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Hixson posted:Hell yeah dude, good choice. Sevatar is a blender. Stick him in an assault transport with pretty much anything and you have a solid core for your list. Thanks for the input. I've already backed off Contenkar a little because they don't seem like they're great against other Terminators. Infantry, sure, but as you say I've already got guys who can do that.
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Getting deeper into the lore, wow Magnus really did nothing wrong
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# ? Oct 22, 2022 21:14 |
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Yep. I haven't read a ton the BL stuff, but Magnus and his sons are one of the more tragic story archs Their relative power, along with legions like the Iron Hands, makes it clear why Horus had them targeted for being removed from the war as quickly as possible
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# ? Oct 22, 2022 22:19 |
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As an Iron Hands player...
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# ? Oct 22, 2022 22:50 |
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It's cool, you can collect your entire legion in like two boxes. Feel bad for ultramarines.
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# ? Oct 22, 2022 23:10 |
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Finally played for the first time today. My god the Mhara Gal was disgusting, he blew up a double fist contemptor in one charge. If a unit has Chosen Warriors but no leader like Gal Vorbak, do you just elect one model to accept a challenge?
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 08:32 |
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War and Pieces posted:Getting deeper into the lore, wow Magnus really did nothing wrong Magnus was blinded by hubris, consorted with demons, and and generally was a sketchy little poo poo. Magnus did plenty wrong, it's just that Big E and Horus are worse. EDIT: There's a conversation between Vulkan and Magnus in the latest Siege of Terra novel which rips apart Magnus's victim complex, this was posted in the Black Library thread: Shroud posted:These are from a conversation in the Webway, in the moments between physical blows Gravitas Shortfall fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Oct 23, 2022 |
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Pinwiz11 posted:As an Iron Hands player... I know your pain
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 12:47 |
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Magnus did EVERYTHING wrong, and is too arrogant to admit it. Kid has a victim complex a mile wide. Hell, when he is forced to face the reality that Horus was the one who orchestrated The Burning of Prospero, he just cries even more about how it was still Dad’s fault, and Russ is a meanie, etc. etc.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 19:40 |
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Broken Record Talk posted:Magnus did EVERYTHING wrong, and is too arrogant to admit it. Kid has a victim complex a mile wide.
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 19:48 |
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War and Pieces posted:It IS dad's fault and Russ IS a meanie
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 05:18 |
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That was a good point though how did Vulkan know all that. I'm going to guess perpetual bullshit.
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Eediot Jedi posted:That was a good point though how did Vulkan know all that. I'm going to guess perpetual bullshit. The implication is that he's being partially controlled by the Emperor, and that's who Magnus is really having the conversation with.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 09:06 |
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I broke out a Knight army for the first time this past Saturday. Not nearly as OP as in first. It turned out 3 hours in that our IW player was doing Haywire wrong, which would have helped to know, but it was a good time all round.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 22:57 |
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yeah knights are quite tame this edition, a dread will eat one for lunch
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 23:58 |
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Okay.... serious question. How do you, or did you, pick which legion or army to play? I cannot decide for the life of me. I honestly can't. I have the starter and I specifically bought a nice 3d printer for this game. I adore the setting, love the game and was a rabid 40k player for years. I can't pick and it's driving me insane. I have tickets for the LVO 30k event and need to get my rear end in gear painting and all that. I always loved Imperial Fist and want to do the reverse colour scheme. The new paints available now vs last time I did a yellow army would make it so much easier!! Yellow shoulder pads and heads with black armor? That's hot!! Then I see the rules. Wtf..... how did that legion rule get through?? I don't want to be "that guy" playing them but I've always loved them as well Okay, Iron Warriors have my favorite black library novel so I'd be good with them. They look, potentially, strong. Evil with lots of shooting Deathguard have a cool paint scheme. Line em up, march up the field playstyle Word Bearers?? The true villains of the whole horus heresy and I get to do script and poo poo all over the models??? That's bad rear end sounding!! But am I playing for fun/ theme or moreso trying to win more matches then I potentionaly lose if all things otherwise are equal? And if so, am I better off taking a specific legion? I don't want to be that douche bag player but i also don't want to handicap myself either too much if I can avoid it
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 05:15 |
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I painted the Betrayal at Calth game in order to play it with painted figures, so that made my decision for me and it means my legions are Ultramarines and Word Bearers
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 07:07 |
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I went with Alpha Legion because I don't know what's going on, so why should my opponent?
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 07:14 |
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During 1.0 I was chasing the things I always wanted when I was into 40k: a traitor legion, the imperial army, the dark mechanicum. For 2.0 I wanted something totally fresh, so I picked a legion few people played that I could take into an interesting direction. WS have been a fun ride because they're a total break from what I was doing before. From gameplay, to color scheme, to theme. Tiny Chalupa posted:But am I playing for fun/ theme or moreso trying to win more matches then I potentionaly lose if all things otherwise are equal? And if so, am I better off taking a specific legion? The most important things: play something you think is cool, something your painting skills will let you achieve to a level you like, and with rules that let you play how you like. Forget about tier lists. Heresy is way less WAACY than 40k and the balance is generally a lot tighter, especially in the early meta, so you're neither gimping yourself nor becoming 'that guy' by simply picking an army. How you play that army, how harsh you make it, and how far from the background you go are the factors that distinguish 'strong list, but cool dude, fun fluffy army' vs 'half painted dickhead who thinks this is 40k'. All the legions you listed can field some harsh poo poo. You don't have to do that though. There's just not that kind of pressure... and if you want to kick dicks with your friends, there's a time and place where you'll agree to take the gloves off.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 07:51 |
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I picked Death Guard because they're easy to paint and made them Loyalists because I wanted Loyalists.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 08:44 |
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Oh... and if you really can't decide between two... do both! Allies are totally a valid way to play the game and a fun way to mix up your army
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Tiny Chalupa posted:I always loved Imperial Fist and want to do the reverse colour scheme. The new paints available now vs last time I did a yellow army would make it so much easier!! Yellow shoulder pads and heads with black armor? Play Imperial Fists
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 11:53 |
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You'll spend much more time painting your dudes than pushing them around.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 12:20 |
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Collect what you want to paint. Look at the armies and see if they work well with the units you want to take. As in, don't collect Scars if you hate assembling and painting bikes. Love tanks? Iron Nouns. No army in 30k, despite wailing and crying, is actually bad or impossible to win with. The armies released so far are solid. This is very Something Awful 30k Players That Go To LVO specific, but a 1250pt Zone Mortalis force is very small and easy to rattle out. If you don't enjoy the paint scheme or play style, move on to another one. I've never not enjoyed a game of 30k, even when losing hard. It's always fun (imo) because of the attitude of the players. It's a slightly janky future historical. The objectively correct answer is Traitor Ultramarines Pride of the Legion with two units of Fulmentarus or a Fury of the Ancients list.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 13:08 |
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I started with World Eaters, and was ultimately defeated by having to paint a ton of white. I definitely think that you should pick an army totally based on the fluff/appearance. If you get too caught up in what's the best at winning games you will just end up with an experience as empty as playing 40k competitively. TTerrible posted:No army in 30k, despite wailing and crying, is actually bad or impossible to win with. The armies released so far are solid.
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Okay.... serious question. How do you, or did you, pick which legion or army to play? I love Iron Warriors thematically, so it was a no brainer for me. Until I already had my HQs, dread, and a few troops and Tyrants painted, at which point it was too late to back out of the second most miserable painting experience in 30k (behind Fists; I actually find white pretty easy, so WS and WE are fine). Haven't quite figured out a way forward yet.
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BULBASAUR posted:Oh... and if you really can't decide between two... do both! Allies are totally a valid way to play the game and a fun way to mix up your army This. My current goal is to supplement my Iron Hands with an allied detachment of Emperor's Children and call the army list "Foreshadowing". It'll be fun!
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 14:13 |
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I picked Ultras because I've been playing Ultras since the 1990s. Then in 2nd I did up Knights because I've always wanted to and Death Guard for their trench/artillery feel.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 14:19 |
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The Emperor's Children are such a great heel faction, and they're surprisingly relatable in non-obvious ways. Preternaturally elite swordsmen, psycho noise marines, and (eventually) sexxy lobster lady daemons? A primarch who's a perfect boob snake? Cool dice from Forgeworld! Resplendent terminators! Read up on factions until something speaks to you. They're all great, but one is going to speak to you.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I definitely think that you should pick an army totally based on the fluff/appearance. But they all look good!
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 15:15 |
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I went with Night Lords because of Aaron Dembski-Bowden's trilogy.
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Cessna posted:But they all look good! Yeah...
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 16:40 |
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Dark Angels were the first Space Marine legion I played when I started the game. The codex was new and the "Marine in Robes" look was like cat-nip to me. They were poorly painted, but taught me a poo poo ton about painting and modeling. I sold them ages ago in a low point in my life. Now that 30k is accessible, it felt a bit nostalgic to come home to the Dork Angles in the end. It helps that the robed look is still fantastic.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:11 |
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For me, coming from games like Bolt Action, I've found focusing an army/legion on a specific event helps both keep me focused and help build out a thematic force. I was originally thinking of doing White Scars themed around them doing sick wheelies over the Lion's Gate Spaceport during the Siege of Terra, for example. But I love the doomed heroics of Istvaan III more so I went with loyalist Emperor's Children. I'm also working on a very small allied detachment of some Luna Wolves that have thrown away the whole Sons of Horus name on account of the virus bombing. Trying to give them a chipping away white paint scheme but with the SoH green underneath is a fun experiment, too. Edit: might as well post some recently completed minis Commissar Canuck fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Oct 27, 2022 |
# ? Oct 27, 2022 04:39 |
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Liber Imperium is coming out soon, right? The road map had it pegged for October and the month's almost over.
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 05:42 |
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Siivola posted:Liber Imperium is coming out soon, right? The road map had it pegged for October and the month's almost over. Supposedly. GW haven't had a great record with books being on time lately though. The contents page has leaked and it looks fun. Sisters of Silence have been expanded a fair bit.
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TTerrible posted:Supposedly. GW haven't had a great record with books being on time lately though. The contents page has leaked and it looks fun. Sisters of Silence have been expanded a fair bit. That's surprising - I would have thought that GW would shrink the Sisters list down to the models in production. I'm excited to see what all of these squads end up being, even if the naming convention is starting to edge into modern 40k Primaris vibes (Sanctioner, Prosecutor, Expurgator). Back in the day I started an Alpha Legion kill team because Coal Black and Heresy parts started existing and I could never get them looking right back in the 3.5 days. Some more secondhand resin and the release of Calth later, gently caress I guess I play Heresy now.
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BirdieBedtime posted:That's surprising - I would have thought that GW would shrink the Sisters list down to the models in production. I'm excited to see what all of these squads end up being, even if the naming convention is starting to edge into modern 40k Primaris vibes (Sanctioner, Prosecutor, Expurgator). Definitely a surprise. I'll be pretty pleased if they can be an army on their own with the new bits. 30k needs more humans.
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 13:07 |
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They had a pretty big list in HH1, I'd love to see them get all their weird crap back along with an identity outside the custodes.
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I could easily be tempted to start a Sisters of Silence army.
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