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I'd be happy to see Starmer take over from the Tories as despite everything the party is still funded by the unions which gives them some material influence however psychotic the leadership is. That said, I won't be voting for the fucker.
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Answers Me posted:I thought Trot was the go-to for ‘leftist you don’t like’ (another term whose various modern-day uses I don’t fully understand, if I’m honest) which is ironic as trots are usually deeply opposed to tankies and vice versa
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josh04 posted:I'd be happy to see Starmer take over from the Tories as despite everything the party is still funded by the unions which gives them some material influence however psychotic the leadership is. That said, I won't be voting for the fucker. Speaking as a union rep, if I were part of a union that supported the Labour party I'd be having very strong conversations with the bargaining team regarding what we're getting for our investment.
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forkboy84 posted:Oh for goodness sake. I see your rich understanding of politics is matched by an equally deep understanding of history. "Some rebellion". It was the Hungarian revolution & it happened 3 years after Stalin was dead. Khrushchev was firmly in charge in the USSR & it was about 6 months after the speech at the 20th Party Congress that began some form of de-Stalinisation.
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Scientastic posted:I think Keir Starmer would probably stop short of the “grind up poor people to make pâté for the King” plan, which I suspect is the next step if the Tories win another general election Rachel Reeves opposed Iain Duncan Smith's call for benefits to get an early inflation-based increase
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josh04 posted:I'd be happy to see Starmer take over from the Tories as despite everything the party is still funded by the unions which gives them some material influence however psychotic the leadership is. That said, I won't be voting for the fucker. Lol Lmao Lolmao
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Thinking of giving a pity vote to Boris.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yep. Tankies are anti-Stalinists. Don't be obtuse, I didn't argue that. Merely pointing out that Dabir is wrong again.
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forkboy84 posted:Don't be obtuse, I didn't argue that. Merely pointing out that Dabir is wrong again.
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forkboy84 posted:Oh for goodness sake. I see your rich understanding of politics is matched by an equally deep understanding of history. "Some rebellion". It was the Hungarian revolution & it happened 3 years after Stalin was dead. Khrushchev was firmly in charge in the USSR & it was about 6 months after the speech at the 20th Party Congress that began some form of de-Stalinisation. Thanks for clarifying all the irrelevant details. I don't give a gently caress which exact decades-old incident some irrelevant morons jerked themselves raw over a dictator sending in the tanks to crush was the exact origin of the term. The point is that "tankies" refers to the kind of people who jerk themselves raw over dictators sending in the tanks. Dabir fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Oct 23, 2022 |
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happyhippy posted:Thinking of giving a pity vote to Boris. Comedy timeline: Sufficient undeclared MPs give their vote to Johnson "so he can have a fair hearing" and "in the interests of the debate". Membership vote for the joke candidate. Johnson returns to power for one day, and then is recalled when the privileges committee issues its report. There is another leadership election. Nadine Dorries stands against Sunak 3.0. Membership vote for the joke candidate.
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Dabir posted:Thanks for clarifying all the irrelevant details. Just covering yourself in thought ain't ya. Lashings of context and history It's certainly important not to think about details. Whenever possible
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fuctifino posted:According to twitter, Laura Kuenssberg interviewed Penny Mordor this morning and gave her a very soft and easy interview, but interrupted Keith at every opportunity and laid into him hard. I'm even seeing Tories complain about it on twitter. lmao That line "He said he wants to form a Govt that will reach 'far and wide'" if you're a tory voter that has to give you pause, don't conservatives usually want limited government?
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Oh wow! My first red text! Bit o mental health shaming in all, that's cool
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Wasn't me, I wouldn't waste money on ya chief. Feel free to review which of your other bad posts might have incited someone with a debit card.
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Dabir posted:Wasn't me, I wouldn't waste money on ya chief. Feel free to review which of your other bad posts might have incited someone with a debit card. Did I say it was you?
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smellmycheese posted:Podges reckons it’s all over for Boz This means Boris has a supermajority.
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Barry Foster posted:Did I say it was you? Did I say you said so?
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Barry Foster posted:Oh wow! My first red text! Yeah that's messed up, whoever wrote that can gently caress off. Pull up, thread
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FWIW I tried all the SSRIs, they didn't do anything lol
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Setting the definitely-not-accusations aside.Barry Foster posted:Just covering yourself in thought ain't ya. Lashings of context and history It does not matter. The politics and morality of the Hungarian rebellion are not relevant to what tankies are today, and weren't really relevant back then. The exact origin of the term is mildly interesting at best. Language evolves over time. This particular term has retained a core meaning, which is 'authoritarians who like their dictators to embroider hammers and sickles on things'. Or some branch out to 'any dictator who says "death to America" at least once a week'. Yes, America is bad, we all know that, but a tankie would follow that thought with "therefore Assad good and there were no chemical attacks in Syria", which I hope to gently caress nobody here would do.
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A tankie is a bakkie where the bak has been replaced with a tank. This is a technical answer.
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Dabir posted:Wasn't me, I wouldn't waste money on ya chief. Feel free to review which of your other bad posts might have incited someone with a debit card. Please sir, it wasn't me sir
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domhal posted:Are there two people named Suella Braverman in the Convervative party? Doing terrible things to non-British people is just practical politics.
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domhal posted:Are there two people named Suella Braverman in the Convervative party? Yeah that did get a hearty lol from me. Suella clearly angling for a return to the Home Office, which hopefully will not be granted. Can definitely see Rishi putting a couple of the proper psychos in important jobs, though, for the sake of 'unity'. While he probably personally doesn't give a gently caress about immigration or the culture wars, he will definitely sign off on some horrible fascist poo poo if it solidifies his hold on the party.
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Endjinneer posted:Comedy timeline: Constant leadership elections ultimately leading up to an early general election and the breathless reporting in the runup to that would be a convenient way to keep winter covid/flu surges and the increasing toll of rising poverty/cost of living off the front pages when Tory psychodramas can be endlessly reported instead.
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Shyrka posted:Tankie is used by liberals in the same manner as Woke is used by conservatives. Its use as a perjorative outweighs any fixed definition. Genuine admiration for this post that summoned an immediate practical demonstration of its veracity
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Alright, fine, gently caress it, if someone you don't like defines a word then that means the word is meaningless. You got me, tankie just means "leftist you don't like". Can't help feeling like I've seen this dance danced before but oh well, don't let me step on your toes.
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Dabir posted:Setting the definitely-not-accusations aside. "the politics of a given action are not relevant to whether we throw slurs at a supporter of a given action" sir, sir, at long last sir, have you no sense of decency?
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Spangly A posted:"the politics of a given action are not relevant to whether we throw slurs at a supporter of a given action" No, you're absolutely right, it's true, we must look in detail at the Hungarian rebellion to decide whether people who deny Assad's chemical attacks against his own population in Syria are worth listening to. I agree, I should research the history of the Soviet Union immediately after Stalin's death in depth before I form opinions about whether people who act like this are in the wrong. You have, as they say, "gotcha".
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Just had a convo with one of our elders (in our flats) - 86 - she voted Blair, then went off him and then voted Cameron. Then she said his mistake was saying he would quit if Brexit won (expecting that it wouldn't) but it did as we all know, but she's voted tory since. She always votes because her father told her that she must always vote (probably true for a lot of that 'silent' generation - toddlers in WW2). Now she doesn't know who to vote for. I said I was pondering Plaid, so she said 'good idea, I might think about that'.
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