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Mega Comrade posted:Wait you think an internet without twitter would be worse? Have you been asleep for the past decade?
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Vegetable posted:Twitter is how a lot of protesters, activists and journalism in many countries get the word out. Maybe they should switch to discord or something less onerous
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Oct 27, 2022 17:24
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Vegetable posted:Twitter is how a lot of protesters, activists and journalism in many countries get the word out. Social media is also the primary way fascists have recruited. Protesters, activists and journalists managed to organise fine before social media. Facism however, was struggling to grow until it came along, it's now in a boom period with prominent fascists directly claiming it was only possible thanks to social media. Social media isn't all bad, but the negatives far outweigh the benefits.
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Oct 27, 2022 17:33
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I think fascism received a wave of unpopularity but was still around. Fascists didn't seem to have a lot of trouble recruiting in the 20e and 30s
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Harold Fjord posted:I think fascism received a wave of unpopularity but was still around. Fascists didn't seem to have a lot of trouble recruiting in the 20e and 30s Well back then they used the technology of the time 
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Oct 27, 2022 17:45
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What's this about soccer being invented in Italy, I've never heard that.
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Vegetable posted:Twitter is how a lot of protesters, activists and journalism in many countries get the word out. And how many of my net buddies make a living, as it has okay functionality and reasonable discoverability. This poo poo potentially will do a LOT of damage to indie games, both tt and electronic, and various artists and camgirls and the like.
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Oct 27, 2022 18:09
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Kwyndig posted:What's this about soccer being invented in Italy, I've never heard that. A lot of the world used to attribute football (soccer) to Harpastum. The reality is most cultures invented a game that was kicking or hitting a leather ball around, but everyone wants to link themselves to Rome. The Chinese game Tsu'Chu is way closer though in terms of rules. Modern football/soccer is an English invention though.
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Oct 27, 2022 18:27
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StratGoatCom posted:And how many of my net buddies make a living, as it has okay functionality and reasonable discoverability. This poo poo potentially will do a LOT of damage to indie games, both tt and electronic, and various artists and camgirls and the like. Yeah, those longing for Twitter's downfall only seem to interact with the asinine parts of it and not the parts where people are (barely) able to present their arts/work/content, especially as Tumblr became increasingly hostile for most on that front.
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Oct 27, 2022 20:40
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I never understand that. As far as social media algorithms go, Twitter's is pretty good. Youtube tries to show me right wing propaganda all the time. Twitter really only shows me what I want to see. If Twitter is a cesspool for you, it is because you are engaging with and interacting with lovely people. I almost never see posts outside of my hobbies and animals because that is what I interact with.
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Oct 27, 2022 23:06
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Twitter in Latest mode is great. I only see the people I explicitly follow
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Oct 27, 2022 23:55
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Levitate posted:it's gonna suck for some journalistic purposes I don't know, maybe a bunch of journalists will be able to relearn how to do actual reporting.
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1585802723382927360quote:Musk terminated Twitter Chief Executive Parag Agrawal, Chief Financial Officer Ned Segal and legal affairs and policy chief Vijaya Gadde, according to people familiar with the matter. He had accused them of misleading him and Twitter investors over the number of fake accounts on the social media platform. 
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Oct 28, 2022 03:49
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I think twitter is just unique enough that any attempt to move from it will require the next platform to function almost exactly the same.
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Oct 28, 2022 10:10
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Agrawal gets a 39 million bucks golden handshake and Segal gets 25 million and Gadde got 12 million. Those poor folks, they must be heart broken!
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Freakazoid_ posted:I think twitter is just unique enough that any attempt to move from it will require the next platform to function almost exactly the same. Honestly you could say on a technical level it functionally pretty similar too facebook wall posts, just with less features and a word limit. Sure people use it differently but it's just people posting and people commenting on posts, with stuff organised by search/tags rather than threads or whatever. It's main popularity seems to just be because it was really simple, and back in the day it was the easiest to phone post from.
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Oct 28, 2022 10:20
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Big vibes of Rusty Venture taking over Ventronics.
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Oct 28, 2022 10:56
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Bring back Google+
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withoutclass posted:Bring back Google+ no
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Oct 28, 2022 12:20
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Google++
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Mega Comrade posted:Google++ I mean sure. Okay. But it better earn that extra +
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Oct 28, 2022 12:23
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So what is Twitter's fate with Elon Musk at the helm? A lot of reactionaries are celebrating this transaction, but will it really go the way they think it is? I hope he monetizes the gently caress out of the place. Freeze peach! For the low low price of $1.29 per word!
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Oct 28, 2022 12:29
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Welp, it was worth a shot.
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Oct 28, 2022 12:36
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dr_rat posted:I mean sure. Okay. But it better earn that extra + Now with automatic garbage collection
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Panfilo posted:So what is Twitter's fate with Elon Musk at the helm? A lot of reactionaries are celebrating this transaction, but will it really go the way they think it is? Yeah Guardian is reporting there is already been an up tick of racial slurs and Holocaust stuff on twitter, with people apparently testing the waters of what's going to be allowed. But they also note if it gets bad, EU might look to start regulating all social media more. https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2022/oct/28/elon-musk-bought-twitter-natwest-profits-economy-inflation-business-live He's sunk a bit of money into this so I doubt he'd purposely try and sink it, but loving it up by trying to monetizes it to hell and seeing everyone leave definitely seems a distinct possibility. Just montetizising blue ticks stuff might, as anyone who's built up a significant following has the most to lose by moving, but yeah for a lot of people moving from one social media to another isn't the biggest deal. Particularly if a whole bunch of people start moving at once. Which they will if it either becomes too nazi troll infested, or they have to enter their credit card details.
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Oct 28, 2022 12:48
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Just as a reminder he paid $200 a user, a laughably absurd price for the site. Generously it's worth a fourth of that. Oh and currently its loosing a dollar a year per user.
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Oct 28, 2022 13:03
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Deleted my twitter account. Been looking for a reason anyway, Twitter is loving horrible.
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Oct 28, 2022 13:08
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Can we disable Twitter embeds so people have to post screenshots again
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Oct 28, 2022 13:52
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I bet the Tesla engineers are delighted to have Twitter added to their responsibilities.
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Szmitten posted:Yeah, those longing for Twitter's downfall only seem to interact with the asinine parts of it and not the parts where people are (barely) able to present their arts/work/content, especially as Tumblr became increasingly hostile for most on that front. dr_rat posted:Honestly you could say on a technical level it functionally pretty similar too facebook wall posts, just with less features and a word limit. Not only does this shape the tone of posts on the site, but it also has the (intentional) effect of putting a spotlight on anything contentious. Your interactions (retweet/quote tweet/reply, embeds) with the things you disagree with (or, to be fair, sometimes the things you find funny or interesting) send those disagreeable things to the walls of your followers who, logically, probably share many of your beliefs. Negative interactions beget more negative interactions. This is Twitter working as intended: taking whatever your beliefs are, and showing them to as many people who hold the opposite beliefs as possible. Somehow an entire platform grew around making brigading as easy as possible. Now, as folks have pointed out, sometimes this spotlights the Ahmaud Arbery killing, or shows cops being cowards in Uvalde, but far more often it is directing heaps of vitriol at some 15 year old who didn't like some anime or whatever. Baronash fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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withak posted:I bet the Tesla engineers are delighted to have Twitter added to their responsibilities. Is not like they were making headway on the "don't run over children" or "don't randomly serve into trees / barricades" issues. May as well have them fix social media.
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Mercury_Storm posted:Can we disable Twitter embeds so people have to post screenshots again No please! I avoid using Twitter because 95% of what I read of it are posts on here. Your sacrifice to the algorithm in posting them, is appreciated.
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twitter embeds haven't worked for me on the boards for like a month, elon's got nothing on me
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dr_rat posted:I mean sure. Okay. But it better earn that extra + google+ was really good for nerd communities like tabletop RPGs and poo poo, it's a shame it's gone
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Here's a question for the gallery. Let's say there's a fantastical company that doesn't care about liability and willfully commits to moderating their large social media platform to weed out malicious behavior like harassment, threats, and disinfo. Even if they are completely benevolent and driven in their pursuit, is it practical or even possible to regulate a platform with a population in the hundreds of millions? Is there a system one could design or enough man-hours dedicated to moderation that it would be feasible?
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Here's a question for the gallery. Let's say there's a fantastical company that doesn't care about liability and willfully commits to moderating their large social media platform to weed out malicious behavior like harassment, threats, and disinfo. Even if they are completely benevolent and driven in their pursuit, is it practical or even possible to regulate a platform with a population in the hundreds of millions? Is there a system one could design or enough man-hours dedicated to moderation that it would be feasible? No, because that many people can't even agree on what constitutes inappropriate behavior and disinformation. Say it with me: There are no technical solutions to social problems.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Here's a question for the gallery. Let's say there's a fantastical company that doesn't care about liability and willfully commits to moderating their large social media platform to weed out malicious behavior like harassment, threats, and disinfo. Even if they are completely benevolent and driven in their pursuit, is it practical or even possible to regulate a platform with a population in the hundreds of millions? Is there a system one could design or enough man-hours dedicated to moderation that it would be feasible?
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Here's a question for the gallery. Let's say there's a fantastical company that doesn't care about liability and willfully commits to moderating their large social media platform to weed out malicious behavior like harassment, threats, and disinfo. Even if they are completely benevolent and driven in their pursuit, is it practical or even possible to regulate a platform with a population in the hundreds of millions? Is there a system one could design or enough man-hours dedicated to moderation that it would be feasible? the better short-term option is giving users the ability to moderate their own feeds and notifications more, but it obviously doesn't deal with the more targeted stuff e: automated moderation of dm's are a bit different, but you obviously don't want to help set up a system to help arrest people for protesting etc kliras fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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Appreciate the thoughtful answers. I suppose McLuhan's global village is doomed to be as awful as the society it reflects.
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