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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Good point, and it would be great to remove any remaining excuse for the DOJ to further delay indictment. By what?
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Rigel posted:Honestly, the committee should just make its report to the DOJ and disband anyway. Their work seems to be over at this point even if the Dems kept the house. i suspect they are gonna try to finish up over lame duck.
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Oct 27, 2022 02:17
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The thing about Jan 6 that is so astonishing was seeing the footage where everyone is preparing for rioters breaching the building and they are putting on tear gas masks. Like at that point you would expect that everyone (Dem and Republican) must have considered "there is a good chance I am going to get hurt or die over this. And it's all because of Trump." But then when it's all over the hypnosis comes back on and they are back to supporting Trump. Real Stockholm Syndrome stuff.
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Oct 27, 2022 10:36
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I mean for Republicans at least he's a big stupid blank check to do whatever they want (in theory), I can see the idea of the gravy train returning winning out over long term self-preservation in those sorts. The Dems I got nothing
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Oct 27, 2022 10:59
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The Question IRL posted:The thing about Jan 6 that is so astonishing was seeing the footage where everyone is preparing for rioters breaching the building and they are putting on tear gas masks. Actually even republicans like McTurtle directly called out Trump as causing all this afterwards. As I remember it took a few days for everyone to calm down and start blaming ANTIFA again.
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Oct 27, 2022 11:22
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McConnell broke and blamed Trump, and quickly realized the voters were not following. His party voters were going to back Trump no matter what. So he quietly got back in line with everybody else and gave up trying to fix the gop
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Oct 27, 2022 12:52
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mobby_6kl posted:Actually even republicans like McTurtle directly called out Trump as causing all this afterwards. As I remember it took a few days for everyone to calm down and start blaming ANTIFA again. Reminder that McConnell followed up this one moment of clarity by voting "not guilty" on the second impeachment.
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Oct 27, 2022 13:25
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Angry_Ed posted:Reminder that McConnell followed up this one moment of clarity by voting "not guilty" on the second impeachment. He's alive, so he's running.
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Oct 27, 2022 14:06
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Judge Schnoopy posted:McConnell broke and blamed Trump, and quickly realized the voters were not following. His party voters were going to back Trump no matter what. So he quietly got back in line with everybody else and gave up trying to fix the gop They're afraid of their own voters. They've created an absolutely unhinged monster and have no idea how to control it so they're just going to try to ride that wave until they get voted out for not being crazy enough and escape into the private sector and write a tell-all book to cash in after they've been forgotten and are no longer getting death threats.
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Oct 27, 2022 15:17
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Couldn't they like... Privately work together to oust the insurrectionists?
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Oct 27, 2022 15:43
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Someone post the Romney death-stare pic. Some of them knew full well who caused it.
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Oct 27, 2022 15:46
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Couldn't they like... Privately work together to oust the insurrectionists? Given that they have absolutely no reason to trust any of their colleagues to keep such a plan quiet as opposed to trumpeting it when they're two points down in some primary or other to try to hang onto power, lmao no.
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Oct 27, 2022 15:52
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Couldn't they like... Privately work together to oust the insurrectionists? They could, but save for a handful of obvious outliers, they have no way of knowing who would or wouldn't torpedo the effort for cheap political points and guaranteed votes from the MAGA crowd. When your political strategy is "power at any cost", that creates an awful lot of craven monsters who only put on the appearance of "respectable" politicians.
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Honestly they probably don’t care enough They may think the voters are unhinged rear end in a top hat idiots but they’ve also mostly learned they can keep doing what they want as long as they pay some lip service to the idiots They’re definitely thinking “next time they won’t come after me if I trick them to thinking im all in on their side “
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Oct 27, 2022 17:12
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Aren't they supposed to champion some election overhaul law at the end of the committee? They've voted, and I think even passed some legislation, but i don't know if they got everything they wanted.
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Oct 27, 2022 21:39
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DeathChicken posted:I mean for Republicans at least he's a big stupid blank check to do whatever they want (in theory), I can see the idea of the gravy train returning Too bad he never had money to throw into a crowd.  He said he would be there 1/6, so the same "reasoning" applied (huh, what's a word for "reached a conclusion" when in fact no reason was involved?): "I'll look cool and good because I'll be on camera with ma precedent!". I wouldn't be surprised if half of them thought T would be waiting for them on the floor ready to congratulate them personally. They're basically jihadists. Breaking and entering and assault were the means. The motive wasn't some "corrective legislation" but installation of a leader of a religious cult. He created the opportunity and was the leader, which is why he's guilty of treason along with many others. Today's "election was stolen" is just their way of saying "we'd install him today if we could".
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Oct 27, 2022 22:24
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Rust Martialis posted:Someone post the Romney death-stare pic. Some of them knew full well who caused it. Can't recall who said it at the time this was linked, but: quote:Romney drank his first beer an hour ago
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Oct 28, 2022 13:53
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Drakyn posted:https://twitter.com/KirkAdams/status/1347004779889782785?s=20&t=9YcR2OX4LAN-MMoxu8PQVQ I admire the super human restraint Romney is exhibiting in that image against probably every primal urge in his body, but if he'd just wrapped his arm around Josh Hawley's neck and choked that terrorist traitor motherfucker out on live television in the well of the senate, I don't think literally anyone would have held it against him.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:32
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nine-gear crow posted:I admire the super human restraint Romney is exhibiting in that image against probably every primal urge in his body, but if he'd just wrapped his arm around Josh Hawley's neck and choked that terrorist traitor motherfucker out on live television in the well of the senate, I don't think literally anyone would have held it against him. "It was the damnedest thing, Josh just suddenly collapsed with a crushed neck."
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Oct 28, 2022 17:53
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nine-gear crow posted:I admire the super human restraint Romney is exhibiting in that image against probably every primal urge in his body, but if he'd just wrapped his arm around Josh Hawley's neck and choked that terrorist traitor motherfucker out on live television in the well of the senate, I don't think literally anyone would have held it against him. Mitt agrees with his policies though just not the way they are going about it.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:56
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Mooseontheloose posted:Mitt agrees with his policies though just not the way they are going about it. Sure, but Hawley is a supremely unpleasant person and I can only imagine also smells real bad.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:59
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Mooseontheloose posted:Mitt agrees with his policies though just not the way they are going about it. Hawley has to be up there with Ted Cruz among Senators every other Senator hates regardless of party affiliation because they're smarmy assholes.
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Oct 28, 2022 18:01
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Mooseontheloose posted:Mitt agrees with his policies though just not the way they are going about it. Yes but I don't think Mitt agrees with having his life threatened by dumbfucks who Hawley was personally endorsing.
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Oct 28, 2022 18:13
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Madkal posted:Yes but I don't think Mitt agrees with having his life threatened by dumbfucks who Hawley was personally endorsing. yah fair. The Republican member though are just a special breed of stupid. I don't think they realized that mob would of tried to killed anyone in the chamber.
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Oct 28, 2022 18:14
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Mooseontheloose posted:Mitt agrees with his policies though just not the way they are going about it. This forum itself has shown that people are willing to do grievous, spiteful harm to people they otherwise agree with 100% over much pettier poo poo 
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Oct 28, 2022 18:15
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Mooseontheloose posted:yah fair. The Republican member though are just a special breed of stupid. I don't think they realized that mob would of tried to killed anyone in the chamber. I think you're living in a loving fantasy world. They'd been warned for months this was coming and these people were dangerous BY PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN PARTY. They expected antifa to show up and Trump to use the street battles as an excuse to declare martial law and take over that way might be more accurate.
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Oct 28, 2022 18:16
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Oracle posted:I think you're living in a loving fantasy world. They'd been warned for months this was coming and these people were dangerous BY PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN PARTY. They expected antifa to show up and Trump to use the street battles as an excuse to declare martial law and take over that way might be more accurate. And the mob would be able to tell the difference how, precisely? Being complicit does not bar them from being stupid, in this instance.
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Oct 28, 2022 18:46
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Please, any republican caught by the mob could just say "trump is president and I'm helping you get him certified" and join the crowd without harm. The police handing out high fives were embraced. Those guarding the doors were attacked and killed. The riot was keeping a careful eye out for allies, even if they seemed unpredictable.
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Oct 28, 2022 19:05
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Please, any republican caught by the mob could just say "trump is president and I'm helping you get him certified" and join the crowd without harm. A good example is that one black capitol policeman who they tried to win over, only to turn instantly hostile when they learned he was a Biden voter and start hurling racial slurs and abuse at him.
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Oct 28, 2022 19:11
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I think they were out for blood and probably wouldn't know the difference between a Republican and a Democrat. All members were hiding for their lives, not just Democrats. No-one was feeling safe, which is why it is so galling to see Republicans now say "it was no biggie"
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Oct 28, 2022 19:26
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Any given white male congressman mightve been able to blend in or might have gotten lynched. Mobs aren't predictable.
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Oct 28, 2022 19:46
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"They weren't chanting hang Mike Pence, they were chanting HUG Mike Pence"
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Oct 28, 2022 20:04
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Any given white male congressman mightve been able to blend in or might have gotten lynched. Mobs aren't predictable. Not Romney. He was up there with Pelosi on the kill list.
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Oct 28, 2022 20:30
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fabiopenz posted:"They weren't chanting hang Mike Pence, they were chanting HUG Mike Pence" The Mike Pence, The
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Oct 28, 2022 21:00
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IPlayVideoGames posted:The Mike Pence, The Literally the Republican Party official stance.
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Oct 28, 2022 21:06
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Tayter Swift posted:Not Romney. He was up there with Pelosi on the kill list. Speaking of Pelosi, someone broke into her home looking for her. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2022/oct/28/democrats-obama-midterms-republicans-us-politics-live-updates
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The Question IRL posted:Speaking of Pelosi, someone broke into her home looking for her. I was reading this, and from other sources, as well as the updates. (Presumably a MAGA conspiracy person, on drugs, who entered screaming "Where's Nancy".) This is just awful. Fortunately Nancy wasn't there but her husband is now undergoing brain surgery. Terrible. Unforgivable. But now I'm going to say the other part. It's been almost two years and a few people have some reduced prison sentences, and the last one got nothing (house arrest) because on this side of the aisle we're actually humane. They're going to keep trying, and keep trying, because we haven't applied the basic penalties for treason under the law. This event is the outcome they wanted on 1/6, times 400. Now we have people standing with guns watching ballot boxes, reenactments of 1/6 rep hunting, but not one single firing squad or public hanging out of the thousands of traitors. There's a long way to go before this gets better.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:I was reading this, and from other sources, as well as the updates. (Presumably a MAGA conspiracy person, on drugs, who entered screaming "Where's Nancy".) This is just awful. Fortunately Nancy wasn't there but her husband is now undergoing brain surgery. Indeed. If we're going by Weimar Republic standards, the next escalation of this is going to be MAGA judges interfering in the prosecution of domestic terrorists.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Indeed. If we're going by Weimar Republic standards, the next escalation of this is going to be MAGA judges interfering in the prosecution of domestic terrorists. I'm pretty sure we passed that stage months ago.
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Skex posted:I'm pretty sure we passed that stage months ago. edit: It feels like I'm saying one thing and people are using it to diss politicians by calling them terrorists (which is good n' cool.) But I want to be clear: The escalation of that is when the judges start stepping in to protect these deranged alt-righters nobodies when they start killing people. If the time was right, they would protect this hammer man. Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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