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The latest episode of Great British Baking Show is cracking me up. A bunch of british people having to make s'mores, something they've never heard of, involving them having to make "digestifs", marshmallow, and "chocolate ganache" from scratch. No lie, I do want to try their versions, but Paul Hollywood acting like this version is the definitive version is kind of crazy.
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Nihonniboku posted:The latest episode of Great British Baking Show is cracking me up. A bunch of british people having to make s'mores, something they've never heard of, involving them having to make "digestifs", marshmallow, and "chocolate ganache" from scratch. No lie, I do want to try their versions, but Paul Hollywood acting like this version is the definitive version is kind of crazy. I haven't watched this episode but the Mexican week was incredible. This tweet thread basically sums it up https://twitter.com/andyheriaud/status/1577518672997863426 "No one at channel 4 has ever eaten a proper taco" lol
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Theres an episode from a few years ago with that sassy old lady judge where Noel acted like they put her in a burlap sack and threw her around. What a show.
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Papercut posted:I haven't watched this episode but the Mexican week was incredible. This tweet thread basically sums it up Theres always the classic Japanese week where the task was to make steamed buns.
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Somehow they stretched “baking” to include tortillas because they could only think of two Mexican baked goods and the show has three rounds.
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Peripheral is pretty mediocre. I wish they'd adapted Pattern Recognition or something rather than such an overtly s/f novel. It just comes off ready player one-ish and a bit cheesy so far.
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nu hellraiser is a dog. all it did was make me want to watch the original
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Yeah, the first half was shot with no lights which was a bold stylistic choice. I think they realized their error half way through though because they called in a bunch of floodlights for the second half, so it all evens out.
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ozmunkeh posted:Yeah, the first half was shot with no lights which was a bold stylistic choice. I think they realized their error half way through though because they called in a bunch of floodlights for the second half, so it all evens out. I originally thought my TV settings were off but that went away real quick when it began to look like Scooby-Doo. how did they make a sexless hellraiser
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Man I'm usually the first to complain about not enough lights but I only had trouble in some of the outdoor scenes in like the second act or so.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Theres always the classic Japanese week where the task was to make steamed buns. It was frankly incredible how across three rounds and around eight contestants, there was perhaps one dish that actually included a classic Japanese recipe/style. They literally had more dishes with an explicit US style (hamburger steamed buns) in that week than they had Japanese ones.
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Catching up on Season 2 of Primal. The visual storytelling is still second to none, but it feels like Genndy saw the music video for Pearl Jam's "Do The Evolution." and made it his entire mood board. That being said, the way the show plays with its own aesthetics of violence is truly something to behold. If the first season's brutality often felt like Metalocalypse (though less comic), everything here feels even darker, crueler, and (explicitly) so often unnecessary. EDIT: Episode 5 is rear end, though. The Modern Leper fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Oct 23, 2022 |
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yeah my thoughts on Hellraiser 2022 directly after watching it: - Visual effects were gorgeous, which really buoyed it. really would have disliked it otherwise - The main character was not that compelling or interesting. Also she looked like a muppet for 95% of the film thanks to the costume/make-up direction. - Probably most importantly, it never felt scary at all. Not enough well used dark shots, poorly lit claustrophobic spaces, etc. The overly dark stuff felt pointless, and then once it got extremely brightly lit, what little suspense was drained out of the film. And once the Cenobites were confirmed to not be a drug addled hallucination, they just kind of appeared and meandered around. They never felt like a threat, more of an obstacle. - Not enough bondage gear and/or leather. as pointed out in the thread, how did that manage to make a sexless Hellraiser flick??? - Not gory enough - Soundtrack should have been wayyyyy better. I would have liked something more like the Guest, with dancy goth/industrial stuff popping up here and there, since the franchise has been such a staple/influence of that musical scene, it would have been a logical inclusion. We got ultra generic poo poo instead. - Jamie Clayton did a great job with the role as given, but effectively she just wandered around the set like the rest of the Cenobites. Best scene with her was with Norah, the girl who gets stuck in the hidden passageway and then jabbed by the dude impaled by the sewing machine. ultimately, felt like very high quality direct-to-DVD Hellraiser movie. C/C- film at best. I would have liked a far more tense, dramatic horror where the main character's addiction issues lead to it not being clear at all what's real or not, culminating in a visually insane, gorefest with the Cenobites. Instead we got part of the plot of Hellraiser 2, and part of the plot of OG Hellraiser, with none of the stakes or tension that made either of them interesting.
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Having only ever seen the first Hellraiser, I always thought that the point of solving the box was that you'd be sucked into their dimension and torture/pleasured to an extreme degree, if not converted into one of them, and death was no escape. Instead, in 2022, they're just killed gruesomely, really quickly, I guess. I think? It wasn't clear what happened to folks after they get sucked in, beyond just dying. Also, the point of Hellraiser (again, I've only seen the first one) is that by seeking too great heights of pleasure and basically being a selfish poo poo, you're essentially the architect of your own capture, there's an irony to it. In 2022, oh, you got poked by the box while it solved itself and now a monster gets you. There was a throwaway line about the main character being somewhat Frank-like, but I never got that from her character, she just seemed miserable and kind of a crappy person rather than a craven (ha) pleasure-seeker. It was basically a monster movie where bad luck or someone entrapping you in an extremely lazy way gets monsters sent after you. There needs to be some level of gross temptation for it to give that ol' queasy feeling. doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Oct 23, 2022 |
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I’m really shocked everyone itt hates the new Hellraiser movie. I thought it was a good return to form after a thousand pure garbage sequels
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If Hellraiser didn't work for you, slam it completely in reverse and watch Los Espookys on HBO. Hellraiser from the cenobite perspective. If that doesn't work, watch Scooby Doo or something idk
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Los Espookys is so loving good, I'm rewatching season 1 before I break into season 2. What a wonderfully entertaining show, it sorta reminds me of when Flight of the Conchords showed up and it was like, I have no idea who these people are but they are awesome.
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CelticPredator posted:I’m really shocked everyone itt hates the new Hellraiser movie. I thought it was a good return to form after a thousand pure garbage sequels What form, exactly? There's no sex, there's virtually no thematic overlap with the first two (the only good) movies, the worldbuilding is flat, you have no characters you can actually like, the writing is tortured (not in a fun hellraiser way), and the entire point of the lament configuration (you actively make the choice to call the cenobites and face the consequences) is replaced by just making it a pokey box of doom that sends innocent bystanders to their doom with a quick jab. But other than that, it's pretty average.
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For one the cenobites aren’t lame Kenner toys or Freddy quip machines
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CelticPredator posted:For one the cenobites aren’t lame Kenner toys or Freddy quip machines "Save your breath... FOR SCREAMING." 1993 Freddy or 2022 Cenobite? You make the call.
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Memnaelar posted:What form, exactly? There's no sex, there's virtually no thematic overlap with the first two (the only good) movies, the worldbuilding is flat, you have no characters you can actually like, the writing is tortured (not in a fun hellraiser way), and the entire point of the lament configuration (you actively make the choice to call the cenobites and face the consequences) is replaced by just making it a pokey box of doom that sends innocent bystanders to their doom with a quick jab.
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Memnaelar posted:"Save your breath... FOR SCREAMING." “No tears please…it’s a waste of good suffering!”
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CelticPredator posted:“No tears please…it’s a waste of good suffering!” Go back to your original response and tell me how this helps make its point. So the original cenobites -were- Freddy quip machines after all? In any case, plenty of folks have explained their take on why the old Hellraisers were good, even with their bad moments (which that quote falls into, imo) and why the new one just wasn't. You think it was a good return to form? I'm glad you found pleasure in it. But I think you'll continue to be in the minority there.
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The new Hellraiser reminded me of the new Predator, where it was so shocking that it wasn't literally awful that people got really hyperbolic about how good it was. Both are series with solid first entities, mostly followed up by complete crap and then rebooted in 2022 by different people. The new ones are both mediocre, but got a low key boost by unexpectedly not being the worst thing you have ever watched.
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Memnaelar posted:What form, exactly? There's no sex, Pleasure and pain can take many forms, this one's about addiction. Riley may not be "likable" but she is to me a pretty engaging portrait of an addict, someone who is aware that they are making bad decisions and is trying to not screw up but still does and keeps hurting people anyway. She's in a tailspin and wants to fix things but may not be able to. I like that. It's a cool theme. quote:and the entire point of the lament configuration (you actively make the choice to call the cenobites and face the consequences) is replaced by just making it a pokey box of doom that sends innocent bystanders to their doom with a quick jab. I mean that ties into the theme of the new one, it's not just that you personally suffer for your curiosity, but others suffer too, which if you care about any of the people around you can be worse. Like yeah thematically it's different. That's... fine! Remakes/reboots/etc. should change things!
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I think the point being raised is that, absolutely, you can connect with those themes in the new Hellraiser, but a) it's not a return to form (unless we specifically mean "low budget horror movie that surprisingly punches above its weight"), and b) even recognizing those themes does not mean that you necessarily think they were handled effectively, or that the world of Hellraiser is the place to do it. I'm not super invested in the Hellraiser lore, but my understanding is that one concept has been that it's not the hands that open the box, but the desire. It's interesting to retell it as an addiction story (that your addiction directly harms others around you, and that ending the cycle is a literal choice between self-destruction and living with the harm you've already caused), but I can understand how that would feel at odds with the whole point of the series (or the good entries) to date. HR was a solid 90 minutes "rainy afternoon" movie, and it was nice to see that guy from ER getting work. Prey was still the better resurrection of an otherwise played out 80s franchise, imho. EDIT: Holy poo poo, this was a 2 hour flick. The Modern Leper fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Oct 24, 2022 |
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CelticPredator posted:I’m really shocked everyone itt hates the new Hellraiser movie. I thought it was a good return to form after a thousand pure garbage sequels I thought it was great, and the second half was even better! Funny enough, seems like everyone else hated the second half, so I dunno.
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New one was absolutely fine. A little slow and clunky but it had some cool gore and it kept my attention. I think it would have been way better received if it was called like "Hellraiser: Laments" or "Hellraiser: Resurrections" or whatever. There is no need to reboot the Hellraiser franchise! It has always been a very loose anthology with little established lore! Stop making me put dates after movie titles, I beg of you
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Glottis posted:The Peripheral (first 2 episodes) were enjoyable diet cyberpunk for me. The second episode expands the universe at least as much as the first. It seems like it's gonna be a straight ready player one thing at first but diverges enough from that to be entertaining. I read the book, which was a pretty fun read with ultimately a bit of a trippy premise with some typical William Gibson storytelling. From the trailer it looks like a very generic cyberspace thing. I'll wait for a year or so and see if anyone ITT even remembers the show before I try it.
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Chas McGill posted:Peripheral is pretty mediocre. I wish they'd adapted Pattern Recognition or something rather than such an overtly s/f novel. It just comes off ready player one-ish and a bit cheesy so far. I've always thought Pattern Recognition would make for a good movie. Ideally you'd get David Fincher on it, but a Fincher imitator could cut their teeth on it too.
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The Peripheral seems pretty dumb and since it's the westworld people it will probably have too many stupid mysteries that never get resolved, but I guess I'll keep watching it for now
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I do think that it's cool that The Peripheral immediately tells you that true time travel does not appear to be possible - only information can be sent - and changing the past is possible, just not your own past. Nice little dodges for the kind of poo poo that STEMlords like me obsess over.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I do think that it's cool that The Peripheral immediately tells you that true time travel does not appear to be possible - only information can be sent - and changing the past is possible, just not your own past. Nice little dodges for the kind of poo poo that STEMlords like me obsess over. I don't know if the show goes into it, or will go into it (so beware), but in the book meddling with pocket time universes is a hobby of obscenely wealthy people who kinda see it as their own private game of Sid Meier's Civilization.
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