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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
A couple years back, I bought eight huge powerbanks and made myself a 4s4p, 0.4 kWh lithium ion battery for use in my car, to power the fridge and chargers and stuff overnight when sleeping in it. It'll keep my Switch powered on through a good length of blackout, so I don't need to worry

catte e: the charger for it is made from this aliexpress "1200W" (which doesn't actually do 1200W under reasonable conditions) constant current/voltage boost converter with a low voltage lockout setting so it doesn't drain the car battery if the ignition's on.

Tijuana Bibliophile fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Nov 2, 2022

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I love those Shenzhen SMPS boards. Always something creative with them.

Watch It Burn posted:

There's no debate there only a hatred for people who's existance doesn't affect them.
This is a perfect summary. It's exactly like someone in rural Lincolnshire in the 60s going on about "have you heard about the blacks, I read in the paper about them". Just complete cuntery under the veneer of wanting to sound informed.

Watch It Burn
Apr 8, 2009

I thnk the worst part of this is most people are gonna nod along and say "That's drat right Susanna" whilst a small minority of us look on in horror.

However when everything does crumble to dust we'll be able to smugly point out that we were right all along. And really that's all that's important right?

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




I just got myself a huge power bank lithium battery with a plug socket on the side and a bunch of USB ports on it. Figure if it comes down to massive power cuts that'll get me through a night.

That or I'm going to live in my office and hope it's considered critical infrastructure.

Desiderata
May 25, 2005
Go placidly amid the noise and haste...
"Death is nothing compared to vindication." I say, as the gammons on my street finally riot due to wildfires blocking the road to the local Tesco in 2032.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Guavanaut posted:

You can also make a DAB transmitter to set clock radios out of common parts now though if you're in Ireland or Finland.

You're gonna need that in more places in Ireland or Finland, just because those countries on the map earlier are shown as DAB countries, doesn't mean its particularly widespread in all of them. In Sweden for instance it's only around Stockholm IIRC.

DAB radio has had a lot of problems. It's worst problem is that because it's high frequency it has lower range than FM.
http://digitalradioinsider.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-final-countdown-future-of-dab-radio.html

Norweigan experience with DAB and FM shutdown has also not been great.

I think the UK might be the place with highest DAB penetration in europe.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That makes a good case for having a free at the point of use unlimited bandwidth radio service over the cellular network, but nowhere here does anything like that.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
DAB reception seems a lot more reliable in most of the UK than phone reception

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Barry Foster posted:

I know why too

Have you heard of a little man called...

Jumbly Crumblin?

Anyway,

https://twitter.com/francis_samj/status/1587586982426853378?s=20&t=ElzP5JDs41nlWrxa-YkRKA

Well this is it. This is my crack-ping. I think I'm just going to live as hedonistically as possible from now on, while making life as miserable for everyone who caused this as I can manage.

Flux Wildly
Dec 20, 2004

Welkum tü Zanydu!

Necrothatcher posted:

I just got myself a huge power bank lithium battery with a plug socket on the side and a bunch of USB ports on it. Figure if it comes down to massive power cuts that'll get me through a night.

That or I'm going to live in my office and hope it's considered critical infrastructure.

Mind sharing the power bank you got?

Is it portable enough for someone to say, take into their workplace in a backpack to charge up?

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
In all seriousness, what's the best way to be prepared for blackouts, short or long term?

I got an invite from Octopus to take part in their energy usage reduction trial and with everything that's in the news about this, it feels like it's going to be an inevitability in some fashion.

I don't wanna be some doomsday prepper or anything, but basics like light, heating and food storage are things I've always taken for granted.

Like, how long can a freezer go without power before everything inside thaws; should I stock up on candles or is that crazy privative etc?

killerwhat
May 13, 2010

Kin posted:

In all seriousness, what's the best way to be prepared for blackouts, short or long term?

I got an invite from Octopus to take part in their energy usage reduction trial and with everything that's in the news about this, it feels like it's going to be an inevitability in some fashion.

I don't wanna be some doomsday prepper or anything, but basics like light, heating and food storage are things I've always taken for granted.

Like, how long can a freezer go without power before everything inside thaws; should I stock up on candles or is that crazy privative etc?

Candles hardly give off any light (or heat). Get a couple of camping lanterns instead and a load of batteries.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Kin posted:

Like, how long can a freezer go without power before everything inside thaws;

From my experience working in a repairs call centre years ago, 48 hours is usually the point of no return, unless you leave the doors open or something

Deathslinger
Jul 12, 2022

Back in May, someone round the corner from me burned their house down by burning timber in their living room to save on fuel bills.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


If you wanna be more prepared, pack a load of ice blocks in there to provide more a thermal buffer before everything melts.

Better than that- overthrow the government and appoint one that's going to build more national infrastructure to prevent this neoliberal disgrace from continuing

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
If anyone wants something to play offline on their laptop while britain burns in darkness, Jazz Jackrabbit 2 is free right now! https://www.gog.com/game/jazz_jackrabbit_2_collection

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Yeah the freezer will go after a couple of days but can still function as a fridge for a bit longer if there's a decent amount of stuff in it. Mine broke a couple of weeks ago and I managed to keep my meat and fish alive for a good few days. If you have a metal sink you can move food in there and cover it with a wet towel to add a bit more time as well

*Disclaimer: I live in a basement so it's always naturally on the cold side

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I asked a couple of tech nerds about lithium power stations, and they said it would probably be safer to get a leisure battery and inverter for the same price than to trust cheap Chinese imported lithium bombs. I'm still undecided what to get, and still haven't ruled them out, but I had the same warnings from two people I trust, so needed to share.

Solidarity to those who need electric transport to get out and do stuff. My wheelchair only has finite trips into town on one charge, and takes ages to fully charge. So yeah... lol... interesting times and all that

In other news:

https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/1587791045781225478

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Rarity posted:

*Disclaimer: I live in a basement so it's always naturally on the cold side

We already know you're a goon

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Flux Wildly posted:

Mind sharing the power bank you got?

Is it portable enough for someone to say, take into their workplace in a backpack to charge up?

Yes, Amazon but here you go:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07WV2WB9T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Drinkslinger posted:

Back in May, someone round the corner from me burned their house down by burning timber in their living room to save on fuel bills.

About a year ago, the people in the flat below mine got a bit desperate because they had no money to run the heating so they found some wooden pallets in the street, smashed them up and tried to burn them in the fireplace. They didn't know the chimney in the building had been blocked off years ago, so the entire building filled with smoke and the fire brigade got called out. Could have been a lot worse though.

Gonna see a lot more of this kind of thing over the next few months I think.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
If you're really paranoid you can also get a small solar panel to top up the power bank, like 100W should probably be enough to let you charge your laptops and phones and what not, even in winter if there's some sun at least.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Guavanaut posted:

That makes a good case for having a free at the point of use unlimited bandwidth radio service over the cellular network, but nowhere here does anything like that.

Wasn't there a recent report showing the mobile phone networks had almost no backup power supplies accross huge swathes of them?

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Kerosene lamps are probably a good idea, mantle lamps are even better. Plenty of heat and light.

I bought a 2nd hand gas grill so I could potentially cook food without power.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

What the hell was the point of keeping the long wave radio up and also bringing in all the digital radio if everything is going to fall back to analog FM in an emergency?

I should get my kerosene lamp back up and working, that's just about enough to keep a room warm and lit. Maybe several rooms if it sets the first room on fire.

If that's not enough then we're already in the realm of libertarian/survivalist country music and I'll eat Rand Paul.

Analogue radio uses up a bigger chunk of the spectrum than digital so the government would like to phase it out and sell it off like it did analogue TV.

Analogue radios are also easy to make yourself and you can make a really crap one without even a power supply (other than the signal itself) but who would think a first world country would need to worry about that?

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

His Divine Shadow posted:

You're gonna need that in more places in Ireland or Finland, just because those countries on the map earlier are shown as DAB countries, doesn't mean its particularly widespread in all of them. In Sweden for instance it's only around Stockholm IIRC.

DAB radio has had a lot of problems. It's worst problem is that because it's high frequency it has lower range than FM.
http://digitalradioinsider.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-final-countdown-future-of-dab-radio.html

Norweigan experience with DAB and FM shutdown has also not been great.

I think the UK might be the place with highest DA penetration in europe.


Those data analytics from Pornhub provide all sorts of interesting information.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Barry Foster posted:

I know why too

Have you heard of a little man called...

Jumbly Crumblin?

Anyway,

https://twitter.com/francis_samj/status/1587586982426853378?s=20&t=ElzP5JDs41nlWrxa-YkRKA

Think I'm gonna donate to just stop oil off the back off this

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

if you keep the freezer *closed* it will last a long time. They are pretty well insulated and it takes a lot of energy to melt all that frozen poo poo. Ideally don't open it at all for days in an extended power outage.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Barry Foster posted:

I know why too

Have you heard of a little man called...

Jumbly Crumblin?

Anyway,

https://twitter.com/francis_samj/status/1587586982426853378?s=20&t=ElzP5JDs41nlWrxa-YkRKA

When I see people who just don't care about the climate going tits up all I can think is how sorry I am for their grandchildren because by god they will suffer.


Yes honey you caught me in bed with another woman but I'm committed to the "sentiment" of the marriage vows, and considering whether now is "the right time" to keep them.

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said
has anyone got a ballpark for how much these DIY power banks cost? seems like a cure is worse than the disease type situation rn ie. if it would cost me more to put together than it would to just re-buy the contents of my freezer

...unless we're seriously expecting there to be multiple multi-day outages in which case lol

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

i’ve seen some big ones cost 600 quid but i’m sure you can go bigger / just get a diesel generator

Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008
I think this is all academic since the power won't be out for a full straight week and everything has implied that at worst it'll be rolling blackouts for 3 hours for 4 days? At that this war game is just a pre-2020 written "What if everything was hosed for a week?" scenario?

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
Hmmm. Unelected, no mandate, manifesto forgotten?

Government's illegitimate, Cloud.

Yes I know um axshully, shut up.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Kin posted:

In all seriousness, what's the best way to be prepared for blackouts, short or long term?
Kerosene lamp, oil lamp, or even a chunk lamp are all safer than candles and will get you heat and light.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71sA0hPPPo

The 'lighting oil' they used for old kerosene lamps is the same as white diesel, but nothing like vegetable oil (that's what chunk lamps are for).

Those compact butane camping stoves can boil water reasonably safely indoors.

None of the above are great for indoor air quality though.

Get a good coat and some cardigans.

Kin posted:

Like, how long can a freezer go without power before everything inside thaws; should I stock up on candles or is that crazy privative etc?
A chest freezer will last a lot longer than an upright freezer, especially if you freeze some 2L pop bottles of water in it.

fuctifino posted:

I asked a couple of tech nerds about lithium power stations, and they said it would probably be safer to get a leisure battery and inverter for the same price than to trust cheap Chinese imported lithium bombs. I'm still undecided what to get, and still haven't ruled them out, but I had the same warnings from two people I trust, so needed to share.

Solidarity to those who need electric transport to get out and do stuff. My wheelchair only has finite trips into town on one charge, and takes ages to fully charge. So yeah... lol... interesting times and all that
LiFePO4 are a lot safer than lithium ion for that kind of power storage. Lead acid are much cheaper but bad power density.

feedmegin posted:

Analogue radio uses up a bigger chunk of the spectrum than digital so the government would like to phase it out and sell it off like it did analogue TV.

Analogue radios are also easy to make yourself and you can make a really crap one without even a power supply (other than the signal itself) but who would think a first world country would need to worry about that?
You can for AM, but they're turning that off for emergencies now apparently.

Passive FM receivers are theoretically possible but very fiddly unless you're a huge radio nerd. Clockwork radio for most people I think.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Szmitten posted:

I think this is all academic since the power won't be out for a full straight week and everything has implied that at worst it'll be rolling blackouts for 3 hours for 4 days? At that this war game is just a pre-2020 written "What if everything was hosed for a week?" scenario?
"We can't risk rolling blackouts, better to just cut these neighbourhoods off from the grid to ensure perfect uptime everywhere else."

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.
Long underwear really helps, because it can trap warmer air right next to your skin. Even the cheap cotton long johns are fine around the house. That and a warm hat. Those were my go-tos when I lived for a long time in a miserable house with no insulation and lots of black mold, and expensive oil heat.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I remember one year I got the usual vouchers for Christmas from my Nan and decided to buy a DAB radio.

She may as well have made a charitable donation in my name.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




It's cool and rad that discussion in the UKMT has boiled down to how to retain body heat and sourcing backup power systems.

Can't wait until 2023 when we're comparing notes on how to hammer nails into a cricket bat and which roving gang of raiders is best to pay tribute to.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Necrothatcher posted:

It's cool and rad that discussion in the UKMT has boiled down to how to retain body heat and sourcing backup power systems.

Can't wait until 2023 when we're comparing notes on how to hammer nails into a cricket bat and which roving gang of raiders is best to pay tribute to.

:capitalism:

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biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke



I got a clockwork radio a couple of weeks ago. For maximum nerdery I made sure it had Shortwave so I can hunt for numbers stations, overt propaganda from countries other than our own and insane hellfire preachers in the coming darkness.

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