Lacey Act or CITES or similar trade laws. I hope their shop unionizes some day.

# ? Oct 21, 2022 21:43

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

Bodanarko posted:

Wyrmwood done hosed up lol. Launched a high end desk KS where the minimum damage is somewhere around $2250 after shipping for a plain fuckin desk with no accessories. They wanted to avoid the problem they had with their game table KS (priced too low, insane demand, scaling issues) by pricing down demand with a 3k minimum buy in.

They hit a million in 4min and then it tapered off dramatically.

They usually update twice a week, and todays update is missing - cause they hosed up.

This video gives a good behind the scenes of the whole launch, and Kickstarter actually sends their Director of Games out to their offices because the Modular Gaming Table broke all kinds of things when they launched. Doug immediately goes "Launch the $500 reservation tier"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKd4HxKInZI

Even as a Wyrmwood fan, they've totally misread the room on this one. They should have launched MGT 2.0 instead of the desk, and the desk should have been a boutique thing launched on their website.

I really like all the stuff I've bought off them, but they are a premium product. If I want an extra set of tiles for my current collection they are $62 aussie goddamn dollars each, and you'd need 7 to fill a rack.
Like yeah I like their poo poo, and their customer service is really good, but their products are once in a blue moon purchases for a lot of people.

They may be finally hitting the wall.

# ? Oct 22, 2022 02:53

sasha_d3ath: Jun 3, 2016; Ban-thing the man-things.

My knowledge of Wyrmwood is that they let you play with their toys at Gen Con and then you have to buy something or else fight really hard to get away from their table because they will hound the poo poo out of you. It is VERY annoying.

No, hipster flannel salesman who smells like axe body spray, I do not have $95 for a set of dice and a magnetic dice cup thing. Please let me enjoy the rest of this convention.

# ? Oct 22, 2022 10:35

Desfore: Jun 8, 2011; Confirmed at least one furry on the Smash team

It wouldn't surprise me if they manage to squeeze by their goal by the end of the funding period. They've hit a massive slump (with negative growth now), but there's always a spike at the end of a project. However, labeling tier rewards as down-payments, for the rest to be collected in January, really kinda rubs me the wrong way. I guess it's not any different than pledging $1 to join a pledge manager, but the wording makes it feel like it should run afowl of some kind of KS guidelines. Especially since they keep touting the, "Pledging is not a sale" motto.

# ? Oct 22, 2022 10:54

FirstAidKite: Nov 8, 2009

Funniest thing I've seen from wyrmwood is still their overdesigned d&d 5e wooden player sheets they pitched

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wyrmwood/the-rpg-tracking-system

FirstAidKite fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Oct 23, 2022

# ? Oct 22, 2022 11:08

gschmidl: Sep 3, 2011; watch with knife hands

I used the same paper character sheet for well over a decade and (if I or my parents didn't throw it out 15 years ago, I don't know if it still exists) it would still be fine.

# ? Oct 22, 2022 11:13

CODChimera: Jan 29, 2009

have wyrmwood delivered all of their previous table kickstarters? were there problems with shipping?

# ? Oct 22, 2022 11:34

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

It'll definitely get funded, it's just not the 10 million double up of the MGT slamdunk they might have been hoping for.
The larger funding target ensures the costings for the desks are covered is all, and there is a MUCH smaller pool of people willing to drop $3,000 on a desk they won't get for another loving year.

FirstAidKite posted:

Funniest thing I've seen from wyrmwood is still their overdesigned d&d 5e wooden player sheets they pitched

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wyrmwood/the-rpg-tracking-system

This is them licensing the product for manufacture.

Paladin Woodworking did all the design work, but the dude is effectively an etsy level 1 man band shop and didn't want to really expand his business that way.
I agree it's a dumb loving product though

CODChimera posted:

have wyrmwood delivered all of their previous table kickstarters? were there problems with shipping?

They had a ton of problems ramping production up to scale, but things have been flowing smoothly for the last few months.

They should be finished with all original orders, including international, by Feb-Mar 2023 if I'm reading the backer updates correctly.

I only backed for a $1 to read along, but they've introduced a Fast Pass system once the KS fulfilments have been met and it looks like they're offering pre-covid pricing on them
Cavaet seem to be you had to be an original backer on the KS campaign, so even the $1 pledge gets you access currently.
This is potentially a very very good deal as wood prices have just gone through the loving roof due to the pandemic.

# ? Oct 22, 2022 13:30

HopperUK: Apr 29, 2007; Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

gschmidl posted:

I used the same paper character sheet for well over a decade and (if I or my parents didn't throw it out 15 years ago, I don't know if it still exists) it would still be fine.

Apropos of very little this reminded me of the time I bought a huge job lot of Vampire Dark Ages books in SA Mart and the corebook had the goon's old character sheets in it. I can't remember whose it was but hey dude, if you sold me those and you want your sheets back, PM me.

# ? Oct 22, 2022 14:40

Bodanarko: May 29, 2009