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Winklebottom posted:who are all these people turning out for SF, the party known for doing absolutely gently caress all As of right now, compared to last election, it is looking like Moderaterne took 10 mandates from the red block (exclusively from Radikale), and 6 from the blue block as a whole.
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I remember being 18, watching a debate where Villy Søvndal absolutely crushed it by laying out concrete plans for public transit refurbishment and poo poo while everyone else just threw platitudes around, voted for SF, only for them to immediately vote for tax cuts for the rich and accomplish nothing else. gently caress all is a step up
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Inferior Third Season posted:They look like they're doing almost exactly the same as last time? In fact, all of the red block is basically unchanged from last time so far, with the exception of Radikale, which is getting massacred. Exactly, so why do people keep voting for them? EL is having a bad time, too. Looks like the brilliant strategy of shedding their last remaining principles didn't pay off. Who would've thought?
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I remember being 18, watching a debate where Villy Søvndal absolutely crushed it by laying out concrete plans for public transit refurbishment and poo poo while everyone else just threw platitudes around, voted for SF, only for them to immediately vote for tax cuts for the rich and accomplish nothing else. lol that was my exact experience, been carrying a grudge ever since and yeah, my bafflement is mainly due to the consistent turnout over the years edit: as politiken put it (though they are overly optimistic about EL): 
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Nov 1, 2022 22:31
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SplitSoul posted:Exactly, so why do people keep voting for them? Whatever intern programmed the weighting function for the DR kandidatquiz has probably had more of an impact on Danish political power than any single politician.
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Nov 1, 2022 22:57
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Frie Grønne got 26.3% in Tingbjerg as the largest party.
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With 80% reporting, there aren't really enough outstanding votes now for major shifts. What I'd like to see from here are a few tenths of a percent shifts. Get DF from 2.7% to under the 2.0% spærregrænse. And for Alternativet, currently at 3.2%, to outperform Radikale, currently at 3.7%. Neither is particularly likely, but they could happen.
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Is it too late to sell Greenland?
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Woodenlung posted:Is it too late to sell Greenland? Why?
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Inferior Third Season posted:With 80% reporting, there aren't really enough outstanding votes now for major shifts. SplitSoul posted:EL is having a bad time, too. Looks like the brilliant strategy of shedding their last remaining principles didn't pay off. Who would've thought?
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Did they shed to SF as well as free greens? I thought someone said that. E: also I only watched one and a half of the debates, but Mai Villadsens didn’t come off great in those I don’t think. Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Nov 2, 2022 |
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Some to SF, a bit to Free Greens, a bit more to The Alternative.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Did they shed to SF as well as free greens? I thought someone said that. Just looking at the percentages, their loss neatly equals the gains made by SF+Å+Q - of course it doesn't work exactly that way, more likely a lot of their voters from last time just didn't vote this time Villadsen did pretty well, but didn't quite match her predecessors.
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jeebus bob posted:Just looking at the percentages, their loss neatly equals the gains made by SF+Å+Q - of course it doesn't work exactly that way, more likely a lot of their voters from last time just didn't vote this time Yeah she's adequate compared to skipper and johanne who were great. Also some tactical voting for aa. vuk83 fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Nov 2, 2022 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Unless they miscounted the first 80%, I'm not sure how you'd get 2.7% under 2.0%. Even with no more votes, they'd end at 2.2%.
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Inferior Third Season posted:It was 80% of the voting locations reporting, not 80% of the votes counted. Smaller locations tend to get their votes reported faster. The dramatic last-minute addition of red's 87th mandate came because locations in Nørrebro and Vesterbro were the very last to report.
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Dragsted believes EL got trounced because people wanted to secure a seat at the table for Alternativet. Also: "Nu har vi muligheden for at fortsætte den politik, der har været ført de sidste tre år. Det vil sige en af verdens mest ambitiøse klimapolitikker, men også en politik, der har holdt hånden under velfærden og en lang række reformer, der gør, at vi passer på hinanden i det her samfund. Det er den politik, vi gerne vil fortsætte." In other words, stay the course. Good luck with that. A Buttery Pastry posted:It's because they stuck to their anti-nuclear principle actually. Liberal Alliance grew for the opposite reason. No, Mai Villadsen is emphatically pro-nuclear... umbrella. 
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's because they stuck to their anti-nuclear principle actually. Liberal Alliance grew for the opposite reason. Ah yes the only reason I never get more than 85% match with anyone on the candidate quizzes. Socialism + nuclear power still not a popular combo for some reason.
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jeebus bob posted:Ah yes the only reason I never get more than 85% match with anyone on the candidate quizzes. Socialism + nuclear power still not a popular combo for some reason. I'm familiar with a candidate from EL who believes NPPs are literally fission bombs.
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the reason is because socialist parties have traditionally been environmentalist and pro-disarmament, and both movements have had a very strong anti-nuclear flavour for decades. as the pro-disarmament stance has become increasingly marginal and the environmental stance becomes increasingly obviously incoherent (turns out that environmental policy made in the sixties through eighties isn't primarily aimed at climate change), this is slowly changing, but a lot of people are still reflexively anti-nuclear for, basically, reasons of habit. it's been a talismanic position for so long that i imagine it would be like if NATO were still around in forty years but had totally changed in nature; a lot of ageing socialists would still be anti-NATO, more or less out of inertia. these days you're mostly seeing degrowth types or more *alternative* eco-warriors stridently and seriously oppose nuclear power. the nuclear power position of the radical left will eventually settle into a kind of keynesian state-led development position as the old paradigm dies off. i'd guess that the turnaround point is less than a decade away. it's not especially material to the actual outcome of our present environmental crises, however.
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jeebus bob posted:Ah yes the only reason I never get more than 85% match with anyone on the candidate quizzes. Socialism + nuclear power still not a popular combo for some reason. I got 100% matches on EL, except for the dumb nuclear power takes, yeah. Some of the quizzes were absolute bullshit, with questions like "should psychological care be prioritized over other health stuff?", which allowed you to say "no more therapy" or "cut back on welfare in general". Just bad design. I'm glad we got the least terrible outcome, even if it means 2 more years of Mette and the associated bullshit. The map is hilariously red, with a few blue spots (lol, Gentofte) and an orange (EL) rash in Copenhagen.
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BonHair posted:Some of the quizzes were absolute bullshit, with questions like "should psychological care be prioritized over other health stuff?", which allowed you to say "no more therapy" or "cut back on welfare in general". Just bad design. It's been a tendency all over to phrase these questions dichotomically.
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SplitSoul posted:It's been a tendency all over to phrase these questions dichotomically.
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https://twitter.com/karlssonmax/status/1587542440021561347?s=46&t=y14X3J3nDCvpRlgLxL3YdA Somewhere, Kristersson’s rabid smile gets even stiffer as he mutters to himself “think of the profits think of the profits SD will ensure profits think of the profits”.
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https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/sd-toppen-skrev-sig-i-fritidshuset-far-taxiresor-och-traktamente-av-skattebetalare Bidragsfusk for me but not for thee.
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This will be four years of SD scandals and it's very much up in the air if they will finally start to matter or not. The first polls are showing that M is back as the second largest party, mainly by eating voters from all the other four parties on the right.
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We inhabit an age of immeasurable indignity.
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Say what you will, Vanopslagh is extremely skilled. A complete shithead, but skilled. In other news, I bike past an election poster every day for some social democrat, which has "rejs jer, fordømte her på jorden" graffitied on it. I honestly don't know if it's supportive or dismissive. The otherwise my area has been mostly Nye Borgerlige and Inger Støjberg.
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Another generation of the Hækkerup dynasty is in apparently. Good grief.
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KozmoNaut posted:Name and shame. not my photo but I did a little digging and it's a real winner https://twitter.com/SletDetHele
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Assuming I understand this https://twitter.com/SletDetHele/status/1587792511891808256?s=20&t=j-sJR79tL-i54Wg_-_Vy_Q
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Lol get hosed Lars Aslan also Jeppe Kofod, the statutory rapist hand picked from a cushy job in the European Parliament to come be foreign minister, couldn't even get a seat in Folketinget.
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/karlssonmax/status/1587542440021561347?s=46&t=y14X3J3nDCvpRlgLxL3YdA This is just utterly insane from start to finish. How is this not on every headline on every paper in sweden?
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jeebus bob posted:Lol get hosed Lars Aslan Remember when Aslan lied about receiving death threats on election day and not a single journalist cared?
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Rust Martialis posted:Assuming I understand this yeah, you do
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/karlssonmax/status/1587542440021561347?s=46&t=y14X3J3nDCvpRlgLxL3YdA SD should hire former S and M members who can make some internal training videos for SD that show the legal and appropriate way to be a corrupt politician in Sweden.
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Apparently the helis turned out to be kinda poo poo and now Försvarsmakten wants to buy new ones, from the US this time around. More bribery that goes unpunished is to be expected.
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