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Nyoro posted:I'm really late to Zhongli's first story quest but wow I think the god of salt is the one god that has gotten a worse rap than Nahida so far??? That we know of...
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I was apparently understating Nilou's special blooms; apparently they can now hit for 30k. It's also much easier using this team now that I know how she works.
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Oct 28, 2022 23:58
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Yeah, in plain bloom builds no character or weapon is going to influence damage more than Nilou. It locks you into a specific team type, but boy does it make that team worthwhile.
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Actually, Collei's not so bad. With Fav bow, her energy is good enough that she can use the strong A/D/C deepwoods I've been picking up, and her being a bow is actually occasionally useful. Gonna actually level her and only use DMC for teams with hard 20s rotations I think. Opinion salvaged at the last minute  Edit: actually I think someone said something similar before and I ignored them lol. In my defense, the 20s teams I usually used DMC in also had Raiden in them, so I ignored her energy problems for a long time. MoonCrab fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Oct 29, 2022 |
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Oct 29, 2022 17:43
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I'm using collei because you need a dendro for sumeru puzzles presumably and she is my only choice 
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Nyoro posted:I'm using collei because you need a dendro for sumeru puzzles presumably and she is my only choice Literally why she's permafree now, as far as I can tell.
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Oct 29, 2022 18:06
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Nyoro posted:I'm using collei because you need a dendro for sumeru puzzles presumably and she is my only choice Most of them have dendroculus things nearby, so you could use anyone's charged attack/aimed shot with those. I wouldn't recommend it, because it's slow as hell, but it's technically doable. Unless you tried doing this with yelan, because then it's a crapshoot as to what the stupid dendro thing will actually target. But yes, collei's pretty good, just not fischl. Also her na chain has her throwing boomerangs, and that's pretty neat.
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Oct 29, 2022 18:17
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Zenostein posted:But yes, collei's pretty good, just not fischl. Also her na chain has her throwing boomerangs, and that's pretty neat. There needs to be a Dendro Fischl that spawns a plant that attacks enemies with its roots like a StarCraft Lurker.
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Ytlaya posted:There needs to be a Dendro Fischl that spawns a plant that attacks enemies with its roots like a StarCraft Lurker. Make them plant a seed in the ground that either spawns a pea shooter from Plants vs Zombies or a Saibaman
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Oct 29, 2022 19:41
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I still don't understand why they won't put the Gnostic Chorus on the battle pass so I can just be rid of the janky PS4 app for good. It's super inconvenient for people long term to do it this way considering what if they registered with a phone or their phone breaks, or their Playstation hardware breaks down and they just don't have one for a while but still want to top up from another device. It literally loses them potential income in a variety of scenarios.
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Oct 29, 2022 20:44
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Nyoro posted:I'm using collei because you need a dendro for sumeru puzzles presumably and she is my only choice That's what dendro MC is for.
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Oct 29, 2022 20:51
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Nyoro posted:I'm really late to Zhongli's first story quest but wow I think the god of salt is the one god that has gotten a worse rap than Nahida so far??? I think what happened to both of them is far too tragic for words like "better" and "worse" to create meaningful absolute comparisons. But, if I wanted to compare them, I might say that the God of Salt suffered a crueller fate, as a pacifist born in a time of war, but her people turned on her in a moment of desperation. Nahida has been more cruelly treated, in smaller ways but constant, with everyone who knows the truth of the Akasha also choosing to harden their hearts.
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Oct 29, 2022 21:48
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Venti and Zhongli’s “party every night” and “beloved and efficient ruler of a nation” lives seem to be pretty nice compared to the more recent archons we’ve met.
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The next archon’s going to be revealed as suffering from a curse which causes them to spill hot soup down their front every time they try to eat it. It only gets darker from there.
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Do we know what 4* weapons will be on the next banner? I need to make a decision soon. Against my better judgment I'm wishing on a weapon banner cuz I'm peeved about getting a 2nd skyward spine on the standard banner. I'd like something else, any 5* weapon that's not the skyward spine or aquila favonia. At least with the weapon banner my inevitable 3rd skyward spine can't be at 82 pity. 
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Real Cool Catfish posted:Venti and Zhongli’s “party every night” and “beloved and efficient ruler of a nation” lives seem to be pretty nice compared to the more recent archons we’ve met.
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Zenostein posted:I just gave it a whirl, and it seems like unless you're in exactly the right range (i.e. basically melee range) autoaim does some weird poo poo. Yelan was blasting at the floor and happily shooting under it when it flew up, until I took a few steps forward. Very odd. I hadn't noticed, because the only thing bow users are needed for is spamming arrows in the general area of it's head/wings when it flies up anyway. Did a run on this boss today with Fischl, and Oz has the same problem. If Oz isn't in the right range, he doesn't fire. Weird that Hoyoverse programmed this boss that way. Aside from that think I'm going to save this boss for co-op runs. While it's doable solo (much in the same way as the Ruin Serpent for Yelan/Heizou mats) co-op certainly makes it less of a slog. Speaking of boss run co-op... has anyone who has done co-op runs on the Primo Geovishap ever noticed that if Barbara is on the team that when it does its burrow/pop-up it tends to run towards her? The group I play with has seen that A LOT. Kinda wondering if the Geovishap has a thing for idols.
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I generally don't pay attention to the plot, but (spoilers for new players who haven't gone through Mondstadt/Liyue) what ever happened to Gnosisquest 2020? Like that was very much a thing that seems to have been dropped entirely because Ei doesn't have a gnosis for reasons and Sig got vaporized. Maybe they decided lightning girl was, for once, an actual archon you shouldn't gently caress with but I don't remember it even coming up.
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Mailer posted:I generally don't pay attention to the plot, but (spoilers for new players who haven't gone through Mondstadt/Liyue) what ever happened to Gnosisquest 2020? Like that was very much a thing that seems to have been dropped entirely because Ei doesn't have a gnosis for reasons and Sig got vaporized. Maybe they decided lightning girl was, for once, an actual archon you shouldn't gently caress with but I don't remember it even coming up. Ei had a Gnosis, but she gave it to Yae for safekeeping when she went to meditate inside her own mind. And Yae traded it to Scaramouche in exchange for the Traveler's safety. Nahida's Gnosis is also outside of her control and is being used by the Sages of Sumeru to power the internet. Presumably the Doctor will take it after this arc. Basically the Fatui end up taking it every time, but even as early as Zhongli the archons don't really seem to care. Clarste fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Oct 30, 2022 |
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Mailer posted:I generally don't pay attention to the plot, but (spoilers for new players who haven't gone through Mondstadt/Liyue) what ever happened to Gnosisquest 2020? Like that was very much a thing that seems to have been dropped entirely because Ei doesn't have a gnosis for reasons and Sig got vaporized. Maybe they decided lightning girl was, for once, an actual archon you shouldn't gently caress with but I don't remember it even coming up. They very specifically cover this. Ei left her gnosis with Yae Miko for safekeeping before her 500-year nap. Yae has been holding onto it the whole time, but in the Sangonomiya island arc she ends up trading it to Scaramouche to save the Traveler after they get owned by him in a cutscene. here's the cutscene. Then a bit later in the Labyrinth Warriors event Childe had dialogue about Scara going AWOL with the gnosis and the fatui not knowing wtf he was doing.
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Clarste posted:Ei had a Gnosis, but she gave it to Yae for safekeeping when when went to meditate inside her own mind. And Yae traded it to Scaramouche in exchange for the Traveler's safety. Nahida's Gnosis is also outside of her control and is being used by the Sages of Sumeru to power the internet. Presumably the Doctor will take it after this arc. Basically the Fatui end up taking it every time, but even as early as Zhongli the archons don't really seem to care. It also doesn't particularly seem to affect them either. Like with Venti and Zhongli it kind of makes sense, they're both trying to give up the role and power. Raiden just keeps being a god abd doesn't seem to notice, comment or do anything less godly in the stories that follow. So I'm kinda left wondering what the heck a gnosis actually does.
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Coolness Averted posted:It also doesn't particularly seem to affect them either. Like with Venti and Zhongli it kind of makes sense, they're both trying to give up the role and power. Raiden just keeps being a god abd doesn't seem to notice, comment or do anything less godly in the stories that follow. So I'm kinda left wondering what the heck a gnosis actually does. I think the only one we know does something is the geo gnosis. Zhongli can no longer create mora without it. Other than that, we know that they are specifically tied to celestia. I don't think it's said but i suspect they were only given to the archons after the archon war, and it's clear that the archon's don't need them for their day to day power.
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We know the dendro gnosis powers the Akasha and it's hinted at the Electro gnosis let Ei create the puppets. On another note, is the Cyno quest the first time we see Paimon display aerial acrobatics? She's really zipping around. Before it was implied she was just hovering. In the Childe fight, she not only falls when the floor collapses, she even hits the ground.
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The Gnoses don't do anything on their own, but if you collect all seven of them, you can summon a divine dragon to grant you a single wish.
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FractalSandwich posted:The Gnoses don't do anything on their own, but if you collect all seven of them, you can summon a divine dragon to grant you a single wish. my wish: Dehya to stomp on me
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These suspicious food descriptions are really something special    
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I would still gladly eat the first two
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The game needs a feast mechanic where you invite a set number of characters to eat a set number of dishes and get a mini cutscene and friendship points. The food-lore is going to waste.
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Clarste posted:*learning me some stuff* Thanks. I'm waaaay behind on my 3.x content and had to turboskip through a mountain of the late 2.x content in order to do events, so that was all a mystery.
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Nyoro posted:my wish: Dehya to stomp on me -10 Dunyarzad points
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Garrand posted:I think the only one we know does something is the geo gnosis. Zhongli can no longer create mora without it. Other than that, we know that they are specifically tied to celestia. I don't think it's said but i suspect they were only given to the archons after the archon war, and it's clear that the archon's don't need them for their day to day power. Venti mentioned in this latest event that he was glad all anyone wished for was a sign he was there, because he can't do as much now. I figure the Gnosis has a lot of an Archon's power, but nowhere near all of it--probably because, as you suggest, they were all already at least minor gods beforehand. Doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to put Venti and Zhongli a bit above most Vision users, and presumably Ei a lot higher up because while they drank wine and ran a country, she studied the blade.
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For whatever reason, it seems the gnosis is what is holding the massive powers that archons have over lesser gods. Presumably they're all generally better than regular dudes as a matter of experience or something. Even if no god we've met has actually done much fighting after that war ended. Happy Underpants posted:The game needs a feast mechanic where you invite a set number of characters to eat a set number of dishes and get a mini cutscene and friendship points. The food-lore is going to waste. Last time they tried that, they broke the stupid teapot. Also, it's still funny that they made hu tao's useless passive so you can get all that exciting food lore, and then just decided to let you gently caress up dishes on your own. ReverendHammer posted:Did a run on this boss today with Fischl, and Oz has the same problem. If Oz isn't in the right range, he doesn't fire. Weird that Hoyoverse programmed this boss that way. It's still going to be easier solo, coop adds hp. You probably don't want to hear this, but just gin up a team that does elemental damage and has a bow; when you get the message that it's resisting whatever, it'll fly up. When that happens, find a good angle and just spam arrows at the jet-looking things on the wings, hit both of them and it'll fall, lose its resistance, and be dazed. It's nowhere near as annoying as the snake. I freely admit I only know this because I managed to get an achievement for it, and looked at the rest of them, which spell out its various weaknesses. Can't speak for the second bit, but really now, who wouldn't beeline for the idol over some psycho with a sword? Incidentally, it's absolutely terrible that people in sumeru do not clap when nilou waves a sword in their face.
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Maybe the Primo Geovishap is just targeting the character with the most HP, under the assumption that they're the tank? Or rather, if you program your mob to beeline to the glass cannon types that's a good way to piss off your players. e: I'm assuming that the Barbara in question is running HP/HP/HP and not some kind of ATK/Hydro/Crit meme build. sandorius fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Oct 30, 2022 |
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Is it just me, or is Maguu Kenki like 50 times harder than every other world boss?
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Clarste posted:Is it just me, or is Maguu Kenki like 50 times harder than every other world boss? It's a huge pain in the rear end with it's super wide heavy hitting attack ranges that get even bigger below 50% and all the teleporting around and out of attacks yeah. It's similar to Raiden in that regard as it seems like it's hard wired to do some sort of teleport move the moment you unleash a big burst attack. I also had trouble with the Thunder Manifestation from time to back when I still needed to farm it for stuff. In general Inazuma just seems to have the nastiest all around enemies and the only ever real instance of power creep IMO. Mondstadt/Liyue enemies (with the exception of Azhdaha) are practically a joke compared to the Inazuma ones and Sumeru so far hasn't really had any bosses that do annoying poo poo like teleporting or floating out of range of attacks and is at most on par with Inazuma in terms of HP Pools and enemy stats etc.
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Clarste posted:Is it just me, or is Maguu Kenki like 50 times harder than every other world boss? He is. He dodges with a huge jump,ranged attacks that are harder to avoid, and an AoE that is literally impossible to dodge with smaller characters if you don’t know it’s coming. Blocking ranged attacks with a shield is an extra F U
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Clarste posted:Is it just me, or is Maguu Kenki like 50 times harder than every other world boss? He's 50 times more obnoxious that's for sure So sick of that motherfucker just teleporting out of my perfectly timed nukes...
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Zenostein posted:it's still funny that they made hu tao's useless passive Hu Tao's passive used to be pretty good because not all foods had a duplication percentage chance, specifically stamina consumption reduction foods. Now those foods do have a character, though.
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Kale posted:it's hard wired to do some sort of teleport move the moment you unleash a big burst attack Between his big attacks, Mr. Maguu will decide whether or not you're too close to him. If you're up in his personal space, he'll teleport away. You actually need to back off between attacks, almost to the distance where he nullifies your long-range attacks. When he's getting ready to fire off one of his moves, you get in close, then nullify his damage with shields/parries/burst animations. Deal some damage then back off. Even if you know how to dance with him, he can still stunlock you with a sudden wind blade combo. He really is the worst.
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