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Set
Oct 30, 2005

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Set fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Oct 29, 2022

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teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Set posted:

Sorry but I tried sharing this last night, but the thread got locked just as I was posting and I don't have PMs/feel comfortable emailing right now.

Now they are straight up lying about me, and even connecting these lies straight up with my username. These are straight up libelious claims and easily fact checked to be false.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3994250&pagenumber=3962&perpage=40#post527290063

Sorry for linking directly. I would be happy if a mod erased my avatar now if the option is still open. It has gone beyond anything reasonable and these forums are clearly no longer safe for me to use. Especially Mans and some of the other psychos have their crosshairs on me and I am worried they are escalating.

Yeah I won't be posting here again for a while. I apologize for no thread relevant content.

Varsågod, sa till om ni vill ha texten under borta.

E: aaaaa menade att jag begärde borttagningen, det är ju 840 i morgonen ffs

teen witch fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Oct 28, 2022

Set
Oct 30, 2005

gone

Set fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Oct 29, 2022

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

ascii genitals posted:

I have a Russian coworker, recruiters showed up at her husband's grandparents house and he had to talk to them over the phone telling them he is in the US and not to do anything to his grandparents. If he goes back he's going to jail. They tried to recruit his 54 year old dad, but he escaped in time to Uzbekistan.

Coworker's mom is here in the US helping take care of some new kids (twins.) She (the mom) supports Putin still.

They're forcibly recruiting uzbek nationals working in russia. Not just them, but others too. So yea, running is the only option

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

enigma74 posted:

I think we should have a simple rule:

One can either post in the GBS thread or the CSPAM thread. Any people who post in both get a ban.

Also, let's create a subforum called the CPSAM concentration camp. To uh...encourage and celebrate the unique viewpoints held there. Then permaban anyone who posts there after 6 months.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

:goofy:

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe

Subjunctive posted:

Could this approach change the thermal silhouette sufficiently that it wasn’t recognized as a tank? Not to cause the javelin to attack the bucket of coals, but to keep it from seeing the vehicle as a target in the first place.

If a modern AT missile could be fooled by by changing the silhouette of a vehicle I'd assume that we would see arms companies experimenting with all sorts of wild add-ons to tanks. We don't, so this ad-hoc bullshit is probably the equivalent of painting magical runes on your tank to ward off the baleful eye of St Javelin.

bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

Set posted:

Sorry but I tried sharing this last night, but the thread got locked just as I was posting and I don't have PMs/feel comfortable emailing right now.

Now they are straight up lying about me, and even connecting these lies straight up with my username. These are straight up libelious claims and easily fact checked to be false.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3994250&pagenumber=3962&perpage=40#post527290063

Sorry for linking directly. I would be happy if a mod erased my avatar now if the option is still open. It has gone beyond anything reasonable and these forums are clearly no longer safe for me to use. Especially Mans and some of the other psychos have their crosshairs on me and I am worried they are escalating.

Yeah I won't be posting here again for a while. I apologize for no thread relevant content.

How on earth is this OK on this forum? This was some vile poo poo when it started and it still keeps going on.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I m really confused about whats going on. Why do goons hate eachother?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009

Ups_rail posted:

I m really confused about whats going on. Why do goons hate eachother?

some goons decided to simp for a genocidal dictatorship.
some goons are upset that these goons actively want them to die.

both sides, etc.

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Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1585900982902214656

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1585737230337077248

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

fresh loss.jpg

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1585896479700426753?s=20&t=P-w7He65TzKpJArkhw8HUw

Bowing before the guys that they pointlessly got killed

https://twitter.com/KilledInUkraine/status/1585901879263105026?s=20&t=P-w7He65TzKpJArkhw8HUw

Small video but

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7159300239755660550

And finally, laugh at this idiot

https://twitter.com/socialiststeve6/status/1583430935730851840?s=20&t=Ya5mb5XcDOxgy-o91Feoqg

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



bad_fmr posted:

How on earth is this OK on this forum? This was some vile poo poo when it started and it still keeps going on.

Jeff says it drives engagement and yet more and more it makes me want to disengage completely and never look back. Pretty sad considering I've spent nearly 20 years on this site.

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god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA

quote:

stalking in process

I'm so sorry you've been dealing with this. If it helps, I've sent an email to forumadmins@somethingawful.com about it.

edited per user's request

god please help me fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Oct 29, 2022

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004

Regrettable posted:

Jeff says it drives engagement and yet more and more it makes me want to disengage completely and never look back. Pretty sad considering I've spent nearly 20 years on this site.

:cry:

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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

what the gently caress

E: Edited as per the formerly quoted poster's wishes

Runa fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Oct 29, 2022

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007


I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem
Sorry for not being more active the last two weeks while things went down, but I was kinda busy with COVID. Starting to feel better now.

Kind reminder that the following rules are currently in effect:

KitConstantine posted:

Okay guys that was exciting

I will reopen this thread but I am going to ask a couple of things

1. Please no more CSPAM talk for the next 48 hours. Please. I will enforce this but please don't make me. This was exhausting and I just don't wanna deal with it while I'm also dealing with some real life poo poo over the next couple of days. You can message Athanatos with any further concerns you have, or me and I will forward them. But nothing in the thread

2. I'm going to be stepping up my enforcement of the existing bloodlust posting rules. This came up consistently IN THIS THREAD during the discussion and it's something I am happy to fix. That means dark jokes that are borderline are much more likely to get hit and I will be much more strict about ramps going forward

3. Post news and about news! That's what makes this thread fun to read. I'll be putting another news round up in tonight yet at some point but phone posting the next couple days won't be great for that

4. Please just be nice to each other.

Okay. Opening up in 5 minutes.

Rule #1 has still 34ish hours left on the timer and I am going to enforce it from here on out.


Besides that, I just wanted to say that I appreciate the community and culture this thread has going on and you all did well, imo. :hfive:

Goatson
Oct 21, 2020

The real 12 points was the Thug-Friends we made along the way
I lied. I actually lust for more broken Russian bridges.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Tarquinn posted:

Sorry for not being more active the last two weeks while things went down, but I was kinda busy with COVID. Starting to feel better now.

Kind reminder that the following rules are currently in effect:

Rule #1 has still 34ish hours left on the timer and I am going to enforce it from here on out.


Besides that, I just wanted to say that I appreciate the community and culture this thread has going on and you all did well, imo. :hfive:

So I have to ask did you get the body aches? That was the worst part for me.

Also thanks for the heads up and not just handing out probs

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA
for real, I appreciate it. Hope you are recovering well!

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007


I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem
You're welcome. :)

Ups_rail posted:

So I have to ask did you get the body aches? That was the worst part for me.
No, not really. Headaches, fatigue, coughing and generally feeling unwell. The worst part was that I was unable to focus on stuff and especially text for a longer time, which meant I was skimming more than actually reading. This also made me decide not to do any actual moderating for obvious reasons.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Check out the mud and fog. Cozy.

https://twitter.com/TarmoFella/status/1585915352185192450

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA
Man, good luck surviving any sort of prolonged period surrounded by mud. You can hardly do so even with good equipment.

General Probe
Dec 28, 2004
Has this been done before?
Soiled Meat
Thinking about the conscription of all those poor Russians is going to be super hosed up in the long term.

Like, if you look at the fighting effectiveness of Volksstrum and the results of knocking out single T-34s with Panzerfaust and ambushing Red Army recce teams are not good.

What’s killing me is that tankies are seeing this conflict almost entirely in moral East vs West terms, not operational terms, but the consequences of the Volksstrum are almost entirely morally reprehensible and operationally non-existent - so why cheerlead it?

If you remove any control over violence by civil and military authorities, unleash violence mostly directed inwards, prevent surrenders and truces, and when your conscripts does get a disposable AT shot off and burn out a tank, it’s not just what happens to them that’s bad, it’s that the entire civilian population suffers the consequences - and you just delay the enemy, who can afford to lose a tank.

The moral position here is not encouraging this.

Here's hoping Russia comes to its senses and sues for peace.

General Probe fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Oct 28, 2022

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

General Probe posted:


Here's hoping Russia comes to its senses and sues for peace.

That unfortunately will most likely require the leadership in Russia to change. In his speech last night Putin kept repeating that "Ukraine is not a real county"-policy and that the war goes on until the entire country is under Russian occupation. If he hasn't gotten the clue yet, or isn't setting up a position to negotiate down the road by now, its not going to happen after the next ~75 000 Russian conscript are lost to the grinder they have been building with the mobilization either.

Very much depends on how the Russian army manages the cold winter months, that are starting right now in the Northern parts of Ukraine and in a month elsewhere. If there is another collapsed front, this thing could be over before next Summer, if there isn't, it will take years to grind down the Russian army in the occupied territories.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

god please help me posted:

Man, good luck surviving any sort of prolonged period surrounded by mud. You can hardly do so even with good equipment.

The Romans conquered the world in sandals 2000 years ago, no reason Russian conscripts can't do the same today.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

god please help me posted:

Man, good luck surviving any sort of prolonged period surrounded by mud. You can hardly do so even with good equipment.

Tbh mud isn't that big of a deal with gear. Just aslong as you keep to a daily schedule of giving it a decent clean. Camp hygiene and discipline is very much a life saver.

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots

Tai posted:

Tbh mud isn't that big of a deal with gear. Just aslong as you keep to a daily schedule of giving it a decent clean. Camp hygiene and discipline is very much a life saver.

Is there any indication at all that the Russian Military is capable of anything you wrote?

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Goatson posted:

I lied. I actually lust for more broken Russian bridges.

I absolutely lust for liquefied mortar

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots
Ukrainian tank retrieving corps and tactical doggo unit working together


https://i.imgur.com/Dcx4xld.mp4

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

Flyinglemur posted:

Is there any indication at all that the Russian Military is capable of anything you wrote?

They probably keep the looted washing machines clean I guess.

PC LOAD LETTER
May 23, 2005
WTF?!

Tai posted:

Tbh mud isn't that big of a deal with gear. Just aslong as you keep to a daily schedule of giving it a decent clean. Camp hygiene and discipline is very much a life saver.

If you're in a trench 24/7 a la WW1 for weeks at a time then keeping the mud off and your gear clean is basically impossible.

The troops during WW1 constantly complained about it, and about the hygine issues too. Especially during a rainy period. Reputedly you could smell the front lines from miles away from all the rotting bodies, body odor, and overflowed latrines that ended up in the trenches over time.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

PC LOAD LETTER posted:

If you're in a trench 24/7 a la WW1 for weeks at a time then keeping the mud off and your gear clean is basically impossible.

The troops during WW1 constantly complained about it, and about the hygine issues too. Especially during a rainy period. Reputedly you could smell the front lines from miles away from all the rotting bodies, body odor, and overflowed latrines that ended up in the trenches over time.

Bear in mind, a lot of those troops weren't given a lot of training. Trench warfare was fairly new. Tech has also advanced a poo poo tonne too so has trench construction. Some of the trenches Ukraine have dug have stuff like make shift pizza ovens. Think it was only a page back with a picture of a trench.

And speaking from personal experience, I've done plenty of trench excersises in the rain and keeping gear clean isn't overly hard. It's just something you cannot skip in your daily routine. But tech is much better than WW1. Even a small bottle of squirty sanitizer is a massive tech upgrade from 100 years ago.

e - it's not 1 page back, more like 5 or so.

Tai fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Oct 28, 2022

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

Flyinglemur posted:

Is there any indication at all that the Russian Military is capable of anything you wrote?

there's plenty indication that the Russians are capable of constructing defensive embankments with their poop

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Blocking detachment, the caller is already on the frontline, but officially they're still training. A familiar story, they were mauled in the first line, the leftovers were moved to the 2nd line, no food, nothing. The prisoners were moved to the first line. 2nd and 3rd line act as blocking detachments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHjXPv-UTII

PC LOAD LETTER
May 23, 2005
WTF?!

Tai posted:

Bear in mind

Some were barely trained but lots were experienced too. And trench warfare wasn't new in WW1 at all. WW1 is what its mostly associated with today but its older than that. I think either the Crimean War or the US Civil war (Vicksburg) were the first wars where widespread and complex trenches in combination with rifles and artillery were used in a way similar to WW1.

Yeah some of the trench works on either side are impressive but lots of places are just going to be a muddy hole in the ground that was hastily dug. The ones with the nice art, movie theaters, and pizza ovens are possible to keep clean but not the dumpy ones.

Lets face it, the dumpy ones are probably going to be much more common than the nice ones.

Set
Oct 30, 2005

In war news:
I have shared reports about the forced relocation of the civilian population in Kherson before as well, and it seems the Russian regime has now "finished" them. Who knows where they are and what has happened to the former local population now.
Link:https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12314941/64-3-117475

quote:

Russia's Kherson puppet regime: Civilian "evacuations" completed

The "evacuations" of civilians in the Russian-occupied city of Kherson in southern Ukraine have been completed, says Sergei Aksyonov, the prime minister of Russia's puppet regime in Crimea.

- The work to move the residents from the west side of the Dnieper to safe areas of Russia has been completed, Aksyonov said.

Earlier, Aksyonov visited the city of Kherson with the Deputy Head of the Russian Presidential Administration, Sergei Kiriyenko, to check the status of the relocation of residents.

Russia claims that Ukraine is planning an attack on the city of Kherson. According to Ukraine, there has been a forced population transfer and a propaganda show carried out by Russia.

Source: AFP

The general secretary of NATO Stoltenberg gives an interview and says what we all know, a victory for Putin now will lead to emboldened dictators world wide that can wage their own wars of conquest and just point towards the big sign saying "MULTIPOLAR WORLD" to justify themselves. I am not a big fan of NATO, but it is clearly now vital for democracy to survive globally. So gently caress Putin for making that necessary as well.
Link: https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12314941/64-3-117458

quote:

NATO's Stoltenberg: Russia's victory in Ukraine would send a dangerous message to autocrats

According to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Russia's victory in Ukraine must be prevented because it would send a dangerous message to other autocratic leaders in the world.

Stoltenberg shared his views in an interview published by Politico magazine today.

Stoltenberg warns that a Russian victory would signal not only to President Vladimir Putin but also to the Chinese leadership that they can achieve their goals by using brute military force.

Ukraine's recent successes in Ukraine would not have been possible without the support of the members of the military alliance NATO, Stoltenberg reminded and appealed for continued support.

STT

The Institute for the Study of War released an analysis on Putin's speech yesterday, and draws conclusions that have been clear from the start. That Putin's goals for Ukraine are genocidal.
Link: https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12314941/64-3-117443

quote:

ISW: Putin's thinking makes negotiations impossible

The Institute for the Study of War (ISW), an American think tank that actively follows Russia's war in Ukraine, commented on Russian President Vladimir Putin's speeches at a public meeting in Moscow yesterday.

Putin claimed that "the only real guarantor of Ukraine's right to self-determination" could be Russia, which Putin said "created" Ukraine.

Putin further claimed as a "historical fact" that Ukrainians and Russians were basically "the same people" that had been wrongly divided into "different states".

ISW estimates that Putin's thinking makes negotiations between Ukraine and Russia impossible, as Putin rejects the idea of ​​Ukraine's right to self-determination and its own national identity.

According to ISW, because of Putin's speeches and Russia's actions, it is necessary to consider whether Russia's war against Ukraine fulfills the characteristics of genocide, as genocide is defined as acts aimed at destroying a national, ethnic, racial or religious group in whole or in part.

Set fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Oct 29, 2022

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

PC LOAD LETTER posted:

Lets face it, the dumpy ones are probably going to be much more common than the nice ones.

For sure, hopefully not for Ukrainians though!

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

whomst among us is afraid of a little mud on our helmet?

RDM
Apr 6, 2009

I LOVE FINLAND AND ESPECIALLY FINLAND'S MILITARY ALLIANCES, GOOGLE FINLAND WORLD WAR 2 FOR MORE INFORMATION SLAVA UKRANI
Listen, if it's not Nazi fascism to not want your country raped and genocided by a neighboring semipower, I just don't know what Nazi fascism is anymore.

All of this "resisting invasion" bloodlust has got to stop and until it does I'm going to have to stalk people and maybe do some light racisms.

There's no other way.

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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

Have any Western countries offered asylum to Russian conscientious objectors yet?

Back in September the White House did make a statement that all Russians seeking to escape service in this illegal war are welcome to come and apply for asylum in the US.

That being said, the lawyer I've hired to handle my Russian family member's cases says that it's the same process as any other asylum case. You've got to prove that you fear persecution based on your religion/race/ethnicity/etc.

Luckily, the Russian government has been kind enough to pass actual laws, and policies, specifically targeting particular religious beliefs (mostly protestant types). One of my male cousins was actually arrested for preaching against the war, was released on bail pending a court date, and escaped the country before the date.

A thing I've found interesting in spending a lot of time in Ukraine and Russia is that the protestant/evangelical Christians there are 100% against military service. So much so that the mandatory service required of all young men generally puts them on ditch/grave digging detail for that time period because they refuse to take a rifle and train.

My sister, who lives in Ukraine in an area occupied by Russians, had their church firebombed and any Christians who are not the "correct" kind are being treated as American spies. We're working on a plan to get her out hopefully soon.

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