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MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

PITY BONER posted:

I'm Xi's head and eyes averting from Hu and avoiding any direct sight of him.

One doesn’t really expect such beta male behavior from someone soon to be an emperor. The name tags are still funny.

Alpha male with Chinese characteristics.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?




Such a perfect photo to sum up Xi's China.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Grand Fromage posted:



Such a perfect photo to sum up Xi's China.

LOL at the clearly up-to-date photos on their badges.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Makes me think of how it's normal to heavily photoshop your ID photos in Korea, often to the point where they don't look like you at all.

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

Grand Fromage posted:

Makes me think of how it's normal to heavily photoshop your ID photos in Korea, often to the point where they don't look like you at all.

there's a thing in Infinite Jest where video calling had been standard but people kept buying more and more elaborate set pieces / accessories (basically physical equivalents to filters and backgrounds) to the point that everybody got exhausted and went back to voice calling

A Jupiter
Apr 25, 2010

That's very prescient. Until at least the end of 2020 people were doing the quirkly zoom backgrounds, and now everyone cares so little that barely anyone turns their webcam or unmutes during meetings.

the heat goes wrong
Dec 31, 2005
I´m watching you...

Grand Fromage posted:



Such a perfect photo to sum up Xi's China.


Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

ili
Jul 26, 2003


Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




Grand Fromage posted:

We had pamphlets from University of Toronto advertising a program where they would accept literally any Chinese student who applied, they just had to pay increasing amounts of tuition depending on how bad their grades were.


i went to u of t on what was basically a free ride through a mix of abusing their grant system and making up the rest by scamming chinese students into paying exorbinant prices for european cheeses id steal from the loblaws down at bathurst/st clair. they had a ton of cash and 0 real world sense and were just constantly blowing it on whatever they thought would make other people think "drat i want that".

on one of my first days there i was in the student payments building and the guy in front of me had a huge backpack on and carrying a note in his hands. he was chinese, scrawny, no taller than 5 foot 2. he walked up to the desk/window thing they had there, slide the note across, and as she read it he pulled off and unzipped his backpack and pulled out 16 grand in cash to pay her. that was when i realized i needed to make chinese fob friends lol

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012


Sad that we will never see anything like this ever again.

Renreeja
Oct 11, 2007

Grand Fromage posted:

Makes me think of how it's normal to heavily photoshop your ID photos in Korea, often to the point where they don't look like you at all.

Last time getting an ID picture in Korea went with my wife to some local photostudio place, where this Ajumma takes the picture then immediately starts clone stamping the gently caress outtof my face on this yellowed 90s PC, probably photoshop 7. All very deftly with the mouse. My picture looks like some weird plastic face ken doll man. We laughed alot. Serbisu.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

McGavin posted:

Sad that we will never see anything like this ever again.

It is :smith:

HK cinema from the 1970s till the handover was just magic. I’d love for it to return, but only it’s memories will remain.

Hong Kong cinema was so varied, fun, and distinctively it’s own thing, hence why the CCP could never allow it to live. Just bland garbage Mainland co pros at first, and now nothing.

Cantonese is a wonderful language, and possibly the best in the world for telling people to die in the streets with.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Seems not cool tbh!



https://www.justice.gov/live

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Participation in Malign Schemes is a pretty good charge though, I like when they have fun names.

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Grand Fromage posted:

Participation in Malign Schemes is a pretty good charge though, I like when they have fun names.

It’s honestly a lot like the crazy translations of Chinese crimes

HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice
Arrested for hurting the feelings of the American people.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-arrested-and-13-charged-three-separate-cases-alleged-participation-malign-schemes-united

Mentions payment in bitcoin.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
Seraph finally gets the book thrown at 'im

Cling-Wrap Condom
Jul 23, 2015

I'm tryna get my peen touched, pants.
So are we looking at a new century of humiliation here or what

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Cling-Wrap Condom posted:

So are we looking at a new century of humiliation here or what

I doubt it because it would mean the CCP got humiliated

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

McGavin posted:

Sad that we will never see anything like this ever again.
Or this
https://twitter.com/TimesSqKungFu/status/1512856871748743179

or this
https://twitter.com/hkfilmnet/status/1339780336650231808

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007


That is bad rear end

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

MarcusSA posted:

That is bad rear end

It is barely scratching the surfaces

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Marshal Prolapse posted:

It is barely scratching the surfaces

Ok, I need a top 50 "maybe I'll find it at the sketchy used VHS rental place" HK movies. At least as cheesy as the early Jackie Chan stuff, and hopefully exactly as bad as the Ghost Snatchers thing I just witnessed. Please share with me your poorly dubbed or badly subtitled HK masterpieces.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
A good guide to HK cinema is the book "Sex and Zen and a Bullet in the Head".

Pretty drat old by now, but so is the golden age of HK cinema, so.

ili
Jul 26, 2003


Malign schemes is an amusing name, it sounds like the sort of thing Dick Dastardly and Muttley get up to.

quote:

Quanzhong An, who is a businessman operating in Queens, New York, and the majority shareholder of a hotel in Flushing, acted as the primary U.S.-based liaison for the Provincial Commission’s targeting of John Doe-1 and his family members, including his son, John Doe-2, both in the United States and in the PRC. As part of the scheme, various PRC-based conspirators forced a relative in the PRC (John Doe-3) to travel from the PRC to the United States in September 2018 to meet with John Doe-2 and convey threats that were intended to coerce John Doe-1’s return to the PRC. Yuan – John Doe-3’s superior at the PRC’s State Administration of Taxation – escorted John Doe-3 from the PRC to the United States, under the guise of a visit with a tour group.

This is somewhat less amusing.

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Grand Fromage posted:

Participation in Malign Schemes is a pretty good charge though, I like when they have fun names.

eSports Chaebol posted:

It’s honestly a lot like the crazy translations of Chinese crimes

lol this was my 1st thought, too - the US federal equivalent of "picking quarrels"

On another note - I'm scared to ask but what has been the Very Online tankies reaction to Xi's power move over the weekend?

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Chinathread: Participation in Malign Schemes

PITY BONER
Oct 18, 2021

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

"maybe I'll find it at the sketchy used VHS rental place" HK movies
If you don't mind slumming it, most, or maybe even all the popular HK films can found on free pirate streaming sites (and some on archive.org, including The Ghost Snatchers). Video quality is going to be hit or miss, but some of the category 3 video streaming sites will have quality at least as good at the original VHS can offer.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Chinathread: The Eternal Evil of Asia (1995)

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
^^^
Yes please


PITY BONER posted:

If you don't mind slumming it, most, or maybe even all the popular HK films can found on free pirate streaming sites (and some on archive.org, including The Ghost Snatchers). Video quality is going to be hit or miss, but some of the category 3 video streaming sites will have quality at least as good at the original VHS can offer.
Coincidentally, the "Sex and Zen & a bullet in the head" book is also available to borrow from archie.org: https://archive.org/details/sexzenbulletinhe00hamm/page/n3/mode/2up

Interestingly though, not in other usual places though.

I did see "Hong Kong Neo Noir" as well which is a newer and obviously differently focused book. Haven't read it: https://www.amazon.com/Hong-Neo-Noir-Edinburgh-Studies-Asian-ebook/dp/B07CN83N65

Marshal Prolapse posted:

It is barely scratching the surfaces
Yeah. Even of that particular film.


The Hong Kong Film Net twitter is fantastic btw. This was retweeted by them and yeah I've seen the movie (Tiger on the beat)

https://twitter.com/HeadExposure/status/1570111744642531337

mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Oct 25, 2022

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Ok, I need a top 50 "maybe I'll find it at the sketchy used VHS rental place" HK movies. At least as cheesy as the early Jackie Chan stuff, and hopefully exactly as bad as the Ghost Snatchers thing I just witnessed. Please share with me your poorly dubbed or badly subtitled HK masterpieces.

Oh boy this might be a while. :) I’ll start seeing what I can find on YouTube.

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

sticksy posted:

On another note - I'm scared to ask but what has been the Very Online tankies reaction to Xi's power move over the weekend?

As one of the wumao tankies myself I don't think it makes sense as a Saddamesque power move. Xi let him vote but then purged him publicly, for the foreign public only, not the Chinese public, at the closing ceremony? Maybe Xi didn't want him to come at all and planned on just citing "health problems" but Hu insisted on coming anyway--and either really he did have health problems, or else Xi got fed up with him and had him removed publicly as rebuke for not getting the message. The actual power move would be implicitly putting the lack of decorum on Hu's shoulders. Even in the latter case though I still really doubt it was all a setup. It's not the CCP style and it's not Xi's style.

It's still a bad look because Xi is obviously going to buck the anti-gerontocracy rules soon enough though lol

A ton of the articles saying it's an obvious power move also mentioned Li Keqiang being ousted from the Standing Committee--an actual news story with implications for Chinese power dynamics--which got glossed over by essentially lying and saying he was removed as Premier without mentioning that he had already announced his retirement at the end of his term.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Nothing is ever done against style, until it suddenly is and it's now the new style. How do you think the cultural revolution started?

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ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
no, the real power move was this part of the speech:

quote:

Comrades,

Ten years have passed since the Party’s 18th National Congress. The past decade marked three major events of great immediate importance and profound historical significance for the cause of the Party and the people: We embraced the centenary of the Communist Party of China; we ushered in a new era of socialism with Chinese characteristics; and we eradicated absolute poverty and finished building a moderately prosperous society in all respects, thus completing the First Centenary Goal. These were historic feats - feats accomplished by the Communist Party of China and the Chinese people striving in unity, feats that will be forever recorded in the Chinese nation's history, and feats that will profoundly influence the world.

A decade ago this was the situation we faced:

Great achievements had been secured in reform, opening up, and socialist modernization, and notable advances had been made in the great new project of Party building. All this had created solid foundations, favorable conditions, and key underpinnings for our continued progress.

At the same time, however, a number of prominent issues and problems-some of which had been building for years and others which were just emerging- demanded urgent action.

Inside the Party, there were many issues with respect to upholding the Party’s leadership, including a lack of clear understanding and effective action as well as a slide toward weak, hollow, and watered-down Party leadership in practice. Some Party members and officials were wavering in their political conviction. Despite repeated warnings, pointless formalities, bureaucratism, hedonism, and extravagance persisted in some localities and departments. Privilege-seeking mindsets and practices posed a serious problem, and some deeply shocking cases of corruption had been uncovered.

China’s economy was beset by acute structural and institutional problems. Development was imbalanced, uncoordinated, and unsustainable, and the traditional development model could no longer keep us moving forward. Some deep-seated problems in institutions and barriers built by vested interests were becoming more and more apparent. Some people lacked confidence in the socialist political system with Chinese characteristics, and, all too often, we saw laws being ignored or not being strictly enforced. Misguided patterns of thinking such as money worship, hedonism, egocentricity, and historical nihilism were common, and online discourse was rife with disorder.

All this had a grave impact on people’s thinking and the public opinion environment.

Our work to ensure the people’s wellbeing was fraught with weak links. Tightening resource and environmental constraints and environmental pollution were pronounced. The systems for safeguarding national security were inadequate, and our capacity for responding to various major risks was insufficient. Many shortcomings were affecting the modernization of national defense and the military.

The institutions and mechanisms for implementing the policy of One Country, Two Systems in Hong Kong and Macao were not well-developed, and China faced grave challenges to its national security.

These were just some of the problems we faced. Back then, many people, both in and outside of our Party, were worried about the future of the Party and the country.

and Hu is of course obliged to just sit there and clap this guy trashing his record

the domestic/foreign disparate coverage is readily explainable in that this is really an unengaged/engaged filter, knowing that the media environment in China is not really hermetically sealed

ronya fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Oct 25, 2022

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