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a year or so ago my mom sold the house we grew up in because it was basically too much house for her and my step dad, they couldn't maintain it and couldn't really afford it. some house flippers offered to buy it as is. it's up on zillow now and goddamn it looks like poo poo. every thing is white, grey or black. they painted the brick fireplaces white and the wood bookcases black. grey carpet everywhere on the 2nd floor, the first floor is either grey tile or fake grey hardwood (it's not real hardwood because the house never had the real thing). same thing for the basement. although the new owners are going to enjoy the basement flooding and ruining that nice new carpet lmao why is this the new standard for house flipping, it's so boring and sterile and ugly. like the house needed renovations but it looks like an office now  
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Have you ever seen a rich person condo or modern house? They all look like and are built like offices too.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:32
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Two million bucks https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/320-Fort-Duquesne-Blvd-F26_Pittsburgh_PA_15222_M37326-94109
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Oct 28, 2022 17:33
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Yeah boring sterile is one of the options for rich decorations besides gold and gaudy and gross hunter cabin
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Oct 28, 2022 17:35
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People like sterile. Clean pallette, they can go hog wild!* * - leave them white because they're indecisive
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Oct 28, 2022 17:35
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It's basically the least "offensive" interior decoration that realtors/HGTV like to see. The widest possible net cast also means the most boring slop imaginable. The upside is that it's so bland you can pretty much paint/decorate it immediately for a drastic visual difference. What really fucks with me is that people who buy those kinds of flips leave it as is.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:41
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a bit more pricy to replace the floors that look like dead trees there are plenty of amazing modernist homes, dating from the 1950s to today
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Oct 28, 2022 17:47
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Lazer Vampire Jr. posted:It's basically the least "offensive" interior decoration that realtors/HGTV like to see. The widest possible net cast also means the most boring slop imaginable. yeah I get that but it looks like they took a lot of the wood accents and stuff (which was actual wood not laminate bullshit) and either got rid of it or painted over it. i dont' get it but i'm not a house flipper
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Oct 28, 2022 17:49
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Lazer Vampire Jr. posted:It's basically the least "offensive" interior decoration that realtors/HGTV like to see. The widest possible net cast also means the most boring slop imaginable. Yeah the whole idea of having like a generic baseline makes sense but yeah people just live like that
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Oct 28, 2022 17:51
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spacemang_spliff posted:i dont' get it but i'm not a house flipper “updated “ is a basically like checklist they run through for currently in trim and finishes to match what folks see on the tv. my wife and I love honey oak and wood finishes which is currently extremely out.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:56
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actionjackson posted:a bit more pricy to replace the floors that look like dead trees there are luxury vinyl options that aren’t grey or white that aren’t any different in price.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:57
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A Bakers Cousin posted:Yeah the whole idea of having like a generic baseline makes sense but yeah people just live like that Most people don't really put effort into things in general. You sell houses like this based on the fact that: 1) Almost no one actually hates it so much that they wouldn't live in it and 2) People can pretend they'll make it their own, even though they won't
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Bar Ran Dun posted:there are luxury vinyl options that aren’t grey or white that aren’t any different in price. yeah I have "wood" (laminate) because I can't do hardwood. I don't see why people actually like LVP, it has some major issues with getting damaged due to direct sunlight. you can get a laminate, engineered hardwood, or real hardwood.
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Oct 28, 2022 18:25
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Morbus posted:Can I buy an affordable home in Pittsburgh? Does anyone have any information about this? https://www.zillow.com/homes/Pittsburgh,-PA_rb/ 121 house listings under 80k 179 under 100k This isn't unique either, there's lots of cities like this. Is it "decaying"? I guess, but it's livable.
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iCe-CuBe. posted:https://www.zillow.com/homes/Pittsburgh,-PA_rb/ Did you actually look at those listings? There are technically livable houses in there, but the majority at those price points are gutted or condemned. This is by far the nicest listing I could find under $100k: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7535-Short-St-Pittsburgh-PA-15218/11383724_zpid/ And the fact that this house has been there for almost 200 days screams that something is incredibly wrong with this property. The existence of listings drastically below median market price does not mean there are actually houses you can live in at those price points.
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Paradoxish posted:Did you actually look at those listings? There are technically livable houses in there, but the majority at those price points are gutted or condemned. There are plenty of listings there I could live in, sure. Here's just one at random https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/422-Mifflin-Rd-Pittsburgh-PA-15207/11640745_zpid/. Compared to 99.999999% of the world a bunch of these houses are straight up opulent
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Paradoxish posted:The existence of listings drastically below median market price does not mean there are actually houses you can live in at those price points. and fwiw, I currently live in a house at these price points also in the Midwest
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Paradoxish posted:This is by far the nicest listing I could find under $100k: That's in Rankin, directly in the shadow of a massive steel mill that pumps all sorts of nasty poo poo into the air.
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actionjackson posted:yeah I have "wood" (laminate) because I can't do hardwood. I don't see why people actually like LVP, it has some major issues with getting damaged due to direct sunlight. you can get a laminate, engineered hardwood, or real hardwood. my experience with it is the opposite. it’s much more durable than laminate or engineered hardwood.
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iCe-CuBe. posted:There are plenty of listings there I could live in, sure. Here's just one at random https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/422-Mifflin-Rd-Pittsburgh-PA-15207/11640745_zpid/. Compared to 99.999999% of the world a bunch of these houses are straight up opulent ditto for this one too, the stuff in the Monongahela Valley around there is in an inversion area full of steel mill exhaust that will give you cancer. e: That house is thirty feet from an active freight rail line 
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Yea I wouldn't want to live next to a railway. But TBH I can put up with a lot. at least on the inside a bunch of these houses look nicer than where I currently live.
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Xaris posted:lol. the bottom-end market is where all the institutional money is. that quote is incredible
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spacemang_spliff posted:a year or so ago my mom sold the house we grew up in because it was basically too much house for her and my step dad, they couldn't maintain it and couldn't really afford it. some house flippers offered to buy it as is. it's up on zillow now and goddamn it looks like poo poo. this is every house on hgtv
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iCe-CuBe. posted:Yea I wouldn't want to live next to a railway. But TBH I can put up with a lot. at least on the inside a bunch of these houses look nicer than where I currently live. yeah, thing is when people talk about "cheap" cities it's usually just the bottom end that's cheap. Once you start moving into desirable newer housing these cities are just as expensive as everywhere else. I paid $120K for an old house but I can walk eight blocks and find houses going for a half million.
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spacemang_spliff posted:a year or so ago my mom sold the house we grew up in because it was basically too much house for her and my step dad, they couldn't maintain it and couldn't really afford it. some house flippers offered to buy it as is. it's up on zillow now and goddamn it looks like poo poo. No lovely barn door bullshit. 3 painted-over black mold patches out of 5.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:yeah, thing is when people talk about "cheap" cities it's usually just the bottom end that's cheap. Once you start moving into desirable newer housing these cities are just as expensive as everywhere else. I paid $120K for an old house but I can walk eight blocks and find houses going for a half million. Median sales price for any particular market usually doesn't lie. If homes are selling for drastically less than the typical listing, there's usually a pretty good reason. There aren't tons of buyers out there turning up their noses at perfectly good properties and settling for nothing instead.
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Kreeblah posted:No lovely barn door bullshit. 3 painted-over black mold patches out of 5. lol yeah my mom tried to do a lot of work on that house including getting rid of black mold in the basement (it used to flood from the walk out patio that my dad built drunk off his rear end) I guess they painted over whatever was left the real lol is the door in the middle right in the second picture. that door wasn't there before, it was a hallway that lead to 2 bedrooms that my dad half built after my parents divorced (I think the original idea was that he could rent them out to AA buddies who needed a place to stay for next to nothing). there's no way he actually got a permit to build it, although he did know what he was doing so I assume it passed inspection since that fireplace he put in is still there. I want to walk through the house so I can see what they did with it im shocked that there's no barn doors tbh
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actionjackson posted:yeah I have "wood" (laminate) because I can't do hardwood. I don't see why people actually like LVP, it has some major issues with getting damaged due to direct sunlight. you can get a laminate, engineered hardwood, or real hardwood. obviously real hardwood looks better tho
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bawfuls posted:LVP is more durable and cheaper than those other options cheaper than hardwood for sure, and most engineered, but my laminate flooring was only $2/SF. haven't had any durability issues (even with a dog) and everyone thinks it's real wood this is the thing about LVP and sunlight. obviously it's more of an issue if you are facing south or west https://cleanfax.com/hard-floor-care/luxury-vinyl-lvt-kryptonite/
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spacemang_spliff posted:a year or so ago my mom sold the house we grew up in because it was basically too much house for her and my step dad, they couldn't maintain it and couldn't really afford it. some house flippers offered to buy it as is. it's up on zillow now and goddamn it looks like poo poo. what in the name of industrial prison lighting is going on with that third-down left-hand ceiling fixture?
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:People like sterile. Clean pallette, they can go hog wild!* when my friends were prepping their 100-yr-old victorian for market last year their agent told them to paint all the natural woodwork white & the off-white walls all grey. they had already gotten an offer accepted on a place they were buying tho so they sold their old house without loving it all up.
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Willa Rogers posted:when my friends were prepping their 100-yr-old victorian for market last year their agent told them to paint all the natural woodwork white & the off-white walls all grey. to anyone painting over natural woodwork in their house: gently caress you
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Willa Rogers posted:what in the name of industrial prison lighting is going on with that third-down left-hand ceiling fixture? it's called linear suspension lighting https://www.lumens.com/linear-suspension/ it can actually work pretty well in certain locations - not where it is in that picture, but in areas where it's going with the length of what is below it - for example a raised part of a kitchen counter where you often have stools, or a long rectangular table (a 5-6' long light above an 8' long table for example)
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Willa Rogers posted:when my friends were prepping their 100-yr-old victorian for market last year their agent told them to paint all the natural woodwork white & the off-white walls all grey. my 90yr old house had the internal wood painted white. I wish they would have finished it or not painted at all. however I think some of it was painted back before 1980 so I’m not gonna release lead if I can help it.
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:to anyone painting over natural woodwork in their house: gently caress you
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I put in a wood floor once. Not refinished. From scratch. In the middle of august in South Carolina. For minimum wage which iirc was about $5/hour. I don’t know what has come of that floor in the years since but if I were ever to find out somebody had painted it over I’d probably lose my mind. That’s seriously painstaking work to ruin with paint or cover with carpet
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 https://archive.ph/dHANR also 30 year now at... 7.2%? lol amazing
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