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Kind of surprised this didn't get any comments, I think it's gonna do a lot of work in some older formats as a one of because you can get it with Urzas Saga, plus some cEDH decks alread play Caustic Caterpillar and this is usually a solid upgrade.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 15:54 |
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VictualSquid posted:The strongest deck was eventually a self mill deck using creeping chill, dark ritual and doom whisperer. Hahaha you basically had to concede if you weren't on the play because odds are you were just going to get first turn killed.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 15:54 |
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:07 |
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These are kinda meh for draft. If you don't have multiples of all 3 or a reliable way to tutor for them they really suck.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:09 |
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Tism the Dragon Tickler posted:Kind of surprised this didn't get any comments, I think it's gonna do a lot of work in some older formats as a one of because you can get it with Urzas Saga, plus some cEDH decks alread play Caustic Caterpillar and this is usually a solid upgrade. Good Karn wish target in Pioneer/Explorer, as well.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:10 |
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mcmagic posted:These are kinda meh for draft. If you don't have multiples of all 3 or a reliable way to tutor for them they really suck. I mean I guess it's like drafting the defenders deck in dominaria atm, right, but moreso? Are they all common? Tism the Dragon Tickler posted:Kind of surprised this didn't get any comments, I think it's gonna do a lot of work in some older formats as a one of because you can get it with Urzas Saga, plus some cEDH decks alread play Caustic Caterpillar and this is usually a solid upgrade. I don't want to look at it because it's mildly trypophobic.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:36 |
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!Klams posted:I mean I guess it's like drafting the defenders deck in dominaria atm, right, but moreso? Are they all common? Defenders is way better because you have a common tutor for the best card in the deck that literally no other deck wants.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:38 |
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FrozenPhoenix71 posted:It's Standard legal. Starting with Dominaria United iirc they also do set-specific Jumpstart packs. They're not a whole big set thing like the original Jumpstart was(and Jumpstart 2 will be), but there's 2 packs per color. Same themes and a rare that's the same regardless of which pack(Both White A and B are Soldier themed and have the dog in it for example) but have different commons and uncommons. Cards in these are considered part of the main set and are as legal in formats as any of the other cards in their appropriate set. I hate that there are cards legal in Standard you can't get from draft boosters. I hate that there are certain cards that show up once in a while that reach the level of meta playable that you can't get while drafting.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:42 |
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Sadly, Unfinity has an "Urza's" name sticker, but no "Tower", "Mine", or "Power Plant".
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:46 |
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mcmagic posted:Defenders is way better because you have a common tutor for the best card in the deck that literally no other deck wants. Yeah... you're right. I guess the thing is this is more like, all of these are reasonable 23rd maindecks, what with all the powerstones... I wonder what density you need of all 3 to actually play all 3 though... I'm sure there must be a semi decent draft deck that wants them all?
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:50 |
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Mike N Eich posted:I hate that there are cards legal in Standard you can't get from draft boosters. I hate that there are certain cards that show up once in a while that reach the level of meta playable that you can't get while drafting. These jumpstart cards are safely constructed unplayable so whales don't buy all the products for new players.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:53 |
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mcmagic posted:These are kinda meh for draft. If you don't have multiples of all 3 or a reliable way to tutor for them they really suck. It's cool that they have that 5-mana 4/4 that tutors Assembly Workers on the special card sheet. The downside is that I expect to lose to a Wurmcoil Engine at the prerelease.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 17:08 |
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!Klams posted:Yeah... you're right. I guess the thing is this is more like, all of these are reasonable 23rd maindecks, what with all the powerstones... I wonder what density you need of all 3 to actually play all 3 though... I'm sure there must be a semi decent draft deck that wants them all? When you're putting like 5 of them into your deck they are no longer 23rd cards.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 17:45 |
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unless there's some kind of extremely narrowly targeted uncommon payoff for the workers, they're bottom of the barrel commons. I wouldn't put them in my dog's limited deck, let alone my own
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 17:58 |
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 19:11 |
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rest of the commons are up, the protoypes are very cool
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 19:22 |
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Ashnod is the waifu for people who think they're too cool to hang out with Lily, Elspeth or TWE
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 19:49 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Is there a collection of Indicate edits? I can only find the Sorin one.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 21:00 |
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Seriously though do you think they'll ever print a card with the effect "target permanent"? There's a ton of cards that do something when targeted so maybe stapling it as an effect onto a creature Vicious Fingerpointer Whenever this attacks, target permanent
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 21:33 |
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Getting flashbacks to that AI-generated Hearthstone card, Blood Manos. 6 mana for a 6/0 with the rules text "ALL minions".
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 21:38 |
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precision posted:Seriously though do you think they'll ever print a card with the effect "target permanent"? There's a ton of cards that do something when targeted so maybe stapling it as an effect onto a creature I am keeping up hope for an actual print of [V]indicate for some unset sometime in the future.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 21:45 |
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VictualSquid posted:I am keeping up hope for an actual print of [V]indicate for some unset sometime in the future. Add some "whenever you target a permanent" "whenever this permanent becomes a target" so there's actual synergy/payoff to the gag.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 21:47 |
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precision posted:Ashnod is the waifu for people who think they're too cool to hang out with Lily, Elspeth or TWE Why would I need a Liliana waifu when I could just date a nurse who got in over her head on an MLM scam?
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 21:53 |
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precision posted:Seriously though do you think they'll ever print a card with the effect "target permanent"? There's a ton of cards that do something when targeted so maybe stapling it as an effect onto a creature like a 1 mana "Target permanent, draw a card" could probably get some value out of it with heroic
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 21:57 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:Add some "whenever you target a permanent" "whenever this permanent becomes a target" so there's actual synergy/payoff to the gag. Exactly. Make it a whole draft archetype.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 21:58 |
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precision posted:Seriously though do you think they'll ever print a card with the effect "target permanent"? no
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 22:20 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:Add some "whenever you target a permanent" "whenever this permanent becomes a target" so there's actual synergy/payoff to the gag. Illusions hate it!
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 22:20 |
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Indicate 1 (Target one creature. That's all, just... Target it.) would be a great ability for a non-acorn acorn-set card, but if you're really asking me to play a whole draft with a thing, I think it's gonna be boring as gently caress without SOME kind of combat trick texture. Besides, there are such rich opportunities for dumbass negligible effects, it'd be a shame to overlook them if that's what you really wanted. -1/-1 and Bushido 1 until end of turn. Tack on the Hamster creature type. An Aura that makes no changes. Token copies that lose all abilities with power and toughness set to 0/0. Then you're also less constrained to Heroic being the only form of payoff.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 22:38 |
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I mean you could just put the payoff on the card. "When this ETB or attacks, target permanent. Whenever you target a permanent you don't control with a spell or activated ability, draw a card"
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 22:48 |
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Sounds good, you just gotta keyword it "Villainous."
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 23:14 |
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target permanent becomes a permanent target
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 23:24 |
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I like [V]indicate specifically, because it is a small upside on a card that is regularly printed with other small upsides. it could also be a mode on Johnny's charm/command: - any number of target permanents. - any number of target spells or effects.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 23:27 |
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Why would it cost a mana? It would be like that one posted up thread but it's cleave cost would be 0 to just target a permanent
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 23:27 |
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I think players would rather have cards that do something. There's tonnes of mechanics that care about you playing spells (Prowess, Heroic, Magecraft, etc) and there's plenty of 1 mana cantrips that target creatures.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 23:30 |
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:target permanent becomes a permanent target That's kind of a cool idea. "When X enters the battlefield, put a target counter on target permanent. Whenever you cast a spell that targets the same type of permanent as one with a target counter on it, you may copy that spell targeting the permanent of that type with a target counter on it."
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 00:13 |
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a zero mana instant whose text is just "target permanent." there I think that satisfies what people are looking for aaaaaaaaand every format is broken now. whoops
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 00:13 |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LkDaSLoRI4g
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 00:16 |
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Paraphrase please, I can't stand listening to Rudy for more than about 2 seconds.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 00:22 |
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Are prices going up or down, someone said Rudy and my clicking finger went"nope"
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Framboise posted:Paraphrase please, I can't stand listening to Rudy for more than about 2 seconds. the revised dual lands are very low on buylists right now except star city games [16 minutes of rudy rambling] he's gonna stay invested and buying also he calls mark rosewater a liar a bunch lol
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