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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

some plague rats posted:

malignant homo

lmfao

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
mnc

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

mods please rename me malignant homo

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

gay conjoined twin that takes control of your body from your rear end

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

gayphex twin

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

AnimeIsTrash posted:

gayphex twin

Come to daddy. no changes

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

yeah this was really great, i might need to clip that to send to my dad every time he asks why people are descending in crazy conspiracism

I mean the root causes are obvious to everyone (I'd hope) but likening a shared reality to a public good that has been depleted (and he didn't mention it but has essentially been privatized) is a framing that I've always felt but never heard articulated. He in three minutes was able to explain the crisis, lay out why it's important, and make a strong argument as to where culpability lies in a way that someone who hadn't given it a lot of thought can completely internalize. I was genuinely moved by it.

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
People are just trying to make sense of the independent unconnected discrete events that constitute history by noticing patterns we are politely asked to ignore

tazjin
Jul 24, 2015


the Lex Fridman podcast episode with Kanye West is loving wild

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

tazjin posted:

the Lex Fridman podcast episode with Kanye West is loving wild

He's really hurt people turned their back on him and that the Jews let a quasi-jewboi with a ten inch dick get with kim

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

LastInLine posted:

I haven't finished the new ALAB but Andy talking about the epistemological crisis at 43:30 was wonderful. Might be my favorite moment of the entire series.

Big same. I dig the Hyperlight Drifter synths in the background

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


breitbart reviews chapo, and the author seems to like them quite a bit

also big lol at felix talking to breitbart (he's quoted as talking to the writer) but not the NY Times — speaking of which, this one is much fairer than that nellie bowles hit piece from 2020 lmao

https://twitter.com/EmmaJoNYC/status/1585043068360982528

quote:

Morris: Chapo Pilled in Times Square

Chapo Trap House, a “dirtbag left” podcast hosted by Will Menaker, Matt Christman and Felix Biederman, has emerged as a political and cultural mainstay, performing live at a 1,500-person venue in Times Square — and highlighting how far conservatives have to go to compete for cultural influence.

The show — which saw upward of a thousand attendants last week — was opened by an alt rock musical performance, followed by a standup set, before the main event, a chat with Chapo featuring a cold open of an anime cartoon of Hunter Biden hitting a crack pipe.

Referred to as a “cult podcast” shortly after its 2016 launch, Chapo Trap House exists to comment on politics and mock beltway figures, named after El Chapo, but meant to sound like the title of a rap mixtape.

Attendants, paying $60 for a ticket and $30 for a plastic cup of wine, were not what an observer through media of the millennial progressive left would imagine; the crowd was mostly young professionals, looking like they just stepped out from their office on Sixth Avenue or Wall Street.

$200 jeans, $400 jacket, $1,000 iPhone, $0 in real assets — there is a new proletariat: well put together, earning decent money, but also acutely aware of the hurdles they face that their parents never did — social and economic leftism is their gospel.

These champagne revolutionaries are similar to their predecessors in that they are certainly resentful of the circumstances, of who they view as the elites with real influence, corporate masters and corrupt politicians, and the show expressed that disdain in perhaps the most devastating way — scathing mocking.

The theme of the talk was heckling corporate media, from Fox News’ Tucker Carlson to the New York Times’ Maggie Haberman.

Tucker had recently called out Chapo for allegedly not pushing back on blind support and escalation for Ukraine — to which the guys accused Fox’s producers of not listening to the show, dryly reminding the audience, “We said the war between Russia and Ukraine is a war between the two worst countries.”

In front of an unflatteringly lit and unforgiving projection of an image of the star Times reporter, Maggie Haberman’s new Trump book, Confidence Man, got trashed for sensationalizing boring details about the former president as some sort of journalistic accomplishment, as the Times does.

The Chapo guys also took shots at characters outside of legacy media — “data guru” boy wonder David Shor (who has a rose emoji in his Twitter bio) got hit for a hosting a cringe “Burning Man” themed party; and The American Conservative’s Rod Dreher got hit for writing a piece that, to be fair, comes off unintentionally but obviously gay, which led the entertainers into speculation about his sexuality for a portion of the night.

The audience exploded as Trap House tore Dreher apart, reading a passage out loud:

quote:

I think back to the all-male dorm I lived in during my last two years of high school. Think of a dorm full of 100 high school juniors and seniors, in the early 1980s. Imagine the pent-up sexual desire. There were a handful of guys who were out, or semi-out, as gay, and nobody thought anything of it. I remember a couple of them took advantage of the dorm administration’s inability to recognize what was happening to get themselves assigned a room together, even though they were quietly a couple. A bunch of us envied them, and all the sex they must be having. The thing is, the only thing preventing any of the rest of us from doing the same thing was the internalized taboo against gay sex.

The “dirtbag” “Bernie Bro” progressive left is broadly anti-establishment, anti-capitalist, and anti-war. That opposition culminates in a fervency for social issues and what it sees as “structural injustices” in society along race, gender and sexuality lines — similar to the obsession with abortion in the left-wing generation before it. It’s most prominent observation though is that economic prospects for younger generations are bleak, especially in comparison with those of the generations before them, and is acutely aware of the gaping income inequality and shrinking middle class that characterizes the American economic landscape.

For readers new to this subculture, the dirtbag left isn’t Joy Reid with a sense of humor. Their ideology is thoughtful and often well-informed, despite being misguided in the opinion of this website’s editorial perspective. These people don’t own anything and pay, in some cases depending on where they live, around 50% of their income to taxes — they don’t understand why they shouldn’t get healthcare and tuition paid, and why they pay for weapons for foreign nations instead.

It doesn’t totally come as a surprise that bourgeois millennials living virtually in serfdom want socialized healthcare and education — based on their circumstance, and the fact that they have never lived under socialist systems, it makes sense — especially after the 2008 bailouts when they watched Wall Street get better hookers while their parents lost their home. And their sentiments and economic ideas are worth watching, because millennials happen to be the largest generation group in the U.S.

Like the populist right, they often have equal or more disdain for the establishment of their own side — who they see as an obstacle to creating a party in their image — as they have for their ideological counterparts.

Despite the Democrat party currently being in control of the White House and Congress, in a text message to Breitbart News, Biederman said he believed “the left” is “not just out of power, but very far away from it.”

“I can’t see Democrats nationalizing the medical system, nor meaningfully penalizing any other industry that’s taking advantage of now pliant and beaten down people in this country,” he said.

The Times wrote a piece on Chapo during the 2020 election that quoted them calling Biden supporters “gelatinous 100-year-olds,” Buttigieg “a bloodless asexual,” and Bloomberg a “midget gremlin.”

At the event there was barely, if any, talk of policy, issues, or elections. There was no data presented, no statistics, no wonk. The event was cool, the presenters were punk — it was in typical Chapo form, the message was clear and no explanation was necessary: we’re laughing at you, and gently caress off.

“Its weird to me to think about the fact that the show not only still exists, but is doing as well as it is 6 years later,” Biederman told Breitbart News of his show that launched in 2016 — at the peak of the anti-establishment sentiment sweeping America and much of the West. “We started in the exact perfect time and place for a show like ours, but the fact that things are still going as strongly even after the collapse of Bernie 2020, which was one of our reasons to exist, is insane.”

As a right-wing populist media observer in the live audience, the rise and staying power of Chapo does not seem insane at all.

The trio has evidently come to understand that populism, on the left and the right, is a bigger movement than any one politician — it has a broader message, a sentiment, a philosophy, sometimes even an aesthetic — it’s a rebel culture.

The show earns over $160,000 per month from almost 37,000 subscribers on Patreon, according to public data, seeing a massive spike in earnings since 2020 that has held since.

“We’ve been really lucky to have the listenership we have in that sense, they’ve been incredibly faithful,” Biederman continued. “But I think part of that is because the show is made primarily to entertain and be a funny, enjoyable part of a listener’s commute, before pretty much anything else.”

In that humble statement lies a quite profound clue as to how Chapo has found its place as a cultural leader alongside a political megaphone — they’re not lecturing, they’re not hectoring, preaching or politicking, they’re being people who are just…likable. And their humor, although political, is really rooted in making statements of observations that are true.

Whether the listener agrees with their message doesn’t matter. All of a sudden you feel like you’re hanging out with friends, and if you’re a young populist yourself, you identify with them — any disagreeing somehow falls to the wayside — just like that, you’re Chapo pilled.

Wraith of J.O.I. has issued a correction as of 16:40 on Oct 26, 2022

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

quote:

“We’ve been really lucky to have the listenership we have in that sense, they’ve been incredibly faithful,” Biederman continued. “But I think part of that is because the show is made primarily to entertain and be a funny, enjoyable part of a listener’s commute, before pretty much anything else.”

In that humble statement lies a quite profound clue as to how Chapo has found its place as a cultural leader alongside a political megaphone — they’re not lecturing, they’re not hectoring, preaching or politicking, they’re being people who are just…likable.

so they didn't interview matt

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
horseshoe theory confirmed

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

i say swears online posted:

so they didn't interview matt

they did, but it was weird apocalyptic mid-divorce Matt, published under the Wisconsonian Crime vertical

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

some plague rats posted:

oh yeah he has some Opinions. They give him poo poo on cum town for walking around with a copy of irreversible damage which is an insane hate screed against trans people.

:psyduck:

Doesn’t he exclusively date them?

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Frosted Flake posted:

:psyduck:

Doesn’t he exclusively date them?

It's not implausible that a man would have a trans fetish and hate trans people (or at least the trans people who don't conform to the fetish).

And by "not implausible" I mean "it happens all the time"

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Frosted Flake posted:

:psyduck:

Doesn’t he exclusively date them?

date, as in, truck stop bathroom stall

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Frosted Flake posted:

:psyduck:

Doesn’t he exclusively date them?

Chasers are some of the most hosed up people in the world lol

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
be mindful ian has trypophobia, because he sees creepy images of people with holes in their heads

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

though this was a good interview with adam curtis on traumazone and current politics, i hope chapo has him on because he seems to be vibing with a lot of what matt has been saying for the past year or so (at one point he says we're not going to get fascism because that's mass politics, and we're not doing that anymore)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=663vLIYBcpI

come hang out in the thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4014909

they've had him on for his other releases so i'd expect a curtis interview in the future

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

Honest Thief posted:

be mindful ian has trypophobia, because he sees creepy images of people with holes in their heads

It is cool that if you google it to find out what it is you're immediately beset with fake images designed to make you have it

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

Futanari Damacy posted:

It is cool that if you google it to find out what it is you're immediately beset with fake images designed to make you have it

that's exactly it, it's a self inflected "condition" people go out their way to find out the worst images and be like yeah i got a phobia

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Honest Thief posted:

that's exactly it, it's a self inflected "condition" people go out their way to find out the worst images and be like yeah i got a phobia

lol i forgot the multiple examples brought up and he was like "nonono it's very specific"

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Honest Thief posted:

that's exactly it, it's a self inflected "condition" people go out their way to find out the worst images and be like yeah i got a phobia

freddie was right

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Futanari Damacy posted:

It is cool that if you google it to find out what it is you're immediately beset with fake images designed to make you have it

That was one of the first big photoshop threads here. It mostly devolved into putting lotus seed pods on things.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

One of the best reveals about Ian was when Recine said the documentary he watched about Michael Brown was the Candace Owens one.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

AnimeIsTrash posted:

One of the best reveals about Ian was when Recine said the documentary he watched about Michael Brown was the Candace Owens one.
lmfao

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

AnimeIsTrash posted:

One of the best reveals about Ian was when Recine said the documentary he watched about Michael Brown was the Candace Owens one.

BLACK LEADERS

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

black-owned businesses?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

breitbart reviews chapo, and the author seems to like them quite a bit

also big lol at felix talking to breitbart (he's quoted as talking to the writer) but not the NY Times — speaking of which, this one is much fairer than that nellie bowles hit piece from 2020 lmao

https://twitter.com/EmmaJoNYC/status/1585043068360982528

The former Chapo reply guys who went reactionary when Felix never acknowledged them must be devastated right now. The media they've switched too is telling them to be more like the Chapos again.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Good 5-4 this week about the independent state legislature hell our nation is staring down, and as a Detroit Lions fan I really empathize with Peter's comment on how "if my team can't win, then the next best thing is watching my rivals suffer".

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

breitbart reviews chapo, and the author seems to like them quite a bit

also big lol at felix talking to breitbart (he's quoted as talking to the writer) but not the NY Times — speaking of which, this one is much fairer than that nellie bowles hit piece from 2020 lmao

https://twitter.com/EmmaJoNYC/status/1585043068360982528

Why waste time and effort trying to be culturally relevant when you hold all of the meaningful levers of power?

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


C-Euro posted:

Why waste time and effort trying to be culturally relevant when you hold all of the meaningful levers of power?

conservatives want to win the culture war that's all they ever fuckin talk about

Atrocious Joe posted:

The former Chapo reply guys who went reactionary when Felix never acknowledged them must be devastated right now. The media they've switched too is telling them to be more like the Chapos again.

i thought they were all doing coke and going to church? i might be getting my online politics freaks mixed up tho

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

quote:

Whether the listener agrees with their message doesn’t matter. All of a sudden you feel like you’re hanging out with friends, and if you’re a young populist yourself, you identify with them — any disagreeing somehow falls to the wayside — just like that, you’re Chapo pilled.

This is like, every dumb joke that gets brought up any time someone says anything about the podcasts stuck together and stated earnestly.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

conservatives want to win the culture war that's all they ever fuckin talk about

Just change the dang culture then, I dunno. There's more than one way to win that war, this is Civ not Starcraft.

I just don't think conservatives can be broadly appealing on a cultural level but smarter people than me have probably written a lot about that already.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Kunster posted:

This is like, every dumb joke that gets brought up any time someone says anything about the podcasts stuck together and stated earnestly.

brietbart writer turned into a literal parasocialist

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


i say swears online posted:

brietbart writer turned into a literal parasocialist

felix's best chance to bag a leggy blonde conservative

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
CTH makes $160k a month + tour revenue?

What the gently caress

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

err posted:

CTH makes $160k a month + tour revenue?

What the gently caress

the adam friedland show earns $137,000/month

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selec
Sep 6, 2003

err posted:

CTH makes $160k a month + tour revenue?

What the gently caress

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