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DJ_Mindboggler posted:Is there a way to get obligations from other nations besides opportunistically supporting their diplomatic plays? Two other ways I saw so far are the "take over debt" and "bankroll" diplomatic action. Don't know if there are more. verbal enema posted:When I'm doing import export I want the number to be as high of green as possible right? That makes me money? Doesn't that gently caress up my pops tho? As far as I understand it, Import/Export doesn't make you money directly. The green number at a trade deal is the profit your traders make, at the trade center. You do get a small cut of that if your trade policy allows tariffs, but the rest goes to the owners of the trade center and the workers there. This is then taxed/added to your investment pool in the same way the profits of any other industry are. Basically, it's not you, the state, buying/selling stuff and keeping the money. You just tell the traders working in your country that they should buy/sell stuff on this route. For you, this has different benefits. You can tell them to import cheap grain so grain in your country becomes cheaper, which means your peoples living standard improves because they can buy food cheaper. Or you tell them to export an expensive item that is produced in your state, which makes that item more expensive, which means the producers make more money, so you get more taxes/investment.
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fuf posted:Like what about an "embassy" building that lets you empower an interest group in another country, and get it into Government. And then maybe countries with the same interest groups in Government should be much more willing to work with each other and share market access, form migration treaties, etc. That would be fun. countries with the same IGs in government are more willing to work with each other. market access is tricky because in a lot of cases it's a prelude to making somebody a protectorate so the AI is touchy about it
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How am I supposed to achieve full space gay luxury communism? I mean, that's a long way away, for the moment I'd settle for (some) women's rights and/or labour laws like kids under 10 can't have jobs you assholes. How the gently caress does enacting laws work? E: more precisely, what allows starting the process? Once it gets going I'm more or less understanding the way it works. More or less. The numbers generated might as well be the lotto numbers. Omobono fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Oct 26, 2022 |
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Mister Olympus posted:Has anyone else ran into an "uprising" state winning its war but staying an uprising state so it's immune to diplomatic plays? I think I just witnessed the "definitely not csa" winning the civil war and taking all of the USA in a single war, then the war somehow continuing with korea against the new government in the US, then somehow that ended but I didnt see why. Now prussia is cutting the USA down to size.
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Omobono posted:How am I supposed to achieve full space gay luxury communism? How I understand it is you either need to have a movement that supports the law you want or have an interest group in government that supports it to be able to try enacting it.
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you can also just have a leader that wants it i had an autocratic military leader just go and decide to declare the rise of the soviet and push a socialist law instantly of my choosing, and then later the army radicalized into die-hard communists.
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VideoWitch posted:How I understand it is you either need to have a movement that supports the law you want or have an interest group in government that supports it to be able to try enacting it. also you better hope the interest group supporting your law isn't a bunch of incompetent buffoons, or it's clown time for a couple years
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Libluini posted:I'm playing tons of Stellaris and that's the first time I hear of this. This issue must have been fixed the one week where I wasn't playing, ha ha Were you playing the patch they ditched tiles and added the pop system? It was extremely bad on release. They "fixed" a lot of issues with the pop system by simply slashing the number of pops by 50%. That helped--especially with the hideous end-game lag--but the AI still wasn't able to make sense of most of the games' systems as of Federations. It got by through cheating a lot of resources to build big fleets. Their worlds were invariably a mess, and they couldn't do basic things like "don't send all your fleets out and leave your homeworld unguarded".
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Tiler Kiwi posted:you can also just have a leader that wants it it's always funny whenever this happens and the rural/trade unions are left in the dust by the suddenly vanguardist army
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:I think I just witnessed the "definitely not csa" winning the civil war and taking all of the USA in a single war, then the war somehow continuing with korea against the new government in the US, then somehow that ended but I didnt see why. Now prussia is cutting the USA down to size. well at least prussia can target it. i have a melanesian uprising and dutch east indies peasant revolt that have completely supplanted their originals, but nonetheless aren't valid targets for anything
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MrYenko posted:If the Socialists aren’t regularly winning US elections before 1850, you probably aren’t doing this right. does winning elections even do anything
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"Cocaine Addict" trait gives generals/admirals popularity lol
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cheesetriangles posted:Am I missing something with diplomatic plays? Trying to go to war with Mexico to grab the historical states the US took and every time I try to do so they back down, giving me my primary war goal and nothing else with no option for me to say no I would rather invade and not have a 5 year truce after getting 20% of Colorado that you colonized instead of me. It's going to take decades to grab this poo poo piece meal one at a time. Once you start the diplomatic action you can select it and then add in extra war goals.
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:"Cocaine Addict" trait gives generals/admirals popularity lol They must not be stingy with their supply.
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What steps can you take as the US not to trail of tears the natives? Can you be peaceful and integrate them peacefully or do you have to gobble them up then give them rights along with civilization?
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I played most of a game as Cuba with the goal of becoming independent and you still have to pay a massive stipend to Spain during the independence war, lol.
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Stux posted:it isnt. go find out if you like the game or not yourself instead of trying to osmosis an opinion third hand. if you do like it then u can buy it for real. if you dont then you know that You do not like it. "My child, it says here that thou did knowingly steal from thine brother Johann." "Oh, that? I was trying before buying. So am I in the book? Am I to enter the Kingdom of Heaven?" "Eternal Bliss was on the Father's content roadmap, but with such a weak 3rd quarter..."  don't talk about :files: in games
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Mister Olympus posted:Has anyone else ran into an "uprising" state winning its war but staying an uprising state so it's immune to diplomatic plays? I was actually surprised I didn't break anything when I shanked the parent country (because they were temporarily not under Dutch protection).  Was able to follow up and finish off the revolt rump.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I was actually surprised I didn't break anything when I shanked the parent country (because they were temporarily not under Dutch protection). I think this might be my issue, I can do stuff with the netherlands but the unrecognized state that the melanesian uprising was against doesn't exist anymore, it's been gobbled up, but the uprising hasn't re-defaulted back into being "that" state
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Oh god, there needs to be a way to cancel the Suez survey because I'm a dumbass.
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Elendil004 posted:What steps can you take as the US not to trail of tears the natives? Can you be peaceful and integrate them peacefully or do you have to gobble them up then give them rights along with civilization? Either finish the expulsion/genocide or make Cherokee culture not discriminated against. Passing Multiculturalism does the trick, but you have to abolish slavery first. I got both done before 1838 in my current run. Once accepted, you get an event which auto-annexes the Indian Territory.
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Trying to get some obligations from people and it's not looking great. Can you get them in a peace declaration?
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Phigs posted:Trying to get some obligations from people and it's not looking great. Can you get them in a peace declaration? Have you tried bankrolling?
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Anime Store Adventure posted:I played most of a game as Cuba with the goal of becoming independent and you still have to pay a massive stipend to Spain during the independence war, lol. Has your deal been officially ended? Then pay the price till the bitter end
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Okay the political simulation is flawed and the AI is janky but the economy really is amazing. Really unique and once the way it differs from both other strategy games and Vic2 clicks, pretty engrossing. Denmark is an interesting one, I have to say. You get a small handful of starting colonies and a high literacy, but the lack of iron and coal means you can't really develop heavy industry. Curious to see how far I can take trying to build a semi-agrarian economy while relying on imports for stuff like tools and engines.
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:Either finish the expulsion/genocide or make Cherokee culture not discriminated against. Passing Multiculturalism does the trick, but you have to abolish slavery first. I got both done before 1838 in my current run. Once accepted, you get an event which auto-annexes the Indian Territory. drat, seems like a rough run but might be fun.
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Phigs posted:Once you start the diplomatic action you can select it and then add in extra war goals. This doesn't help. Because if they back down, I only get my original goal. The idea someone else had of asking for a goal like make protectorate that they would never accept is probably the smart play. How do I get my ports to switch to steamers instead of clippers? Elendil004 posted:What steps can you take as the US not to trail of tears the natives? Can you be peaceful and integrate them peacefully or do you have to gobble them up then give them rights along with civilization? Enacting multiculturalism as a law ends it.
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I saw this online, refused to believe it until I looked into the game files myself and it's real. It's under the Karl Marx Events file: Makes me wonder what other references have been snuck in this game!
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Game is chugging hard in the 1880s. And both UK and Prussia got conquered by communist revolts, which then got a ton of infamy for annexing their parent countries then got cut down to size by their neighbours. Not sure if bug or feature. Economic/domestic bits of the game are good, but certainly needed a few more months of polish in the oven.
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Omobono posted:How am I supposed to achieve full space gay luxury communism? StashAugustine posted:does winning elections even do anything In order to to enact a law, one of the interest groups in the government must have an opinion on that law, or a political movement by the opposition must start regarding that law. This is why women's rights options beyond "Propertied" are gated until much later in the game because you are required to have a leader with the Feminist ideology for the group to have opinions on women's rights. Elections give you the ability to change which groups are in power without causing Radicals to form (if you push a group out of power outside of election time, it will cause them to generate a bunch of Radicals). The closer the government matches the results of voters, the higher the government's Legitimacy (which affects how fast the lawmaking process cycles). But you can certainly decide to push in some marginal interest group into power to give you the option of pushing for that law. However it will have a very small chance to fire so it might take years (or you could get hit with a bunch of events that make it impossible lol)
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Stux posted:just pirate it and find out for yourself lol absolutely insane way to interact with a game. Nothing wrong with asking a question. Bit rude too, come on.
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So far the game is still obtuse, but I haven't wanted to stop playing. It's also a fantastic ALT-TAB game. That said this game is nowhere and I mean nowhere as obtuse as Vicky 2 or Imperator by a country mile. I figure things will follow the usual paradox route of lots of bug fixes and UX changes and gameplay and/or first DLC start when they get to 2.0. I'm fine with the war system, it was always abstract in Vicky and the use of fronts makes things a lot less of apain in the rear end then province hunting a far smaller army.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:In order to to enact a law, one of the interest groups in the government must have an opinion on that law, or a political movement by the opposition must start regarding that law. This is why women's rights options beyond "Propertied" are gated until much later in the game because you are required to have a leader with the Feminist ideology for the group to have opinions on women's rights. Thing is my country is about evenly split between 4 interest groups so I can pick any 2 and have basically the same legitimacy Also while we're at it maybe I'm just bad but it seems like the economy kinda fucks up in the second half of the game because I can't find any trade routes for the oil and rubber I desperately need
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StashAugustine posted:Also while we're at it maybe I'm just bad but it seems like the economy kinda fucks up in the second half of the game because I can't find any trade routes for the oil and rubber I desperately need all the oil and rubber are in the places where the industrial nations aren't. get colonizing
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I'm Britain and wound up with an australian province after conquering it from natives; how do I give it to the WA subject so I can form Australia?
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:all the oil and rubber are in the places where the industrial nations aren't. get colonizing not so easy when all the relevant resource spots have already been colonised by an AI that, more often than not, has decided it's not worth exploiting. this is, of course, in spite of the fact that there a huge demand for those goods and ample free labourers. the cost-benefit analysis capability of the AI still needs a lot of work. the market might be purely rational, the AI is assuredly not.
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