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smoobles posted:I am almost certain you can lay people off with pay in lieu of notice, they'll just pay them for 60 days. It's common practice in downsizing. You can't have a disgruntled employee showing up for 2 more months, let alone 4,000 of them, it would be chaos. Doesn’t seem like there would’ve been much of a point in him doing this if he didn’t expect to get out of having to pay them.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:25
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He wanted to lay people off ASAP, not wait 60 days like the WARN act wants.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:33
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Convex posted:https://twitter.com/LisaBloom/status/1588359669843513344 And predictably from the replies some bazinga... https://twitter.com/FuturamaKing/status/1588388150199869440 Bio says they're into "space&tesla". Huh weird. In a way I wish I had the kind of unearned confidence to rush in to say "I'm not a lawyer, but hey lawyer let me correct you on your literal area of expertise" but in another more significant way I am very glad I do not.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:34
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From the DOL website https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ETA/Layoff/pdfs/_EmployerWARN2003.pdfquote:Can I pay my workers their salary and benefits for 60 days in lieu of notice? Paying two months severance is the standard for tech layoffs even if they aren't big enough to trigger WARN and I have to imagine that is what is happening here.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:47
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Well the emails go out at 9pst, they could very well actually be 60 days notice instead of the actual layoff
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Nov 4, 2022 13:49
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I'm willing to bet they haven't given much though to whom they fire, and they are gonna fire a bunch of critical personnel and find themselves up a creek.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:51
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i hope they don't fire dasharez0ne 
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Nov 4, 2022 13:54
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Maybe zucks can build a new twitter in the metaverse to try and find a use for it.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:55
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At every big tech company there are about a dozen people who do some task as part of their job that if they didn't do it, the whole thing would break, and no one else knows how to do, and nobody knows exactly who these people are until they are gone.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:55
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Elon can't fire me, I'll keep deleting all the likes from various conservative accounts.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:56
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CommieGIR posted:I'm willing to bet they haven't given much though to whom they fire, and they are gonna fire a bunch of critical personnel and find themselves up a creek. It's been like less than a week there's no way there's been enough time to do this in anything but a slapdash way.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:57
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If a few of the people who were already fired the past few days are starting a lawsuit, I have to imagine they weren't getting 60 days pay. The idiot is trying to get out of paying the executives' contractual severance bonus, to which every lawyer on the internet is saying "lol no that's a guaranteed loss, Musk is gonna end up paying the money plus legal fees". Of course he's dumb enough to try to fire half the company in violation of the law.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:58
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Nov 4, 2022 13:59
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John Wick of Dogs posted:At every big tech company there are about a dozen people who do some task as part of their job that if they didn't do it, the whole thing would break, and no one else knows how to do, and nobody knows exactly who these people are until they are gone. It's been too long since we've seen the sad Twitter whale jpg
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Nov 4, 2022 13:59
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crime weed posted:more commits = better ahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhaa
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CommieGIR posted:I'm willing to bet they haven't given much though to whom they fire, and they are gonna fire a bunch of critical personnel and find themselves up a creek. I think Musk already did that when he fired all the people day 1 who would say, "Hey, dumbass, don't do that. You'll wreck the company and/or get into a lot of deep legal poo poo." crime weed posted:more commits = better I'm a hack who slaps together ugly code to solve my data problems and I immediately went, "Oh holy gently caress!" at that. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Nov 4, 2022 |
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Nov 4, 2022 14:02
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Adding linebreaks to cement your safety.
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Klyith posted:At one time I thought that was a sign that he was real smart, that he intentionally picked the 2 most hide-bound industries to enter. But everything he's done since then has been... not that. I got lucky that I never bought into any of his public image. My dad met him at a ballistic missile conference right after SpaceX was founded. He said he got up and gave a talk to a bunch of ballistic missile engineers that were 20-30+ years deep in the field for 30 minutes about absolutely nothing, stumbling all over himself, having no idea what the gently caress he was talking about when he did talk about something related to rockets; and then subsequently couldn't answer a single engineering question about engineering rockets to a room full of ballistic missile engineers. It was almost all about how much money he had, evidently. Really soured my dad on him something fierce, and I never took him seriously again after hearing that story.
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Nov 4, 2022 14:02
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crime weed posted:more commits = better How does this work for like sales or HR or IT?
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Nov 4, 2022 14:07
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 This trending topic wasn't about Sandy Koufax....
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Nov 4, 2022 14:07
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mobby_6kl posted:How does this work for like sales or HR or IT? Hr should be making commits to git repos, duh
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MrQwerty posted:I got lucky that I never bought into any of his public image. My dad met him at a ballistic missile conference right after SpaceX was founded. He said he got up and gave a talk to a bunch of ballistic missile engineers that were 20-30+ years deep in the field for 30 minutes about absolutely nothing, stumbling all over himself, having no idea what the gently caress he was talking about when he did talk about something related to rockets; and then subsequently couldn't answer a single engineering question about engineering rockets to a room full of ballistic missile engineers. It was almost all about how much money he had, evidently. Really soured my dad on him something fierce, and I never took him seriously again after hearing that story. Elon musk is the salesperson every company has who strolls Into a meeting room full of engineers proposing their new products to the board and goes "guys. I've got it! We simply make the product do twice as much, for half the price and half the size to boot!!", And then the board then applauds his "insanely good idea" while the engineers in the background are trying to explain why they've been trying to do that for literally forty years now.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Well the emails go out at 9pst, they could very well actually be 60 days notice instead of the actual layoff Earlier reporting said they were closing the offices and suspending badge access today to "smooth" this process. I have a hard time believing they'd do that just to give people an extra day off to stew.
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Nov 4, 2022 14:19
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crime weed posted:more commits = better What does this mean, for those of us that don't code or whatever?
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Nov 4, 2022 14:22
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What's the Twitter equivalent of headbutting a Tesla on the production line? Has Musk tried that yet?
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Nov 4, 2022 14:22
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crime weed posted:more commits = better I no nothing about writing code, but am I anywhere near correct in taking this to mean that someone who writes a very elegant, simple piece of code which addresses multiple issues at the same time, would be fired in favor of someone who writes big lumpy messes that fix individual instances rather than addressing the root cause? If so, lmao.
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Nov 4, 2022 14:25
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Elviscat posted:What does this mean, for those of us that don't code or whatever? It's the number of times a person saved a change to twitter's internal software guts, regardless of how impactful those changes were. It's exactly the same level of thinking as someone who thinks a painting's value can be measured by the amount of paint used
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Nov 4, 2022 14:26
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Elviscat posted:What does this mean, for those of us that don't code or whatever? It's just a reference to source control. Think in terms of Wikipedia, I guess. If you edit more and add more text, you're automatically better.
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Elviscat posted:What does this mean, for those of us that don't code or whatever? Large scale programs use something called source control. Where a team of multiple people have access and can modify the program simultaneously. When you make a change on your computer, you "commit" the change and that propagates to the source control system, so everyone else has the changed version now. You also have the ability to roll back commits if there are problems, to easily switch to a previous version. Most commits as a metric is ridiculous. You might go in and write a brand new giant function and only do a few commits in the process. You might go change the hex value of a color somewhere and commit it, and commit everytime you make a slight change and rack up dozens of commits in a day.
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Elviscat posted:What does this mean, for those of us that don't code or whatever? Imagine you were writing a flowchart/manual for some sailor to learn, and those who wrote the longest flowchart were rewarded.
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Pookah posted:I no nothing about writing code, but am I anywhere near correct in taking this to mean that someone who writes a very elegant, simple piece of code which addresses multiple issues at the same time, would be fired in favor of someone who writes big lumpy messes that fix individual instances rather than addressing the root cause? Yep, right on the money. It also ignores any vital non-committing activities like research tasks, assessing 3rd party libraries and vendors, data maintenance, mentoring, code reviewing, failure recovery efforts, etc There's a reason the industry moved away from assessing engineer quality solely by lines of code written back in like, the 90s lol. That's some straight up pressed shirt and tie 1970s IBM type poo poo
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Nov 4, 2022 14:29
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for a while i had removed more code from our codebase than i added to it and was very proud of that fact
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LOL I would have survived because every pull request I make has a dozen extra commits for me to get rid of all my code:
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crime weed posted:more commits = better Holy poo poo this has to be fake right?
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Perhaps if Elon simply reroutes power from the auxiliary warp manifolds
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Elviscat posted:What does this mean, for those of us that don't code or whatever? It is a famously bad method to judge productivity or quality.  I can replace the alternator on my car. It took me most of an afternoon and I had to do one part twice because I wasn't sure I had it right. It would take a professional I'm guessing between 15-30 minutes. I looked more busy, but who was more productive? Someone who produces lots of code and lots of commits might be a dummy trying to replace an alternator and being bad at it. Or it might be a highly skilled coder doing a complete engine rebuild. Someone who produces less code & fewer commits might be a guy who is going around replacing spark plugs and brake pads. That guy is very important to keeping the cars running! Possibly their greatest skill isn't doing the fix itself, but knowing when the brakes are worn before they cause problems. Firing that guy is a big mistake.
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Total Party Kill posted:LOL I would have survived because every pull request I make has a dozen extra commits for me to get rid of all my Just stop using functions and loops you’ll be twitters best engineer
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Elviscat posted:What does this mean, for those of us that don't code or whatever? The more revisions you make, the busier you look. This is very smart business sense because people who make more changes are more intelligent, eg Elon Musk
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Nov 4, 2022 14:38
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:And predictably from the replies some bazinga... "Not a lawyer but LOOK IT UP!" 
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Elviscat posted:What does this mean, for those of us that don't code or whatever? so if you write a super long, verbose book full of errors, you're gonna have a huge leg up on everyone else.
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