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PerniciousKnid posted:It's a fake post, nobody is actually this stupid. based on the angry PMs I got afterwards calling me a leftist coward for violating their free speech I'm not convinced
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Chain probe.
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ScarecrowIntel posted:I was a union worker for many years. I was a steward, chief steward, served on multiple committees including the bargaining committee and bargaining 2 contracts, and served on the executive board for three terms. I watched a strong national union slowly degrade and become a business. I bought into 100% of it. Unity. Solidarity. I bled red. u sound like this lady https://twitter.com/drhannahrobbins/status/1585881886597197824 https://twitter.com/drhannahrobbins/status/1585881892599042049 https://twitter.com/drhannahrobbins/status/1585881898223476736 https://twitter.com/drhannahrobbins/status/1585881904418803714 https://twitter.com/drhannahrobbins/status/1586066227788541952
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Chain probe.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Chain probe.
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vyelkin posted:based on the angry PMs I got afterwards calling me a leftist coward for violating their free speech I'm not convinced post the PMs
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PerniciousKnid posted:nobody is actually this stupid. got some bad news for ya
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ScarecrowIntel posted:I was a union worker for many years. I was a steward, chief steward, served on multiple committees including the bargaining committee and bargaining 2 contracts, and served on the executive board for three terms. I watched a strong national union slowly degrade and become a business. I bought into 100% of it. Unity. Solidarity. I bled red. lmfao
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very wholesome how many mods & iks are contributing to the chain probe.
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Zodium posted:very wholesome how many mods & iks are contributing to the chain probe. The power of collective action at work.
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Thanks to this right-winger, we now have an opportunity for a practice run at countering anti-union propaganda that might get thrown at you from anti-union workers or your boss. In the absolute best case, you might hear some of this rhetoric from a coworker who sincerely has misgivings about the union; you might even flip them to pro-union. If it's your boss, of course, you can't convince them to not follow their orders, but you can make them look dumb in front of your coworkers, which rules. The structure you're going to see here in the anti-union shpiel is:
Step one: ScarecrowIntel posted:I was a union worker for many years. I was a steward, chief steward, served on multiple committees including the bargaining committee and bargaining 2 contracts, and served on the executive board for three terms. I watched a strong national union slowly degrade and become a business. I bought into 100% of it. Unity. Solidarity. I bled red. ScarecrowIntel posted:When union leadership says "the membership are the union" it is an absolute lie. The union leaders at the top have no issue taking your money but are stingy when it comes to spending it on things that do not include a trip for them, extra pay, milage reimbursement, and meals. If the case is not lock down win forget about arbitration. Unfortunately, most of the story here is probably true. There are a lot of conservative old-timers in unions that think the purpose of a union is just to get better wages, benefits, and working conditions for the in-group. These people often overlap with selfish union leadership who are corrupt or self-serving. Way back in the 30s-50s, corporations much preferred working with corrupt, mafia-connected unions to working with "red" unions, because you could just convince one guy of a deal and then it was accepted on behalf of The Union. Leftist unions, on the other hand, have that whole "democracy" thing, which is a huge pain in the rear end for making deals. These things our friend posts (and many others) can be real problems with unions, and we can't just hand-wave them away! However, we have to diagnose the problem properly: it's not "unions are bad, be self-serving instead," it's "we have to, at every point, always be working toward a better, more democratic, more militant, more worker-led, more powerful union." It is very easy for workers to get lulled into a sense of security, especially after years or decades of easy contract negotiations without striking. A quote that McAlevey likes is that the strike is like a muscle, if it's not exercised, it will atrophy. I'd extend this to all sorts of fighting and organizing within a union. If you stop fighting, stop organizing, stop going to union meetings, yeah, this will absolutely happen. It sucks, and it's why creating a union isn't "set it and forget it." Step three: ScarecrowIntel posted:I started a union job with a college education. My mistake was staying there. I work a non-union job now and make much more money, great benefits, and zero drama in the workplace. No more "Us vs Them" mentality, There are jobs that are necessary, jobs that someone has to do. For about ten minutes during the pandemic, we called them "essential workers" before going back to calling them lazy college kids. Doesn't matter if there's 300 people with college degrees in the country or 300 million, someone needs to stock grocery stores, clean floors, collect the trash, and fix up roads. And if those jobs are truly essential, then the people who do them shouldn't be punished with death or malnourishment for being dumb enough to take the job. If you hear talking points like this from someone you're trying to organize, ask them: who is supposed to be working these essential jobs? What life do we want these people to have? What should they do, and what should we do, to ensure that everyone has a life worth living even if they're doing one of society's more difficult jobs? If someone gives you "well my non-union job has better XYZ," say, for how long? How do you know that will continue? Do you have a contract that prevents them from changing these things? What happens if your company gets bought, or gets a new CEO? Have you heard about other companies that suddenly cut wages and benefits? How would your life change if your boss changed their mind about this? What can we do to guarantee these god wages and benefits keep getting better instead of getting reduced? And if you hear someone talk about an "us vs them" mentality, ask them: where do you think this comes from? Who is the "us" and the "them?" Try to guide them to seeing that "us vs them" is actually quite a helpful framework, and that it's the one the bosses already operate from, and workers just need to realize it. ScarecrowIntel posted:(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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lern2code is incredibly funny since that was arrogant liberal.txt back when it first showed up and now that the market has saturated with people who know how to do basic poo poo it's just another job instead of a hot commodity.
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It's almost as though the real purpose of that messaging is to depress labor costs for high-demand fields
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coders get treated well I insist as Amazon trys to insist that a 20 to 50% turnover rate for white collar jobs is normal, and good.
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thinking about unionizing the poop factory any advice?
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AnimeIsTrash posted:thinking about unionizing the poop factory learn to commode
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https://twitter.com/uaw2865/status/1588009831020961792 my former local Shear Modulus has issued a correction as of 17:40 on Nov 3, 2022 |
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oh man the text spam I’m getting against the Illinois worker’s rights amendment is fuckin’ *vile* and everyone I know is getting them
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quote:Hi this is Katelyn. My friend Rachel just posted this on Facebook. It’s sickening.
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kingcobweb posted:christ that's evil luv2get force-fed lurid billionaire-funded anti worker propaganda these people belong in a basement that prominently features a drain
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lmao if you click through this poo poo is insane https://www.illinoispolicy.org/5-ways-amendment-1-is-a-property-tax-hike/ one of the ways it'll supposedly raise taxes is that stronger public employee unions "would make taxpayer-friendly reforms less likely"
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kingcobweb posted:lmao if you click through this poo poo is insane https://www.illinoispolicy.org/5-ways-amendment-1-is-a-property-tax-hike/ yea illinoispolicy dot org is hella gross, but the insane thing is that the one-paragraph amendment only makes “right to work” laws contrary to the state constitution. that’s all it does, protect from Chud governor overreach.
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Junkiebev posted:yea illinoispolicy dot org is hella gross, but the insane thing is that the one-paragraph amendment only makes “right to work” laws contrary to the state constitution. that’s all it does, protect from Chud governor overreach. oh my god that’s amazing. I’m reading them trying to catastrophize over this, just incredible work from them https://www.illinoispolicy.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-giving-unions-special-treatment-in-illinois-constitution/
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quote:Taken to its logical end, there is no limit on who could unionize. Arguably, lawmakers and legislative liaisons might be able to unionize, as they are paid “employees” of the state. im dying
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ScarecrowIntel posted:I was a union worker for many years. I was a steward, chief steward, served on multiple committees including the bargaining committee and bargaining 2 contracts, and served on the executive board for three terms. I watched a strong national union slowly degrade and become a business. I bought into 100% of it. Unity. Solidarity. I bled red. great post. thanks mods and iks
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ScarecrowIntel posted:I was a union worker for many years. I was a steward, chief steward, served on multiple committees including the bargaining committee and bargaining 2 contracts, and served on the executive board for three terms. I watched a strong national union slowly degrade and become a business. I bought into 100% of it. Unity. Solidarity. I bled red. free larry
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Let's not go there please. for anybody in the US who hasn't seen it, there's a new front in anti-union warfare in Canada: the government of Ontario has passed legislation that overrules the constitutionally-protected right to strike to force a dogshit contract on already-severely-underpaid unionized education workers. This has never been done before and a whole lot of the province's unions are declaring sympathy strikes and other labour actions to try and oppose it. I haven't seen any numbers on it yet because it's all happened over the last few days, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's Canada's biggest coordinated labour action in decades. We'll see if it works, the government was reelected with a majority earlier this year and much of their base are rabidly anti-union so they may not think they have much to lose politically from taking as hard a line as possible against striking workers
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vyelkin posted:for anybody in the US who hasn't seen it, there's a new front in anti-union warfare in Canada: the government of Ontario has passed legislation that overrules the constitutionally-protected right to strike to force a dogshit contract on already-severely-underpaid unionized education workers. This has never been done before and a whole lot of the province's unions are declaring sympathy strikes and other labour actions to try and oppose it. I haven't seen any numbers on it yet because it's all happened over the last few days, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's Canada's biggest coordinated labour action in decades. We'll see if it works, the government was reelected with a majority earlier this year and much of their base are rabidly anti-union so they may not think they have much to lose politically from taking as hard a line as possible against striking workers https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/03/ontario-doug-ford-strike-fine-bill-28-canada A fine of four thousand dollars a day! This is really hosed up.
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SKULL.GIF posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/03/ontario-doug-ford-strike-fine-bill-28-canada yeah it's really atrocious, the unions so far are basically ignoring it and hoping that a big enough labour action will force the government back to the table and probably make them retroactively waive fines like that, but technically speaking the way Canadian law works if the government wants to just enforce the law as they passed it with the massive fines or firing all the striking workers or beating their heads in with police clubs there's nothing stopping them, which means we may be entering a new era of labour militancy where the unions have to pay less attention to what the law permits them to do and more attention to what they can actually extract by force of withholding labour whether currently considered legal or not. At this point it's either that or capitulate completely to anti-union provincial leaders who smell blood in the water
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