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Senethro posted:Where you've got prisoners, you can have wardens. You could have a Penal Officer class with Commissar as a career. One of the Last Chancers (an expendable, non-Inquisition penal unit) is a disgraced commissar. I don't know a character as a warden would fit with the existing narrative/voice lines but a disgraced commissar that is basically 40k Saltzpyre would be cool.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 15:43 |
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Lassitude posted:a disgraced commissar that is basically 40k Saltzpyre would be cool. ... I'd buy it.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 16:15 |
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Pretty psyched for this one, both Vermintides were great.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 16:33 |
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Senethro posted:Where you've got prisoners, you can have wardens. You could have a Penal Officer class with Commissar as a career. Commissars would give other characters a bonus when they hit them with friendly fire Bonus bonuses if it manages to knock down the other player. It might need a balance pass.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 17:36 |
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Corbeau posted:... I'd buy it. “Kruber. KRUBER! Drive me closer! I want to hit them with my sword!”
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 19:13 |
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Azran posted:I remember their depiction in one of the Gaunt's Ghosts novels being a bit weird, it was basically a continuous stream shooting in a low arc. It's been a literal decade so I might be misremembering. Dan Abnett never quite wrapped his head around how some of 40K weapons worked in his early days, but then I think that's broadly true of a lot of the writers. Many just see bolters as 'fire big bullets I guess??' (Which is all fine. I don't actually care that much.)
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 19:17 |
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The worst thing is when in video games the bolters don’t fire explosives A bolter without explosive rounds is just a big stupid looking assault rifle
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 19:37 |
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Things like meltaguns and bolters and lightning claws won't be in the game, they did an interview a while back where they were pretty explicit about the kind of stuff that will show up
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 21:13 |
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The leak from the beta had both a melta and a bolter, so they might show up.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 21:22 |
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I'm actually super excited to see the story unfold through the campaign. Dan Abnett is a great writer and I hope he went completely ham on it.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 21:31 |
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LostRook posted:The leak from the beta had both a melta and a bolter, so they might show up. There's a few weapons there that I would be so chuffed to have in the game at launch. Let me mince heretics with an Eviscerator then char the bits with a flamer.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 21:35 |
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Flamer at least is easily confirmed by the Zealot details dialogue when choosing a class, as it’s exclusive to them.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 21:43 |
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Yeah, the flamer is in. I just want a comically huge chainsword to go with it.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 21:43 |
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apostateCourier posted:Could even make it a Veteran subclass, frankly. There is no way an Adeptus Arbites isn't going to be class. You're basically Judge Dredd, the class basically writes itself.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 22:08 |
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The weapon list looks p. good. After the beta I was worried they were doing some enormously creative counting with the different variations on weapons, but if the icon list is accurate then they've covered all the favorites.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 22:49 |
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lemme be a fuckin' disgraced Arbite with a cool dog or a jokaero lol
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 22:52 |
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I am very stoked for this game. The wife even pre-ordered it to play before release and she didn't even love Vermintide. I'm not sure why that is, but I think the sci-fi and shoot elements might be more popular.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 06:38 |
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Internet Explorer posted:I am very stoked for this game. The wife even pre-ordered it to play before release and she didn't even love Vermintide. I'm not sure why that is, but I think the sci-fi and shoot elements might be more popular. maybe she wants to spend time with u
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 06:44 |
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Maybe... much to think about.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 06:51 |
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I'm pretty surprised how much I want to play this again given that I have bounced pretty hard off every single L4D/ish game I've played. Part of it is definitely the aesthetic but I think something about the potential for the ol' gittin gud just didn't click with Vermintide for me but it did here. Pretty messed up.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 07:10 |
from my limited experience with the beta it seems fatshark has nailed that weird space of 'fun despite not being actually good'
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 07:17 |
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Wheeee posted:from my limited experience with the beta it seems fatshark has nailed that weird space of 'fun despite not being actually good' I can't parse this; define good
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 07:22 |
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"popularity doesnt determine quality" i tearfully mutter to myself as people ignore me to play their beloved video game
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 07:48 |
apostateCourier posted:I can't parse this; define good well-crafted i suppose?
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 08:37 |
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Wheeee posted:well-crafted i suppose? Exceptional sound design, hugely aesthetic visual design, extremely solid gameplay. Just a real shitshow all around. Snark aside the beta had massive problems with performance and of course like any weird niche game the devs seem to be weirdly disconnected from good ideas in some spaces - QoL, class design - but to call the game poorly crafted is a lol and a lmao.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 08:42 |
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I guess much like the Tabletop games the 40k world is just so cool and interesting it overcomes being a less 'refined' game than it's fantasy counterpart. The fact that they absolutely nailed the aesthetic and sound and visuals and the game is fun despite it's problems means it has overcome many of it's drawbacks and will reach a bigger audience than fantasy could've. Like the game is still making me want to play it really bad after the beta, that doesnt happen often, it's the same feeling I get when playing doom eternal and prodius, I just wanna play more! they must be doing something right! Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Oct 24, 2022 |
# ? Oct 24, 2022 08:47 |
they stapled the classic l4d-like gameplay onto a loveable IP, doesn’t matter that it’s a janky mess, it’s fun as to the buckaroo who got offended, lol this entire thread is full of longtime vermintide fans posting fondly about the incompetent stupidity of fatshark, that they produce jank filled with questionable design choices isn’t exactly controversial the guy they hired to do the soundtrack did a fantastic job tho
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 09:03 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCOuP1bld70 Release window weapons list revealed! Bolter - Melta - Plasma confirmed Lasgun patters include Bullpup, Sniper and Krieg Patterns three different patters of auto rifles, Vostroyan and Tallarn patterns! Chain Axes and Commissar Rapiers confirmed! overall a pretty good start!
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 09:28 |
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Al-Saqr posted:
Can't watch the video now but does the commisar rapier come with an offhand pistol?
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 10:17 |
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True love means loving the flaws even as you hope that they'll be overcome!
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 10:17 |
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Al-Saqr posted:I guess much like the Tabletop games the 40k world is just so cool and interesting it overcomes being a less 'refined' game than it's fantasy counterpart. The fact that they absolutely nailed the aesthetic and sound and visuals and the game is fun
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 10:25 |
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Ravenfood posted:Can't watch the video now but does the commisar rapier come with an offhand pistol? That we don't know yet, so far the leak only included names an icons. Basically there's one very fancy sabre/rapier and one standalone laspistol, either of which could reasonably be a combo weapon but it's not confirmed either way.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 10:37 |
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Zephro posted:I was actually a bit worried because the Ogryn hype video just showed more dark industrial corridors, and while that is indeed very on-brand for 40k I was hoping for some more varied environments. One of the best bits of VT2 (and the DLCs for the first game) was getting out of green-and-grey Ubersreik and into forests, snowy mountains, farmland etc. Those concept-art pieces that were posted several pages back at least suggest there should be more varied environments in the full game but AFAIK we've not actually seen any of them yet... I think they did themselves dirty limiting themselves to a Hive City, if that is the plan. Then again, the hub is set on an orbiting ship so I suppose there's no reason they couldn't send dropshops to non-hivecity locations on the planet, or invent some reason to give rejects access to a teleportarium to go to some more varied locales
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 10:56 |
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The lore stuff they've put out has hinted at threats on other planets in the system, so it seems likely that you'll be visiting places outside the hive.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 11:35 |
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We've only seen underhive poo poo so far. The forge, the munitions train and some other set pieces. Hives are big places and there will definitely be some upper spire maps where the rich people live as well as outside platform sections, probably with a fleet battle in the skies.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 12:06 |
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I do hope Fatshark was able to work in some Jungle Deathworlds so I can relive all the Catachan jungle fighter short stories. Hell, even some Catachan cosmetics is all I am asking for.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 12:13 |
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Termyie posted:I do hope Fatshark was able to work in some Jungle Deathworlds so I can relive all the Catachan jungle fighter short stories. Hell, even some Catachan cosmetics is all I am asking for. Well one of the levels is absolutely going to be a garden of nurgle so you’re gonna get a jungle!
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 12:21 |
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Vermintide 2 update just added nurglings for a seasonal event What are the odds they took the model from Darktide and theyre one of their so-far-unshown extra enemies/Factions?
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 13:32 |
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Termyie posted:I do hope Fatshark was able to work in some Jungle Deathworlds so I can relive all the Catachan jungle fighter short stories. Hell, even some Catachan cosmetics is all I am asking for. As the resident Catachan fanatic, I've spent way too much time thinking about how a Deathworld Veteran class may work. A likely route would be to make them a mix of Vermintide's Dwarf Ranger and Elf Shade, with a heavier emphasis on melee and flanking positions. Give him a smoke bomb ultimate that puts him into stealth to line up backstabs and you've got a decent unique-feeling class. Also if they're gonna be DLC Fatshark better put in some kickass Catachan-pattern weapons like the auto-fire lascarbines and the autoguns with underslung grenade launchers (plus a million knives).
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Termyie posted:I do hope Fatshark was able to work in some Jungle Deathworlds so I can relive all the Catachan jungle fighter short stories. Hell, even some Catachan cosmetics is all I am asking for. Do you WANT scorpions the size of tanks? Because that's how you get scorpions the size of tanks.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 16:15 |