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DJExile posted:E: lol of course the bottom of the chart is cropped, click through never!
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I have officially changed my opinion from "the Bruins are going to struggle to make the playoffs this year" to "the Bruins are going to win another Cup for Bergeron"
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Oct 28, 2022 15:43
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Florida has been playing a lot better lately, and Carolina still looks great. The Rangers look better, too. You'd think Toronto/Tampa will pick it up at some point. The rest of the East looks pretty meh so far even if some of the bad teams are vastly improved. Burning question: Are the Caps dropping out of the playoffs for the Devils or Senators?
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Oct 28, 2022 16:17
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Thanks for this. Also than you everyone for links and options, but I'm sure I'd have to pay money to dig deeper. Money Puck did have a good level of detail for part of what I'm looking to find at least. It helps with the frustration of watching shot after piss poor shot not barely bother Demko last night. Well over half their shots are from low quality chances, and when they do get close, there are few second chances until you get to the third period. The shot map is just Hakstol hockey.  At least the Minnesota v Ottawa game was really pretty good. The Sens are going to be pretty good this year, and all it took was Daddy Scrooge to die. And another Tkachuk decided he needed to fight Matt Dumba after a clean open ice hit on the puck. The fighting after clean hits is getting really annoying. I wish they'd toss more instigators into the mix when someone "defends" the guy who just got hit. If the guy who gets hit wants to get up and fight about it, that's at least the two people involved in it.
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Oct 28, 2022 16:24
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T-Bone posted:Florida has been playing a lot better lately, and Carolina still looks great. The Rangers look better, too. You'd think Toronto/Tampa will pick it up at some point. The Caps are absolutely falling out of playoff contention. Their depth players have been great and Kuemper has been the improvement they hoped for, but the core has dropped off noticeably. Carlson has been trash. Ovi has only 1 goal 5 on 5 so far. Brown is out indefinitely. They can't even win a faceoff. Looks grim! It is funny though to look at the standings and see Philly leading the Metro and Buffalo, Ottawa, NJ and Detroit tied for the wildcard.
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Oct 28, 2022 16:37
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T-Bone posted:Florida has been playing a lot better lately, and Carolina still looks great. The Rangers look better, too. You'd think Toronto/Tampa will pick it up at some point. Rangers are playing better but getting poo poo results right now  Stupid analytics
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Oct 28, 2022 17:03
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WHY ARE THE DOGSHIT GARBAGE FLYERS ON TOP OF THE METRO. THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANTED.
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triple sulk posted:WHY ARE THE DOGSHIT GARBAGE FLYERS ON TOP OF THE METRO. THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANTED. It’s probably cause of Torts, lol.
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triple sulk posted:WHY ARE THE DOGSHIT GARBAGE FLYERS ON TOP OF THE METRO. THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANTED. First they finish 9th in the conference and miss out on Bedard, and then they suffer the Torts Collapse
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Oct 28, 2022 17:17
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T-Bone posted:You'd think Toronto/Tampa will pick it up at some point. More of a hope than think, at this point. A bunch of eggheads said they still think Matthews will win the Richard again but I'm not so sure that I share their confidence. He's playing well enough but it's unclear if he has lingering wrist troubles and is forcing himself to take one-timers instead of sick wicked wristers. Also Mark Giordano has not been on for a single 5v5 GA but I'm expecting the defense's mediocre xGA to catch up to them when Samsonov crashes back down to Earth.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:26
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T-Bone posted:You'd think Toronto/Tampa will pick it up at some point. For what it's worth the Leafs look like garbage, turns out not addressing the D at all in the offseason is kind of a big deal. The top 6 has been a little snakebitten or whatever but all of Sandin/Holl/Mete are predictably dreadful. Also Muzzin spent all last year either injured or sucking terribly and apparently management just expected that to... not continue? For some reason? Sometime in November with Liljegren/Benn back maybe things get a little better but there's gonna be a lot of frustrating Leafs games in store for at least another couple weeks I think.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:34
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Eric the Mauve posted:First they finish 9th in the conference and miss out on Bedard, and then they suffer the Torts Collapse Can’t miss out on Bedard if you trade your first at the deadline for a rental.
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Oct 28, 2022 17:35
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The flyers were never going to get Bedard and honestly even if Bettman froze their ping pong ball or whatever I do not at all trust anyone in that front office to draft him
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Koopa Kid posted:Sometime in November with Liljegren/Benn back maybe things get a little better but there's gonna be a lot of frustrating Leafs games in store for at least another couple weeks I think. Wait, we're holding out hope for Jordie Benn now?
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Oct 28, 2022 17:44
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Hart rocking a .950 and 8 GSAA already while the Flyers post a sub 40% xG is both insane and very Flyers. Only Dallas and Buffalo post higher all situation PDOs. New York is on the correct side of most every metric except actual outcomes. They currently post the worst all situation shooting% in the league and 4th worst 5v5. That should even out eventually and they'll be back to annoyingly good. Toronto is interesting because they aren't underperforming their fancies by that much. The 5v5 shooting is 3rd worst currently, but it's balanced by their .925 sv% so only a PDO of 99 vs NYRs 97. With some time this afternoon I'm hoping to compile some random thoughts on the Pens 'cause the team has been incredibly Jeckyl/Hyde within every game. rex rabidorum vires fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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Oct 28, 2022 17:47
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Didn't the Rangers have the same finishing issues last year?
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Didn't the Rangers have the same finishing issues last year? I think he's talking about the Islanders but maybe I'm wrong. The Rangers last year had notably good finishing iirc? I thought their whole gimmick was being bad analytically but having strong finishing ability and an outrageously good goalie Though also if memory serves the Rangers improved analytically after the deadline
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Oct 28, 2022 18:29
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Predeadline their big problem was poor 5v5 play last year.
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Oct 28, 2022 18:31
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I've always wondered. In the NBA former GM John Hollinger had the expression "take the clubs out the bag" Trade the GRITTY VETERANS so the coach is basically forced to play his prospects. I can't think I've seen this happen in the NBA. Does anyone do this?
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Oct 28, 2022 18:35
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Isentropy posted:I've always wondered. In the NBA former GM John Hollinger had the expression "take the clubs out the bag" Montreal and Chicago are doing a fair attempt at it this year. Not all of the vets of course, but it’s been clear they’ve dumped as much dead weight that they could to play cheap prospects and ELCs.
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Jhet posted:Montreal and Chicago are doing a fair attempt at it this year. Not all of the vets of course, but it’s been clear they’ve dumped as much dead weight that they could to play cheap prospects and ELCs. Yup that answers it. Chicago especially is all but hinting they want the vets to get out the door and trade them somewhere favourable. Montreal has too.
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As soon as Carter Hart's pumpkin bursts for the third consecutive year the Flyers will comfortably settle into 10th-15th poo poo, even if he gets back to his .915 days they're gonna be bad still quote:With some time this afternoon I'm hoping to compile some random thoughts on the Pens 'cause the team has been incredibly Jeckyl/Hyde within every game. Yeah these were exact words I was typing for the Pens in that post but I didn't want to summon 3 pages of Doomer Pittsburgh chat T-Bone fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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Rangers are shooting 7.4% against a league average of 10.1%, so that's in reference to them. They've run into bad luck, but there's also some apparent issues. First, Halak has let in quite a few soft goals. He's 37 and his save percentage has been below league average in his 19 and 17 starts in the last two years. He might just not be an NHL goalie anymore. Second, the third pairing are two 21-year-olds (actually, Zac Jones just turned 22 a few days ago) with 43 and 22 games of NHL experience. There's going to be growing pains, but their 7th D who gets spot duty is 24-year old "veteran" Libor Hajek in his 5th season, having played 94 games across the previous four seasons. Braden Schneider might be hitting a sophomore slump, especially without a veteran partner. There's no way to get the kids experience other than playing them, and a veteran 6/7 is an easy deadline acquisition, but the third pairing is also impacted heavily by playing a lot with... The fourth line, which is bad. Really bad. Ryan Reaves is a locker room leader but not an NHL player. Ryan Carpenter has some utility as a PKer and has some good moments where he gets the puck in the neutral zone, but he doesn't pass the eye test and the stats point to him being atrocious but great at defense. Sammy Blais has not looked good, but he also missed nearly a full year so he'll get a pass while he acclimates to playing again. The problem is, the third pairing and fourth line are atrocious and seem to be accountable for a goal against every night. I'd give Domingue and Rydahl a few games to see how things work out, but the club is trying to accrue some cap space before the deadline, so they're not keen on hitting the cap.
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eXXon posted:Wait, we're holding out hope for Jordie Benn now? The baseline is "better than Victor Mete" and hope is the active word
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Zodijackylite posted:Rangers are shooting 7.4% against a league average of 10.1%, so that's in reference to them. They've run into bad luck, but there's also some apparent issues. Yeah and I'm not sure that it's a case of "low percentage shots propping up their analytics", they've got some real good looks but haven't been finishing them. So...ultimately just have to work through it. Dunno how the analytics grade out for the third pairing and fourth line. They need to sit Reaves for a bit at least and run a faster 4th line. Chytil getting hurt (again) also weakens that 3rd line a lot and puts more pressure on the top six. They're not going to just ditch Reaves this year completely but I think he needs to take a seat for awhile. I dunno, it's a frustrating start int hat they are doing a lot of thigns right but not all the things right at the same time
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The Rangers are shooting 2% lower than last year at 5v5 (6.5 vs 8.6) and receiving .902 instead of .926. goaltending. Improve the shooting and they're fine. Improve both and they're back to last year. Their undrelyings are good and if I have some time and sobriety I can take a look at their depth forward numbers. After I do the Pens thing. Sorry T-Bone. For now we're about 10% into the season so I was going to do a very quick and ugly full league 'How things are looking and would I be worried'. Anaheim - Still re-building. If they were supposed to turn the corner they haven't and instead hit a wall. Arizona - Exactly who we thought they would be. Worst team in the NHL and should remain that way. Boston - Better than I thought they would be. Excellent underlyings. Performing to what spreadsheet says they should. Buffalo - 55% goals for on 45% xG. PDO monsters. Music stops at some point. Calgary - Over-performing on their finishing so far. Lots of coinflip in their stats. Weak division, but still trying to get going and gel. Played an extremely difficult schedule so far with only the Knights and Sabres as non-playoff teams so far. So I would expect them to improve in the fancies. Carolina - Scoring more than they should, but not in a concerning way. Who we thought they would be. Chicago - Bad. As expected. Colorado - Dealing with injuries. Goaltending has propped up their 5% shooting. Putting points on the board. Wouldn't worry. Columbus - 45% goals for 49% xG shooting 11% but getting .876 sv%. They bad. Might be a little better. Not much though. That's all the time for now tune in next time......
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things continue to go great at Arizona state https://twitter.com/ryanjlind/status/1586016248931835904
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rex rabidorum vires posted:The Rangers are shooting 2% lower than last year at 5v5 (6.5 vs 8.6) and receiving .902 instead of .926. goaltending. Improve the shooting and they're fine. Improve both and they're back to last year. Their undrelyings are good and if I have some time and sobriety I can take a look at their depth forward numbers. After I do the Pens thing. Sorry T-Bone. For now we're about 10% into the season so I was going to do a very quick and ugly full league 'How things are looking and would I be worried'. Igor has also had that weird thing with goalies where when he faces a ton of shots he's really good, if he faces less than 30 then he's had more trouble getting locked in and making the big saves when they come, so that might be an adjustment for him if that keeps up. And yeah, Halak had a good game against Winipeg but has struggled in his other starts
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rex rabidorum vires posted:The Rangers are shooting 2% lower than last year at 5v5 (6.5 vs 8.6) and receiving .902 instead of .926. goaltending. Improve the shooting and they're fine. Improve both and they're back to last year. Their undrelyings are good and if I have some time and sobriety I can take a look at their depth forward numbers. After I do the Pens thing. Sorry T-Bone. For now we're about 10% into the season so I was going to do a very quick and ugly full league 'How things are looking and would I be worried'. I'll be interested to see your indepth analysis but a cursory look at the Pens analytical numbers indicates they're fine. They've 8th in 5v5 expected goals. They do have some disturbing trends like being 17th in 5v5 shot attempt(corsi)%, and Dumoulin/Carter having sub 50% xgoals at 5v5. The Dumoulin part being particularly troubling because the Pens are relying on him as a top pair defenseman and he is dragging that pair down. But I guess despite their poor ranking in shot attempts they're still doing well in terms of expected goals. From a game by game basis they carried xgoals against Ari/Tb/Cgy(what?)/Cbj and were behind against La/Edmonton/Montreal(lol) I don't really get how they won the xgoal battle against Calgary but I guess they played well enough after that really bad first period.
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Rangers have been pretty unlucky I think they will even out. I would like to remodel that 4th line tho, obviously the 3rd line is what it is with injuries right now but we don’t need to be playing Carpenter and Reaves every night. Blais has looked totally lost I think it’s almost time to start getting worried about him.
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WeaponX posted:Rangers have been pretty unlucky I think they will even out. I would like to remodel that 4th line tho, obviously the 3rd line is what it is with injuries right now but we don’t need to be playing Carpenter and Reaves every night. Blais has looked totally lost I think it’s almost time to start getting worried about him. I think Blais will come around but using him on the fourth line for now is best I would rather get a look at Rydhal at this point than keep running carpenter out there but that might take awhile to convince the coach
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ThinkTank posted:https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/1586069976578158592?t=5d1VHMdmvm_MSLqjX4m3Sw&s=19 That's... not bad? I mean, I don't know why the Canucks keep picking up lovely centres, but getting Ethan Bear with salary retained will probably be okay.
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I don't understand why Carolina extended Bear in the first place. At least he'll get a chance now.
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eXXon posted:I don't understand why Carolina extended Bear in the first place. At least he'll get a chance now. The bar for Bear to succeed in Vancouver is low. Like, really low. Like, Jules-Verne-Journey-To-The-Centre-Of-The-Earth low.
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Correction: the hope is now that the Leafs will get back a defenseman better than Filip Král in the near future https://twitter.com/dalter/status/1586090940187299840?s=20&t=x-lEo5eshJlrEAeQucP-Sw Only took Keefe 4 games to realize that Victor Mete is indistinguishable from random AHL garbage
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Whats up with Lucas Raymond and why is he stinking up my fantasy team. I can see he's getting like 20 minutes a night but he's not doing anything.
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I should probably mention that Calen Addison is turning out to be a good offensive defenseman. He’s great on the PP this year and aside from taking a couple penalties against Ottawa he’s been playing well defensively as well. (I’m ignoring the first three games of the Minnesota season, they appear to have been outliers possibly.) I don’t know that he’d have been given the time to develop in Pittsburgh, but I’m feeling like that trade worked out in at least that direction. Zucker is at least making the scoresheet in the other direction this year. I can see Beniers winning the Calder this year already though. He’s playing well and scoring even with the Kraken’s issues. It won’t surprise me if Addison does get some votes too.
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