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Rubellavator posted:totally legal Ref had not turned around yet.
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This is gonna get even dumber
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Oct 26, 2022 13:42
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Asuron posted:Did he… jump off the ropes? not his first time doing this. Welcome to Super Punch Out bullshit.
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Oct 26, 2022 15:05
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Wally is going to use his alpha predator strength to pull a rope right off the turnbuckle and use it to garrotte Ricardo. The ref won't say poo poo. Ricardo will get free and throw a punch that goes back in time and kills the dinosaurs. Wally will lose because he was never born.
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Oct 26, 2022 15:09
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The Ricardo character development is good, and if Wally is just a vehicle to show more of him as the end game big boss that's cool, but drat if once again the Wally wackiness isn't tainting the action a bit.
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Oct 26, 2022 16:31
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it's funny because if the series were in general a little more 'super boxing magic' like kengan, wally is actually a pretty good concept but it isn't so too much suspension of belief is demanded. we could have fixed this all by having the ref try to call out wally on something earlier in the match and ricardo being like 'don't foul him i am metztli' and then there's even the most tenuous reason why the ref isn't just dqing this man
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Oct 26, 2022 20:48
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I won’t be satisfied until Woli is jumping around like Maliketh the Black Blade, including pulling a broken sword out of his hand (spoilers) and using Destined Death, which some call true death, to destroy Ricardo body and soul. Anyway loved the chapter.
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Patware posted:it's funny because if the series were in general a little more 'super boxing magic' like kengan, wally is actually a pretty good concept It's been brought up before that if the Ref does not see it there is no point in bringing it up. It was shown explicitly the Ref had not turned around yet when Wally jumped off the ropes.
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Oct 26, 2022 21:18
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Even superhuman Ricardo Martinez's eyes can barely keep up with Woli. What hope does a ref have
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Didn't they have a bit in the runup to this fight where they seemed to be setting up "oh Wally is a normal boxer now"
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's been brought up before that if the Ref does not see it there is no point in bringing it up. It was shown explicitly the Ref had not turned around yet when Wally jumped off the ropes. Oh cmon, he’s done so many fouls the ref has seen at this point and he 100% saw this one. They even state he’s going for a decision, which is just hilarious because of all the bullshit he’s doing which would’ve got him penalised. I’m really not sure why you’re defending it at this point , is this the type of boxing you want to see in this manga?A character basically breaking all the rules and doing whatever he wants? It’s got to the point he’s jumping off the rope and the characters are saying “ what a smart tactic” . Might as well just make this a a WWE manga if we’re going to have a character do that legitimately in a world title match, hell it might make it better. Asuron fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Oct 26, 2022 |
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Oct 26, 2022 22:08
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Honestly, I can't imagine seeing someone be as inactive as Ricardo has been in this fight either. Imagine watching 9 minutes of Woli running around while Ricardo just blocks. The crowd would definitely be booing for more than one reason by now.
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Oct 26, 2022 23:03
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Asuron posted:Did he… jump off the ropes? You obviously weren't with us when we spent 2+ months livereading his first fight with Ippo 
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Oct 27, 2022 00:16
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I will say I thought Morikawa had more respect for the sport of boxing than to pull this nonsense
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Oct 27, 2022 00:44
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I did at least find it interesting that Ricardo's camp apparently intended to use Woli as a tune-up fight for Sendo
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's been brought up before that if the Ref does not see it there is no point in bringing it up. It was shown explicitly the Ref had not turned around yet when Wally jumped off the ropes. lol
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Yeah it's dumb AF with the rope jumping, but since it's only Woli doing it, i'm good with it assuming Woli loses and just enjoying the ride watching OP totallynotracist monkey man summon his jungle stand. I think after 30+ years of doing serious boxing, Morikawa deserves to go a little more Cartoon Network once in his life!
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I stopped reading this poo poo for like 2 years from the last Woli fight, gonna prob wait till this is well past over to come back and catch up again. I didn't even get 2 chapters into the fight yet and its already just loving dumb.
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Oct 27, 2022 11:46
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the idea of the ref just having his back turned entirely to the action is already absurd
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Oct 27, 2022 15:01
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Again, this fight really does need to end Wally's career, because imagine how annoying it would be to read a fight that he wins.
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Oct 27, 2022 15:26
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wally is going to die for his boxing crimes and not being Machismo
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Oct 27, 2022 17:19
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Wally gets shot by a bookie who stands to lose everything by this surprise upset.
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Oct 27, 2022 17:27
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Wally is gonna get hit by the ref, but it's gonna be for some innocuous poo poo.
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Oct 27, 2022 17:49
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does morikawa not have like fellow mangaka friends or something who call him out for this poo poo
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Stairmaster posted:does morikawa not have like fellow mangaka friends or something who call him out for this poo poo Who's going to call out the author of the 30 year running most popular boxing manga about boxing?
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Gonna challenge Morikawa to a boxing match irl
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Oct 27, 2022 21:20
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Stairmaster posted:does morikawa not have like fellow mangaka friends or something who call him out for this poo poo the one manga that he is constantly writing a love letter to through HNI somehow managed to do "wild jungle man as a boxing opponent" even worse than this so i don't think he'll be stopping any time soon
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Oct 27, 2022 21:21
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Ashita no Joe?
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Yeah to be fair it looks like Woli is literally a more positively portrayed version of this guy.
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I do kind of like the "serious and brutally pragmatic" aspect of Woli in this fight (even though the rope jumping is still dumb as hell). Was that in his original Ippo fight? All I remember from that fight is "Ippo being incapable of landing a hit on him while Woli happily dances around and then winning by tapping him in the side a few times," but it's been a long time so I could be misremembering.
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Woli did not have an explicit strategy when fighting Ippo. He spent most of the match trying to see what Ippo can do, jumping around the ring, and eventually getting bored of not seeing anything new. When he realized poo poo was getting serious, he did not have any plan for how to turn the tables around.
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Shindragon posted:Ashita no Joe? yeah, harimau is unironically one of the most insane and (to me) inexplicable writing decisions i think i've ever seen in any form of media lol. it is so directly tonally contrasting with the rest of the manga - particularly the storyline that was gaining traction right at this time - that it completely baffles me. his inclusion and arc briefly undoes a lot of characterization and accomplishes functionally nothing lol i really dislike woli but i fuckin hated harimau
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tbp posted:yeah, harimau is unironically one of the most insane and (to me) inexplicable writing decisions i think i've ever seen in any form of media lol. it is so directly tonally contrasting with the rest of the manga - particularly the storyline that was gaining traction right at this time - that it completely baffles me. his inclusion and arc briefly undoes a lot of characterization and accomplishes functionally nothing lol I just read a summary of that arc and it looks like the dumbest poo poo ever.
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Harimau's arc has one up on this in that at least he got disqualified
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Ytlaya posted:I do kind of like the "serious and brutally pragmatic" aspect of Woli in this fight Just you wait until woli bounces of a rope, cuts it, and then uses it to whip Ricardo.
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trucutru posted:Just you wait until woli bounces of a rope, cuts it, and then uses it to whip Ricardo. Uses the rope as a garrote on Ricardo The ref is shown in the background, completely ambivalent
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Man this fight is so loving boring. Anything with woli is so annoying. Please Ricardo just pinch his loving head off his shoulders so we don't have to deal with this poo poo anymore.
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I thought it was funny leading up to it but yeah, I'm pretty let down and sick of this Mowgli poo poo
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I am still enjoying the fight.
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