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yeah path of exile is fun if you like jerking it to spreadsheets
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 16:10 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 21:54 |
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Path of exile is also fun if you just plug it and play and do whatever.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 16:20 |
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Path of exile is not good because it doesn't encourage you to do whatever. There are large leaps in game difficulty and if you're playing for the first time or aren't playing Optimally then you get hit by brick walls of difficulty. it's very inaccessible if you go into a PoE group and say "what should i play" they spit out the dumbest anti-new player unparsable garbage like "seismic ME Totem trapper" and then back it up claiming that build is able to clear 6/6 unmod maps 13% faster than some other bullshit. what the gently caress who talks like that? Diablo 3 says "crusader is fun" and then that's that jokes fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Oct 26, 2022 |
# ? Oct 26, 2022 16:23 |
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Early game poe is too slow dark and boring, late game poe is far far too flashy and rapid.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 16:26 |
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Also that is very true
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 16:26 |
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I put tons of hours in Path of Exile and loved it. The idea of end game maps was pretty brilliant. Also, before the act expansions and the revamps and the power spikes, I think the Piety fight was one of the best designed encounters in an action RPG ever. The only way to beat her (excluding poison) was to keep the pressure on her so her mana shield didn't regen, and everything she did was designed to make it difficult for you to keep the pressure on. Was just extremely well done. Sadly it's bloated now with a bunch of dumb extra poo poo like heists and mines and tower defense and they turned end game maps into stupidly complicated Atlas stuff and it's just not a fun chill out and explode monsters game anymore.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 16:57 |
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jokes posted:Diablo 3 says "crusader is fun" and then that's that This is extremely disingenuous, yes you'll not download PoB for Diablo 3 but if you ask a build for D3 it will be a full set + a bunch of overly specific unique items, some of which you'll have to do the map missions over and over, then itemize them correctly because you need some 50% cooldown threshold for your rotation to even work and the tools to calculate D3 dps aren't even calculators, they're full on simulators. I played RoS for years and I still struggle to remember that RoTG or STE is ORTZ or what each of the 30 sets do, each with their own 30000% increased damage of [some skill]. If you have zero interest in learning either game then "Duelist is fun" is just the same as "Crusader is fun" but if you try to go any further than that then enjoy your season start being ruined because you used your once-per-league gift wrong because you didn't read the thing no one told you and you missed the perfect level 16 to gamble for the unique it'll now take days for you to get while you wonder what the kanai cube and you got lost because you went to the wrong direction in the snow. Also a few hours later you found out your Crusader scales with Thorns? Time to reitemize again. Both games require nothing for you to go on and play the campaign but let's not pretend for a second that the endgame of D3 isn't just if not more obnoxious than PoE's. The main different is that D3 requires a colossal, humongous infodump for 2-3 days per league while PoE is a constant never-ending infodump over years.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:07 |
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I don't think you can even beat the campaign of PoE without looking up an online guide on how to not die instantly to things and the answer is going to be somewhere along the lines of "you hosed up early on when you decided to just play the game without doing sufficient research. respec and use an optimized build"
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:13 |
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Elentor posted:This is extremely disingenuous, yes you'll not download PoB for Diablo 3 but if you ask a build for D3 it will be a full set + a bunch of overly specific unique items, some of which you'll have to do the map missions over and over, then itemize them correctly because you need some 50% cooldown threshold for your rotation to even work and the tools to calculate D3 dps aren't even calculators, they're full on simulators. I played RoS for years and I still struggle to remember that RoTG or STE is ORTZ or what each of the 30 sets do, each with their own 30000% increased damage of [some skill]. Whatever this is is 100% wrong because none of this is "required" and you can have a lot of fun playing single player games where you click monsters without worrying that you're clicking monsters inefficiently. PoE is terrible because it is a slot machine even more brazenly than any other example of the genre imo.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:14 |
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satanic splash-back posted:Whatever this is is 100% wrong because none of this is "required" Elentor posted:Both games require nothing for you to go on and play
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:15 |
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In D3 you can just roll crusader without thinking too hard and unfuck your dumb newbie build later if you decide it's too weak. In PoE you pretty much want to plan for your eventual endgame build from level 1 since respecs cost a significant amount of currency (especially for a new player who is not actually strong enough to farm that currency in endgame yet...) and the passive tree is incredibly huge and complicated. If you just go through it one point at a time without planning ahead or following a build you'll end up gimping your build and either doing 0 damage or getting constantly oneshot or both.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:19 |
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thanks for making me feel smart y'all
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:19 |
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"You can build your character any way you want!" in PoE just means most build abilities and items are apparently trap options and there is an encyclopedia of items you'll need to memorize. The game is built for people whose sole goal is to maximize and optimize numbers, not have fun.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:20 |
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QuarkJets posted:final fantasy tactics is what made me realize that cloud strife is kind of a dipshit loser, but to my credit I didn't know any better because I was like 8 years old I rented tactics as a kid, and to this day have been confused by what the gameplay even IS.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:26 |
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Flowers for QAnon posted:I rented tactics as a kid, and to this day have been confused by what the gameplay even IS. It's dungeons and dragons on a grid, with flanking bonuses tied to attack rolls based on character facing and a more robust casting time system. It even has a character take 3 turns before it dies-dies. e: Every Final Fantasy (and turn-based JRPG) is pretty much just DnD combat without positioning and movement. Final Fantasy Tactics just reintroduces movement and positioning. jokes fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Oct 26, 2022 |
# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:28 |
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A simple sideways glance at poe's sphere grid is recommended; gazing full on often causes insanity
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 17:34 |
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jokes posted:The game is built for people whose sole goal is to maximize and optimize numbers, not have fun. Optimizing numbers IS fun, sometimes.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 20:39 |
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DontMockMySmock posted:Optimizing numbers IS fun, sometimes. Agree with this and I like stat heavy games that don't obscure much.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 21:23 |
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I guess it's fair to say that it can be overdone though. I really like Tales of Maj'Eyal, but looking at items that affect six or seven things by a varying small percentage and trying to figure out which is the better pick can be a drag.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 21:24 |
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The nice thing about tome is that you can do it at a glance once you're familiar with your build's damage types. Yes, the t5 Runed Dragonbone Quarterstaff of Fleet Emperor's Wisdom may give you +15% Dark / +17% Light / +27% Psionics / +2 Cunning / When casting a Nature ability, gain +10% move speed for 3 turns, but! 1) Bro do you even know any spells that do Dark or Light type damage 2) You have Psionics. One spell. You can't gain ranks in it 3) You DO cast Nature spells but you only know like two and +10% move speed isn't a big deal Pass! I know there's a lot to take in, but I think there are mods that will color code the menu text to help your brain process it instantly, too. Or is that in vanilla?
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 21:40 |
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i don't want to sound like a pervert but more video games should have centaurs in them
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 21:52 |
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kntfkr posted:i don't want to sound like a pervert but more video games should have centaurs in them Centaurs with the horse half up-top
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 22:04 |
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jokes posted:Centaurs with the horse half up-top to horny jail with you!
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 22:05 |
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kntfkr posted:i don't want to sound like a pervert but more video games should have centaurs in them Dota had a character called Centuar Warrunner. He has the highest strength gain per level in the game That's all I got
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 22:19 |
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kntfkr posted:i don't want to sound like a pervert but more video games should have centaurs in them imo just make a bootleg uma musume pretty derby but the girls are horses on the bottom half bam instant billionaire
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 23:15 |
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Overwatch has a centaur but it doesn't seem to have helped anything
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 03:08 |
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Centaurs are not cool. Hate to tell you goons. Now weird little half-goat men? All the rage. When will gaming studios learn??
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 03:21 |
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What about a centaur that wears shades and smokes cloves?
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 03:27 |
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Waltzing Along posted:What about a centaur that wears shades and smokes cloves? Centaur can't kickflip. IS THAT COOL TO YOU?? Smoking isn't enough.
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 03:39 |
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Though smoking is extremely cool
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 03:39 |
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Literally A Person posted:Centaur can't kickflip. IS THAT COOL TO YOU?? Smoking isn't enough. Speaking of kickflips, do you know about Jonny Giger? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJLdlQwvuzI This is the latest in a series of vids where he learns (or attempts to learn) Rodney Mullens tricks. It's likely that other than Mullen, Giger is the only person to do some of this stuff.
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 03:48 |
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Literally A Person posted:Centaurs are not cool. Hate to tell you goons. Motaro looks down upon this post
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 04:06 |
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Human genitals between the front legs or no centaurs
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 04:09 |
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X JAKK posted:Human genitals between the front legs or no centaurs
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 04:13 |
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gas thread
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 04:16 |
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Centaurs are immune to gas, sorry
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 04:55 |
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Excelzior posted:gas thread What’s your favorite part of a centaur
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 05:07 |
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Pff. Like centaurs could get anything done these days Call me when you get some dollartars.
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 05:09 |
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Centaureolas
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The Hoof
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