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MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

grieving for Gandalf posted:

I think it's good that people have gotten help this way. you've got to agree it could be run better though lol

Probably, it's a goon project. That's not really what happened though, is it? We got a bunch of trolls throwing a huge tantrum across three subforums because they don't like the idea of people getting help to buy food. Then they set up their own fund that will never every get off the ground because they didn't actually care in the first place.

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Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

grieving for Gandalf posted:

I think it's good that people have gotten help this way. you've got to agree it could be run better though lol

agreed. it’s a tragedy and a total failure of oversight that some goons have given insignificant amounts of cash and other goons still have apartments and living cats without addressing the completely sincere concerns of other goons who never participated

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
No one goes to casinos everything's online nowadays

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Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
My only direct experience has been applying for a modest amount ITT, but it sounds like no one has really complained of being looked over

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
there were at least 2 people in the qcs thread who said that happened to them

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Jose posted:

there were at least 2 people in the qcs thread who said that happened to them

what about after they followed up though

VideoKid
Jul 28, 2006

Avatar War

Crime on a Dime posted:

what about after they followed up though

I think one of them Plinky admitted they fell through the cracks and apologized

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

MonsieurChoc posted:

Probably, it's a goon project. That's not really what happened though, is it? We got a bunch of trolls throwing a huge tantrum across three subforums because they don't like the idea of people getting help to buy food. Then they set up their own fund that will never every get off the ground because they didn't actually care in the first place.

people getting help to buy food is what they objected to? why would they do that

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

MonsieurChoc posted:

Probably, it's a goon project. That's not really what happened though, is it? We got a bunch of trolls throwing a huge tantrum across three subforums because they don't like the idea of people getting help to buy food. Then they set up their own fund that will never every get off the ground because they didn't actually care in the first place.

Spite can be a powerful motivator but I am sincerely intrigued to see if it's strong enough to contend with the glacial bureaucracy of US tax code and corporate legal requirements

If they actually go through all of that and get it incorporated I will eat every word of my skepticism

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

grieving for Gandalf posted:

people getting help to buy food is what they objected to? why would they do that

they are libs, nazis, transphobes. real sick people.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
shut the gently caress up about goonfund drama

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:

Jose posted:

there were at least 2 people in the qcs thread who said that happened to them

wow 2 people in the span of 4 years or however long it's been running? that's crazy. thank god your gbs rear end is here to play cop

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Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



MonsieurChoc posted:

Probably, it's a goon project. That's not really what happened though, is it? We got a bunch of trolls throwing a huge tantrum across three subforums because they don't like the idea of people getting help to buy food. Then they set up their own fund that will never every get off the ground because they didn't actually care in the first place.

Worth noting is that while there are people trying to make the new fund work, zero of them are the people that were complaining in QCS/etc. I hope the new fund can be successful, but unless/until they're up and running, :shobon:

e; Note that the poster who quoted me below has 1 post in this thread (that one), and all recent posts are all in FYAD, QCS, or PYF, and also hasn't posted at all in the other thread to help organize! I don't know why people bother to complain at CSPAM for 'raiding' forums or whatever because of the succ thread when this poo poo is freely allowed.

Skyl3lazer has issued a correction as of 12:13 on Oct 20, 2022

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Some of my best friends are poor

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Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Skyl3lazer posted:

Worth noting is that while there are people trying to make the new fund work, zero of them are the people that were complaining in QCS/etc.

This is just flat out wrong. Weird thing to lie about too

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.
i think it is silly to relitigate this in one thread or the other. let this one be focused on plinkey's great efforts and let the other one be the other one. imo. i guess.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Lady Radia posted:

i think it is silly to relitigate this in one thread or the other. let this one be focused on plinkey's great efforts and let the other one be the other one. imo. i guess.

I agree, the fund is destroyed we should all move on and quit pretending

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Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

UNOFFICAL GOONCUCKS THREAD, GET YOUR UNOFFICIAL GOONCUCKS HERE

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate



Azathoth pleaaaaase

Fortaleza posted:

When you think about it, this fund is being run anarchistly and the newer fund is being run socialistly. Little something to bake your noodle on

my experience in leftist communities has very consistently been that online, self proclaimed communists generally run things the way Plinkey is doing, and self proclaimed anarchists generally run things the way the new fund is doing

now that's a real noodle baker

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
not sure how often the email is checked, but nothing in my inbox or spam folder

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Plinkey said once or twice a week iirc

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Plinkey said once or twice a week iirc

ah, thank you 🙏🏼

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

Dongicus posted:

UNOFFICAL GOONCUCKS THREAD, GET YOUR UNOFFICIAL GOONCUCKS HERE

🤲

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
money 4 arf
chicks 4 free

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

ArfJason posted:

money 4 arf
chicks 4 free

sounds like lyrics to a p good song

i will not be listening to it

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

I want my

I want my

I want my Arf mon-eeeeeey

Halman
Feb 10, 2007

What's the...Rush?
Sent you a PM(and an email), Plinkey

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Obviously there has been a lot of discussion here and elsewhere. I've read dozens of testimonials of people helped by this fund. I recognize that administering something like this involves a great deal of hard, emotionally intense work. I don't want to say anything to diminish the serious positive impact it has made on its beneficiaries' lives.

I, however, am frustrated at *how* this has been run. The forums staff and I are not equipped to personally vet any sort of goon-run charitable organization. I refuse to be a link in that accountability chain - any fund that runs via this site has to show accountability on its own. I can respect that you forthrightly stated from the getgo that you will not be doing that, but given that the fund is so large, continuing with that policy would be a reckless choice.

I can appreciate the diy "just give help asap" nature of how this started, but it has grown too big for that to hold. Over $3000 is a lot of money to give out each month. If only for the security of the people who depend on it, I must insist you take measures to correct this at once. I am happy to give you a chance to bring things up to a reasonable standard, but it is not optional for the fund to be run in a way that doesn't allow any exploitation of goons' good intentions.

Plinkey posted:

i talked to Jeff, next month I'll post a public spreadsheet
This is a start. I would like to hear exactly what is going to be on this spreadsheet, and how often will we see updates. Money in, money out, and money total would be the bare minimum. I also must insist that the money from the fund goes to its own bank account, dedicated for just this purpose.

Lastly, please someone you trust who is authorized to act on behalf of the fund. I assume this step will take the longest but it really is for the best. You should not just personally doing all of this. That doesn't have to mean they have access to everyone's personal information, but a lot of people depend on this fund, and you ought to make sure someone is around to operate it if you are unavailable.

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Obviously there has been a lot of discussion here and elsewhere. I've read dozens of testimonials of people helped by this fund. I recognize that administering something like this involves a great deal of hard, emotionally intense work. I don't want to say anything to diminish the serious positive impact it has made on its beneficiaries' lives.

I, however, am frustrated at *how* this has been run. The forums staff and I are not equipped to personally vet any sort of goon-run charitable organization. I refuse to be a link in that accountability chain - any fund that runs via this site has to show accountability on its own. I can respect that you forthrightly stated from the getgo that you will not be doing that, but given that the fund is so large, continuing with that policy would be a reckless choice.

I can appreciate the diy "just give help asap" nature of how this started, but it has grown too big for that to hold. Over $3000 is a lot of money to give out each month. If only for the security of the people who depend on it, I must insist you take measures to correct this at once. I am happy to give you a chance to bring things up to a reasonable standard, but it is not optional for the fund to be run in a way that doesn't allow any exploitation of goons' good intentions.

This is a start. I would like to hear exactly what is going to be on this spreadsheet, and how often will we see updates. Money in, money out, and money total would be the bare minimum. I also must insist that the money from the fund goes to its own bank account, dedicated for just this purpose.

Lastly, please someone you trust who is authorized to act on behalf of the fund. I assume this step will take the longest but it really is for the best. You should not just personally doing all of this. That doesn't have to mean they have access to everyone's personal information, but a lot of people depend on this fund, and you ought to make sure someone is around to operate it if you are unavailable.

couldn’t have said it better myself

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


meanwhile a week later and the other thing is still in the "who should be on the committee" phase

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Buck Wildman posted:

meanwhile a week later and the other thing is still in the "who should be on the committee" phase

Is a week a long time or

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

Is a week a long time or

lol

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Lastly, please someone you trust who is authorized to act on behalf of the fund.

I hereby submit to the committee my official nomination for Ol sakkman to co-run the unofficial goon fund, once he is out of rehab.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

I got the tude now posted:

couldn’t have said it better myself

Hey it's the Jordon Peterson loving freak, why the gently caress are you unbanned?

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007

MonsieurChoc posted:

Hey it's the Jordon Peterson loving freak, why the gently caress are you unbanned?

follow the money

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grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

I think Jeff has made the right decision and I'm very interested in what the guy's response will be. I legitimately don't know if he can run the fund under those conditions, basic as they are. Jeff, what happens if he can't furnish those things?

I got the tude now posted:

follow the money

it's all in the numbers

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

grieving for Gandalf posted:

Jeff, what happens if he can't furnish those things?

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

MonsieurChoc posted:

Hey it's the Jordon Peterson loving freak, why the gently caress are you unbanned?

he’s cia

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
I'm not going to get a reply am I

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Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

you didn't follow proto bud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvF7YTKlI28

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