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Scrree posted:1. Export to a smaller, more marginal market that needs less wood. 2. Raise export tariffs so that the "break even" point of your supply and their demand is smaller. 3. Figure out how to tax the shopkeepers running the trade depot and use that money to subsidize your economy. I’m thinking of the Vicky trade system where you said “I want my stockpile to contain X units of Y good, sell any surplus” so I guess having that under dumbass AI capitalist control abstracts that away better. Look, I’m just happy as long as it’s not Vicky 1’s “all machine tools are only sold by Britain, in descending order of prestige”
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Tomn posted:It DOES feel like if anybody’s leaving a review of a complex strategy game like V3 in the first 24 hours of release, odds are decent that they’ve already made up their minds one way or another even before playing. yeah, the deck is already stacked because -people pop off spontaneously about how much they hate the paradox DLC model -vicky 2 has a small but hardcore group of people who want nothing less than a full on remaster, like the NMA folks who refused to accept a FPS fallout -people are going to get mad that the game isn't a wargame or another sick noscope map painting sim -its a really complicated and confusing game getting a solid AA push so people are going to pick it up and bounce off, hard, blaming the game rather than their taste in games
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I almost had an economic collapse trying to pass Proportional Taxes because I repeatedly got the middle class event which forces you to either pass a tax cut or grind the Enact Chance into the dirt lol. My favorite event was when our lawmakers bungled writing the law so badly you have to wonder if they even knew how to put the pen on the paper the right way around. I could either make their entire faction be a laughingstock (and crater reform chances even further) or just blame the leading politician guy. Of course I threw the fucker to the wolves. I'm contemplating restarting, simply because I completely forgot how under-developed the kingdom is. Hannover needs expansion of agriculture, logging operations (we have a lot of forests) and general administration, otherwise the Kingdom of Hannover is basically unable to do anything and the economy will slowly collapse inward. Lessons learned: -Without construction, buildings won't get finished fast enough to keep plugging the holes in your agrarian economy and industrialization is doomed to failure -Without more administration, your ability to use import and export routes is extremely limited. If you ignore this, you will soon have no money to do anything -Trying to create a steel production is nice for a few years, but then everyone is making steel and dumb, backwards Hannover can't actually use all that cheap steel yet, the economy craters even faster then before
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Stairmaster posted:is there a way to move armies during peace time no but you can move them during the build up of a diplomatic play
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There was definitely a faction of people in the PDS forums that were basically “I’ve committed to not liking this game but I’m absolutely going to buy it anyway” that I don’t really get. Like I get if you’re bummed that a sequel to a game you thought might never happen isn’t being developed how you like, but in that case I think I’d just not buy it.
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:I’m going to counter this post with the “I’m rubber and you’re glue” argument being made here: I'm going to counter this post by saying calling people boot lickers is bad.
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Libluini posted:My favorite event was when our lawmakers bungled writing the law so badly you have to wonder if they even knew how to put the pen on the paper the right way around. I could either make their entire faction be a laughingstock (and crater reform chances even further) or just blame the leading politician guy. i just back off the attempt and try again later if i'm trying to longshot pass a law at like >20% and it gets bad outcomes
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calling a fascist a bootlicker is fine but calling someone who is being, in your opinion, too enthusiastic about a new video game a bootlicker is twitterbrain
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Impermanent posted:calling a fascist a bootlicker is fine but calling someone who is being, in your opinion, too enthusiastic about a new video game a bootlicker is twitterbrain For real lol.
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:i just back off the attempt and try again later if i'm trying to longshot pass a law at like >20% and it gets bad outcomes I've got a law that is something like -35% to pass because I managed to get both "these people are too stupid to write" and "leader got caught with his mistress" but as long as im trying to pass the law i get all the bonuses from the opposition party since they are happy that we are "trying"
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lol are people really whining about bootlicker, the thinnest possible skin
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If people liked Vicky II I don't get why they wouldn't like this, to be completely honest.
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If I want to attack Netherlands as Belgium do I need a Navy? Or can I just run em down on the land and ignore the water?
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Begun, the reviews wars, have!
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:There’s def a lot of cringy boot licking in here lmao. perhaps post less with spudguns dick in your mouth, although it is very funny that you came in here initially to defend the vicky 2 n word guy and then bought the game anyway (which seems pretty cringy and bootlickery to me?)
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:I've got a law that is something like -35% to pass because I managed to get both "these people are too stupid to write" and "leader got caught with his mistress" but as long as im trying to pass the law i get all the bonuses from the opposition party since they are happy that we are "trying" I've gotten the "Shogun interferes" (to help pass a law) events a couple of times when trying to pass laws that would break the Shogunate's power. I suppose at least intellectuals being upset about the Shogun helping pass the law they want is believable 
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Phigs posted:If I want to attack Netherlands as Belgium do I need a Navy? Or can I just run em down on the land and ignore the water? Depends on if you can ignore the water I suppose
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I really like the game so far and the amount of dopamine it provides me is higher than any possible dissatisfaction brought about by the game’s flaws. in time i should find balance
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Enjoying a consumer product you bought is actually the same as supporting authoritarianism
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sure, it's funny to make fun of the bootlickers now. but when paradox development studio comes for you, and the boot is on YOUR throat, it won't be anymore. and don't say i dind't warn you
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Well, I'm most of the way through a Germany run, and as much as I like the idea of Vicky 3, the simulation as a whole still needs a lot of work. Even in spite of war being much less complex, the AI still can't really handle wars without a shared border (especially intercontinental, wow). Worse, the AI is somehow both too aggressive and too passive, with huge wars being fought over some really weird wargoals, yet things you'd expect big conflicts over (US-Mexico, the Balkans, Japan, China etc.) are left alone. In general, the economy needs a lot of work. As far as I can tell the AI is pretty decent at actually industrializing, but incapable at running a late-game industrial economy. Even in the 20s and 30s, Germany produced 80% (!) of the worlds oil, just with their two tiny oilwells. Mexico was only building their first oilwell around 1925, despite there being a huge demand for oil. As a result of this massive shortage of oil, I could barely develop my industry past a certain point. The early and midgame are pretty well balanced, but the economy runs aground afterwards. Also, land-based trade needs some rebalancing. Even with protected domestic supply selected, and a mercantilist trade policy, the AI will buy all your cloth of grain before your own population has the chance to. Every couple of years, I'd suddenly see this huge spike in radicals, which I later discovered was the fault France importing about 5000 pieces of clothes. I was making hand over fist in tariffs, but the price of clothes had risen so sharply my pops were losing SoL. I know it's the point of the game, but there should be more gradual control over export and import than either raising export tariffs (which the AI will just completely ignore) or immediately resorting to a full embargo. The AI is also bad at handling their internal politics. Early on, somewhere in the 1850's, the UK suffered this huge rebellion, which led to the East India Company declaring independence. The end result was the UK as a minor power at a solid rank 11. That was bad enough, but after losing that rebellion it's, like they just gave up, never fighting any wars to regain lost territory or anything. It's like they laid down and just decided to die. It's a good game, don't get me wrong, but it's still a Paradox release. Curious to see what you all think, it might well be the case that the AI performs relatively well in one game, but it's not able to respond properly to a lot of small weird things compounding oscarthewilde fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Oct 26, 2022 |
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'It sounded like home.'
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FishBulbia posted:I think goons tend to be on the older end of the audience nowadays and have somewhat more realistic expectations
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Every Paradox game opens to mixed reviews but I can imagine that this is going to the be the most mixed of all for new players because there really is no military to speak of. Yeah you can subjugate people but it's about as abstracted as it has ever been in any Paradox game (and that's saying something) and a lot of people who are going to expect EU4 (but with more industry) will be disappointed. Anyways I am enjoying my cringe commie game
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Realistic expectations, or lowered standards? Realistic expectations about what a game can be. Recently people have forgotten Paradox games are essentially board games and expect them to be real life simulators.
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Arrath posted:It's 1848 (and three restarts later) and I've got Chile's GDP up to 3M, an even ratio of radicals to loyalists, and finally can run constructions without a deficit (albeit only two construction sectors), and minor liberalizations of laws. I only ran my credit up to 75% of its limit! Next up: steel production. The serious potential for sulfur mines down here also has me considering chemical plants and/or explosives. This focus on economy-ing has resulted in Argentina racing ahead of me in the colonization game of Patagonia though, unfortunately. I need to look into what laws or techs I could pursue to increase my colonial institution and win this race next time! What worked great for me as Chile was using Bolivia as a punching bag. They start out with Peru as a puppet, and they hold a province that Brazil has a claim on. Brazil rivaled them pretty early on, so I started a diplomatic play to transfer Peru over to me, then swayed Brazil to my side by offering to return their claimed province. Lucky for me, Bolivia backed down after Brazil joined me, so I got Peru as puppet very early on. This helps a ton since it more than doubles your army and pays you a lot of money. With that extra manpower I puppeted Ecuador next, which was an easy war due to Peruvian troops. Both Peru and Ecuador also love Chile, so they immediately became loyal subjects, even after warring with them. And finally, as soon as the truce with Bolivia ran out I made another play to puppet them. Since they still had the province with the Brazilian claim on it, Brazil was once again on my side. This time Bolivia managed to pull Argentina in on their side, but that only lead to me getting some additional war reperations in the end. That leaves me so powerful that I can easily puppet Argentina after the truce runs out, once again aided by Brazil who at this point are my bestest buddy. So at 1855, I have Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Argentina under me, Brazil loves me and has a trade pact with me, and I am starting to have enough juice in my construction sector to build two things at the same time. So, I am having a lot of fun playing this game, is what I am trying to say here.
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oscarthewilde posted:It's a good game, don't get me wrong, but it's still a Paradox release. ty for finding flaws without being deranged about it
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Two Beans posted:If you think the reviews are fun, check out the Steam community discussions. game has too much micro. i want the version back where i have to struggle with the AI building dumb poo poo and bankrupting themselves constantly while i chase pawns all over the map
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Schnitzler posted:What worked great for me as Chile was using Bolivia as a punching bag. They start out with Peru as a puppet, and they hold a province that Brazil has a claim on. Brazil rivaled them pretty early on, so I started a diplomatic play to transfer Peru over to me, then swayed Brazil to my side by offering to return their claimed province. Lucky for me, Bolivia backed down after Brazil joined me, so I got Peru as puppet very early on. This helps a ton since it more than doubles your army and pays you a lot of money. Oh man, nice! I'm now heavily fighting the urge to restart and try this poo poo out. Tiler Kiwi posted:why are trade routes inactive sometimes The other party of the trade restricting the good, afaict. Typically happens with guns/artillery/warships that I'm trying to import when the country selling them to me goes to war and decides those things are needed domestically.
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Two Beans posted:If you think the reviews are fun, check out the Steam community discussions. I'm trying to figure out why the Steam forum for this game is so loving insane, does it just have no moderation and so the crazies end up there by default?
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CuddleCryptid posted:Every Paradox game opens to mixed reviews but I can imagine that this is going to the be the most mixed of all for new players because there really is no military to speak of. Yeah you can subjugate people but it's about as abstracted as it has ever been in any Paradox game (and that's saying something) and a lot of people who are going to expect EU4 (but with more industry) will be disappointed. If there's no military gameplay then how come I don't understand how it works smart guy I'm baffled that people have made it to 1917 when the game's only been out 27 hours
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RabidWeasel posted:I'm trying to figure out why the Steam forum for this game is so loving insane, does it just have no moderation and so the crazies end up there by default? Valve barely moderates what games are sold on Steam, let alone posts on their forums. 
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RabidWeasel posted:I'm trying to figure out why the Steam forum for this game is so loving insane, does it just have no moderation and so the crazies end up there by default? Yeah and all the steam forums have those guys. The power of god is on your side though, if somebody is so stupid that they think Victoria 1 or 2 simulates a freemarket, and that by playing such a game they are reinforcing the legitimacy of their own ideology, then they were put on this earth to chew crayons and aren't very threatening imo
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Mantis42 posted:oof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLDoD2PIv74 I kinda saw this coming after the changes Wiz made to Stellaris. There were a lot of things that sounded GREAT on paper (pops! end of tiles! districts!), but which resulted in micro-intensive gameplay that was impossible for the AI to interact with.
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ItohRespectArmy posted:perhaps post less with spudguns dick in your mouth, although it is very funny that you came in here initially to defend the vicky 2 n word guy and then bought the game anyway (which seems pretty cringy and bootlickery to me?) Another fragile ego in here, and this guy thinks that because I liked the way spud made V2 mp videos suddenly I must have a hate boner V3. Believe me dipshit, I really really want to like V3. And I havent solidly made up my mind. I have played thousands of hours of fuckin paradox games lol. Why would I root against the game? I'm just being honest in a thread about the game and youre in here trying to imply I'm a racist because you have somehow attached your ego to the reception of the game. gently caress you lol
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