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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Like we need a way to control the power of rich people and that involves taking money off them, we don't need a way to figure out if people deserve enough food to eat or a roof over their heads.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
An institution does what it's incentivised to do. An institution with means-testing is incentivised to exclude applicants so it doesn't spend money, time and resources on them. As I've said many times before, that's just not a helpful mindset to promote in a vital social safety net, which is why, say, the NHS doesn't do it.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
People in power don't regard taxation as sufficient means testing to achieve "fairness" because they're taught that taxes are supposed to be avoided.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

lmao at Braverman being given another Home X Portfolio

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Yea pensioners all get £9k a year, (well please ignore how NI works means there are those who don't have enough years of contributions and don't), but thats counted as taxable income. if their others pensions brings them into a tax bracket, they pay tax, if not they are untaxed.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Bleak lol:

https://twitter.com/theousherwood/status/1585174780776312832?s=46&t=wHkOnbcXSaHmYqNNdbwo1w

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Just try not being gay, it's easy loads of people try not being gay all their lifes and it doesn't do them any harm.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

it was already a big “gently caress you” by qatar buying the votes that it’ll be an even bigger gently caress you when they start arresting fans because “what you gonna do about it”

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

James, cleverly strikes again.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Jel Shaker posted:

it was already a big “gently caress you” by qatar buying the votes that it’ll be an even bigger gently caress you when they start arrestingenslaving fans because “what you gonna do about it”

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

keep punching joe posted:

Just try not being gay, it's easy loads of people try not being gay all their lifes and it doesn't do them any harm.

You can think of it as a nostalgic trip to England and Wales before 1967 or Scotland and Northern Ireland before 1981-82! :britain:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Well if we're taking a trip to England in 1966 that can only mean one thing lads

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

Rarity posted:

Well if we're taking a trip to England in 1966 that can only mean one thing lads

Beatlemania? Or did people in England stop giving a poo poo by then?

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

William Bear posted:

Beatlemania? Or did people in England stop giving a poo poo by then?

THAT'S WHEN IT CAME HOME

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Rarity posted:

Well if we're taking a trip to England in 1966 that can only mean one thing lads

Labour landslide!!!

Oh... you mean... not a gay or black person in sight anywhere.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Rarity posted:

Well if we're taking a trip to England in 1966 that can only mean one thing lads
Writing the n word on people's houses so much that Malcolm X says we're more racist than the Klan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFeGEi74Z5E

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

JEEEREEEMYYY

https://twitter.com/easypoliticsUK/status/1585233064657096705?t=rycpWqx8Z3B-AH2130wZ5A&s=19

CORRRBINNN

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

He's got you there Keith

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Keith Starmer, known Corbyn fan.

But that is frustrating, not only did Starmer support Corbyn's rival in the leadership, he once resigned in protest at his leadership, and then had him suspended from the party (and refused to overturn it).

There's just no support at all, but a statement like that is just broadcast unchecked.

Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Oct 26, 2022

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

last labour government to now be but didn’t you support jeremy until we are all dead from climate change

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Who was Rishi Sunak supporting back then? :thunk:

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Sunak has a 1-2 punch against Starmer of 'was on Corbyns cabinet'-'openly broken all pledges from leadership race' to alienate Starmer from everyone who might vote for him so he's really in trouble.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

The year is 2183, the earth is a blasted hellscape and surviving remnants of mankind have been forced to the poles in order to escape the boiling wastes near the equator. Authoritarian corporatism nevertheless maintained its control over societies and democracy was long discarded as worthless and inefficient. 50% of the population are the police who patrol the other 50%. The 1% live 4 miles above the paupers.

In one such ivory tower, a trillionaire stubs his toe, infuriated he screams "JORMBLY




CRALMBS"

and dies from a rage-induced stroke.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Looking forward to PMQs 2050 when the leader of the opposition is attacked for being in the cabinet of someone who was in the cabinet of someone who stood in the same room as jeremy corbyn one time

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Tesseraction posted:

The year is 2183, the earth is a blasted hellscape and surviving remnants of mankind have been forced to the poles in order to escape the boiling wastes near the equator. Authoritarian corporatism nevertheless maintained its control over societies and democracy was long discarded as worthless and inefficient. 50% of the population are the police who patrol the other 50%. The 1% live 4 miles above the paupers.

In one such ivory tower, a trillionaire stubs his toe, infuriated he screams "JORMBLY




CRALMBS"

and dies from a rage-induced stroke.

The 5th Tory PM this week blames the country's meagre water supplies on the last Labour government. The Conservatives have been in power for 73 years

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Galaxy O'Brain takes another to the chin https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1585267637512294400

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Eh, I think Starmer's fair game there: whenever he comes out with a variant on: "You're saying this now but previously you said that", the target can reasonably come back with: "So how come you supported Corbyn for PM not so long ago but now you don't think he's even fit to be in your party? What changed?"

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
In more grim but unsurprising news, turns out that our immigration facilities are still complete poo poo:

https://twitter.com/bbcmarkeaston/status/1585214546620583937?s=46&t=wHkOnbcXSaHmYqNNdbwo1w

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

and on the pedestal these words appear:
"can we just stop being shits to each other for five minutes"
also the statue appeared to have been bombed, stabbed, graffittied, toppled and set fire to repeatedly

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

*puce red, every muscle and tendon in my face straining* JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMBLE

https://twitter.com/jewdas/status/1585247234299678720





CRAMBLY

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
When he dies the shitlibs and right wingers are gonna cadaver synod him then dismember his body and send them to the four corners of the world

So that they can finally be at peace and he, The Greatest Satan, may not

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Is the difference that one of them said that antisemitism is as serious a problem as any other form of bigotry and the other said that Jews control the music industry with their mind lasers?

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Darth Walrus posted:

In more grim but unsurprising news, turns out that our immigration facilities are still complete poo poo:

https://twitter.com/bbcmarkeaston/status/1585214546620583937?s=46&t=wHkOnbcXSaHmYqNNdbwo1w

There was a diptheria outbreak just the other day at that centre. It was designed to house 1000 people, but currently has over 3000. It's a literal concentration camp.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

Is the difference that one of them said that antisemitism is as serious a problem as any other form of bigotry and the other said that Jews control the music industry with their mind lasers?

I actually am half-way through the Piers Morgan interview with him and it's genuinely fascinating in how unhinged it gets.

Morgan asks him about anti-Semitism, he starts talking about a 14 year old girl he thought was hot. Morgan glosses over this, either to avoid having to call the police or because he privately agrees.

When asked if he could see how if Morgan had said the same things about black people that Kanye had said about Jewish people that surely he could see why it was bad, West replied that Jewish businessmen have raped him, and then later claimed that White Supremacy was invented by The Jews.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

At one point he says because he's creative if you want a dinosaur all he needs is a femur.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean yeah that's how it works, that "if" is predicated on the idea that he thinks everyone is equal, but he doesn't.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Whenever there's a rash of people getting angry online about Corbyn this comes back into my head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbTB2J7ZQhY

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

I mean yeah that's how it works, that "if" is predicated on the idea that he thinks everyone is equal, but he doesn't.

Oh yeah at one point Morgan is just like, "that's racist" and West smiles and says, "yes, it is"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The JC article is its own flavour of loving unhinged.

quote:

It was another completely normal week here in America. In California, neo-Nazis rallied to the cause of the way-out Kanye West and hung banners from a freeway bridge, saying “Kanye is right about the Jews.” In Washington, DC, the January 6 committee summoned Donald Trump, just before next week’s midterms. In a world of his own, President Biden said that it was “immoral” for states to restrict children’s access to puberty blockers and sex-change surgery.

loving Joe Biden spending time on trivial matters like "state medical discrimination" instead of weighing in on the latest celeb to have a racist conspiracy meltdown in public.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Clearly for the JC "never again" means keeping the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft from ever happening again.

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