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Clawtopsy posted:Petra hates the Imperial old guard, but seems to like Edelgard and the new guard plenty fine? I really don’t think it’s as dire as all that. In fact, as I mentioned earlier it's the exact opposite. Petra has explicit permission to surrender and change sides to keep herself alive from Edelgard who values her friend's life and well being more than any political machinations.
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# ? Jul 15, 2022 02:41 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:16 |
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Amppelix posted:game's good, you should play it I get absolutely nothing but vague annoyance out of musou gameplay, I tried. But I love that Claude gets to be the gloriously underhanded schemer he was always meant to be in 3 Hopes, so hearing about it is great (and I'm glad its apparently very good!). I may have to find a good LP of it to watch.
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# ? Jul 15, 2022 03:02 |
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Petra is one of those characters who has a good reason to be there on any route, in both games.
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# ? Jul 16, 2022 03:00 |
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So I've been really enjoying my Black Eagles play through, sided with edelgaard and got to the time skip and... I've seen folks say this route got the least amount of attention, but wow the production drop off is incredible. First, when Rhea reveals she's a dragon in the holy tomb, the game just shows a static jpeg of the dragon and the characters yell "Ahhh, run away!" and that's the end of it. You just go to the next scene, I guess you all just ran off? Then instead of a cinematic or anything at the end of the battle of Garreg Mach, they just show another jpeg of Rhea as a dragon, then Edelgarde and Hubert say "LOOK OUT, PROFESSOR!" and that's it. Smash cut to five years later. No cutscene, no real effort to portray what happened at all. It's really disappointing. I get that this route suffered because they ran out of time, but I can't believe they didn't patch in at least something to better tell the story. I wouldn't expect a new fully animated cutscene but at least something, the cut corners are so jarring that it completely pulled me out of the experience.
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 14:00 |
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tbf theres some other stuff like that in the other routes. like claude saying 'btw dimitri died off screen' in golden deer with no fanfare and then hes just actually dead
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 14:10 |
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static jpeg rhea is my favorite fire emblem villain
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 14:12 |
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yeah this is just kind of the three houses experience. very much a progressivelyworsedrawnhorse.jpg game. lots of promise early on that gets weighed down by the increasingly boring monastery loop/lack of production resources for certain routes/badly unbalanced writing (and then the deathblow, realizing you have to do white clouds four times if you want to see the rest), and a lot of it comes back to if you like the characters enough to balance that stuff out. That route absolutely gets the worst of it in many ways production-wise, though.
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 17:16 |
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Static jpegs are the most dangerous form of dragon. that's why byleths final smash is a jpeg of sothis
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 17:31 |
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Endorph posted:tbf theres some other stuff like that in the other routes. like claude saying 'btw dimitri died off screen' in golden deer with no fanfare and then hes just actually dead Oh yea I hated that my first run, lol Valentin posted:yeah this is just kind of the three houses experience. very much a progressivelyworsedrawnhorse.jpg game. lots of promise early on that gets weighed down by the increasingly boring monastery loop/lack of production resources for certain routes/badly unbalanced writing (and then the deathblow, realizing you have to do white clouds four times if you want to see the rest), and a lot of it comes back to if you like the characters enough to balance that stuff out. That route absolutely gets the worst of it in many ways production-wise, though. Yeah I think I'm going through the exact same arc I did my first playthrough three years ago, "This is great! I'm gonna play this forever!" > "This is starting to drag but things are coming to a head in White Clouds!" > "I can't believe this shipped as a finished product, I just want to finish it and move on". The team pretty clearly bit off more than they could chew, I'm glad they tried but wish they narrowed their scope to something they could better execute on.
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 19:00 |
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So Blue Lions is the only one that isn't half-assed right? Golden Deer/Silver Snow are the same thing, only with variable charisma of the main guy who isn't you; it at least features cutscenes. Black Eagles is arguably the most interesting, but clearly underdeveloped. e: nah, they're all half-assed eating only apples fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Aug 12, 2022 |
# ? Aug 12, 2022 01:19 |
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Yeah, there's supposedly cut content from the Lions route that was supposed to involve re-recruiting some characters -- that might've gone a long way.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 02:31 |
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Now that the weapons triangle isn't a thing, what does it mean to focus on a specific melee weapon? I'm playing Golden Deer and it seems like I have a lot of lance people, and so I moved a few character priorities to other things. Also, I'm dumb and get decision paralysis in games where I can spec characters sometimes, if time ticks forwards irreversably. I spent the first two teaching sessions just kinda feeling out how stuff works, and how effective certain choices were (It seems like professor experience makes a huge difference). I have to assume I can't FUBAR things too badly if I haven't even done my first real battle, right?
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# ? Aug 30, 2022 02:40 |
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DrankSinatra posted:Now that the weapons triangle isn't a thing, what does it mean to focus on a specific melee weapon? I'm playing Golden Deer and it seems like I have a lot of lance people, and so I moved a few character priorities to other things. You're fine. As long as you're not on Maddening nothing actually matters too much so spec your characters into what you like. Focusing on a specific weapon will unlock weapon skills and passives associated with that. For example Sword crit +10% is a passive you unlock if you get S rank swords. If you're speccing someone out of lance I would very strongly recommend putting Leonie into swords.
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# ? Aug 30, 2022 03:03 |
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If you're on Hard or below, you can just kind of roll with character proficiencies and it'll work out fine enough. Focusing on a specific weapon is done so you can go into classes that require those weapon ranks or so you can run a setup of combat arts of that type. I bumbled through the game my first time on Hard and didn't have too many problems, Claude is good enough from mid to late game to carry you through hard for the most part.
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# ? Aug 30, 2022 03:12 |
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Sorry, felt obligated to respond to Blastinus's post on LP in a spoilery way:Blastinus posted:The thing is, while Byleth throwing himself in harm's way does seem like a stupid gesture, it's also a means of establishing that the character, despite seeming to be a blank slate, does have a significant character flaw of charging in without thinking. I think it's okay for a character to not always make the right decision in the heat of the moment, especially when Sothis calls him out for it in the very same scene. Man, this line of thinking is going to give me a gigantic headache when we get to AM and have MU deciding that killing Randolph is the preferable alternative to literally anything else, isn't it? Delphisage fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Sep 12, 2022 |
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I finally found the right thread for this! Some musings now that I'm in chapter 7 of my first maddening run, using the deer in a ng: Positive things quote:- Ignatz rules hard. I've been a little lucky with some good STR growths but even without that the guy never misses which is insanely valuable against these dodgy jerks. Cannot wait for hunters volley. Some mistakes quote:- I definitely recruited Sylvain too early. There isn't enough to go around in the early chapters and he really got shafted alongside Raphael. It doesn't help that his growths have been pathetic, never above 2/level, and hardly any in strength (go train and quit playing around with girls dude). And a question: Since Sylvain is grounded I'll have 4 fliers at endgame. I was thinking to bring in Flayn as a dark flier to get back to 5 and to use that magic flying batallion. Is it worth doubling back for mag+2 (and draw back) for early-midgame? I thought about spd+2 for petra and str+2 for balthus but I need Petra in thief to steal right now and Balthus is going to get deathblow anyway. Full cast is now be FK Byleth / Barb Claude / WL Hilda / Sniper Ignatz / BK Leonie / WL Petra / Grim Lysithea / DK Marianne / Grap or WM Balthus / Dancer Dorothea / DF Flayn / Pally Sylvain / Grap or WM Raphael / DK Lorenz / SM Catherine Byleth to Dorothea is a lock, everyone else swapped in as needed otherwise adjutant or bench.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 17:43 |
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Hey, don't underestimate the Cavalry -> Paladin line. Sure you're not getting the flight or strength modifier of a Wyvern Lord, but it's still an 8 move unit with canto and lancefaire. Plus, grounded units tend to have access to better battalions than flying units. In fact, if you do Sylvain's paralogue, I believe you get one that gives stride and a lot of avoid. As long as he gets Swift Strikes, Sylvain can't possibly be a bad unit. As for Magic +2 and Draw Back, I'd say it's always worth it on every magic unit. Mages aren't really starved for skills like physical units are anyway, and even non-offensive units get use out of it with extended range for support spells. Strength +2 is also nice to have if you don't have any other skills to equip, especially for someone using gauntlets. I still leave it on for some units even in the endgame. As for the War Monk, uhh... you can try it out and it's not a terrible class, but I don't think you get much out of it either. Even though Balthus is supposed to be the premiere War Monk, he really doesn't have good magic or spells to make it better for him than say Warmaster or Grappler. Still, if you are leveling up Balthus' faith you might as well give it a shot and see how it works for you.
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Bluff Buster posted:Hey, don't underestimate the Cavalry -> Paladin line. Sure you're not getting the flight or strength modifier of a Wyvern Lord, but it's still an 8 move unit with canto and lancefaire. Plus, grounded units tend to have access to better battalions than flying units. In fact, if you do Sylvain's paralogue, I believe you get one that gives stride and a lot of avoid. As long as he gets Swift Strikes, Sylvain can't possibly be a bad unit. Oh no don't get me wrong, I think it's pretty good! Just not what I had planned at the start and I wasted some time with flying as one of the goals for him. The access to great landed battalions is a big plus and why I initially wanted to keep the number of flyers down. The second point checks out to me. My concern is more about spending a level up with beginner class growths, but I guess one won't hurt? I might put Balthus back in fighter if it isn't so bad for str+2, and I actually used shove in the ch 6 map which makes me think small urban maps might make it useful. What about spd+2? Petra already seems pretty fast but I think I could use swap in similar situations to shove. I really like the movement arts to be honest, I use canto reposition constantly. Also I just realized that War Monk and War Master have the same initials - I'm not going to keep Balthus in war monk! I was thinking brawl avo would be handy to have. He's definitely going to spend most of his time in grappler or war master after I get that. (same with raphael).
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Sleng Teng posted:What about spd+2? Petra already seems pretty fast but I think I could use swap in similar situations to shove. I really like the movement arts to be honest, I use canto reposition constantly. Honestly, I've never felt the need to get either Speed +2 or Swap. Darting Blow from Pegasus Knight usually covers the speed well enough, and +2 speed isn't as significant in Maddening when the fastest enemies will be way too fast for even Petra to naturally double. As for swap, I feel like it's the weakest repositioning art since you're replacing one unit in a bad spot with another unit in that same bad spot. I might be underselling Swap though; I have had times were map geometry and unit traffic prevented me from using Reposition, where Swap would have been useful, and Canto nullifies the weakness I just pointed out. It's up to you if that's worth it. Also, I really wouldn't worry about the class growth rates, especially if you're trying to master classes. An extra 10% growth rate is just an average of one extra point over ten levels, and as you might have noticed, enemies have super stacked stats in Maddening that's only going to keep getting higher. As long as you focus on good abilities, gambits, battalions and combat arts, even characters getting unlucky level ups can perform well enough. As for your Grappler vs. Warmaster dilemma, I generally think of Grappler as the better player phase class thanks to Fierce Iron Fist, the unique Combat Art for the class that hits three times, while the Warmaster does better during the enemy phase, especially if he also has some form of the vantage/wrath combo. Again, it depends on what you want your units to do.
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Bluff Buster posted:Honestly, I've never felt the need to get either Speed +2 or Swap. Darting Blow from Pegasus Knight usually covers the speed well enough, and +2 speed isn't as significant in Maddening when the fastest enemies will be way too fast for even Petra to naturally double. As for swap, I feel like it's the weakest repositioning art since you're replacing one unit in a bad spot with another unit in that same bad spot. I might be underselling Swap though; I have had times were map geometry and unit traffic prevented me from using Reposition, where Swap would have been useful, and Canto nullifies the weakness I just pointed out. It's up to you if that's worth it. I won't bother with myrmidon then though I do think I could make swap work. Besides, I need steal right now and if I'm going to spend extra time in a tier I'd rather spend it in intermediates for death+darting+hit20. Thanks!
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 23:39 |
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Prurient Squid posted:I think I'm going to get back into this game and play it on hard with permadeaths and no save scumming and just see where that gets me. Since I've forgotten literally everything about how the game works and how to buys swords and stuff and how combat works and how the routes diverge from one another, I expect to have a hard time. Prurient Squid posted:Well it's been a week since I made the post above and I played about 20m which was the opening cutscene up to the start of the tutorial fight. Well it's been 5 months since I made the above posts. Now to actually play it!
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 19:38 |
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you eating ok? I'm going to play the new fire emblem.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 19:46 |
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So my first attempt at the mock battle I got taken out by Hilda and Claude hiding in the bushes. Claude hit twice with his bow and Hilda came out with her axe, chop. Game Over. Second attempt. I lost Dedue early on because one hit from a magic spell took half his hit points. I won. No lossess because there are not deaths in the mock battle. It was fun. This might be a useful way of channeling my aggression. edit: I'm eating fine. I had minestrone soup with panini. Then later I had a big pear. Prurient Squid fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Nov 6, 2022 |
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Pears are so fuckin good, great choice.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 22:43 |
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the thinking man's apple
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 00:32 |
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War Monk is a punch class with some magic, so it's good for strong classes who also have a spell list you like. It is also a punch class that allows girls. Balthus doesn't make the best headliner because he also has access to War Master and his spell list is just okay. It is, however, a class that lets someone like Edelgard use magic without tanking her physical stats, and also she has the stats to tear people in half with her bare hands if that appeals to you.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 12:02 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:War Monk is a punch class with some magic, so it's good for strong classes who also have a spell list you like. It is also a punch class that allows girls. Balthus doesn't make the best headliner because he also has access to War Master and his spell list is just okay.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 08:02 |
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It also doesn't help that in a very bizarre act of balancing, War Clerics get halved magic uses, so Edeldard's already limited magic is even easier to burn through.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 08:21 |
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Sorry but Edelgard and her palette just looks too good as a Valkyrie for that not to be her dlc class. It even makes her look terrific with her side ponytail which I normally hate.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 09:27 |
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I've come back to play Cindered Shadows and was curious: around what level do you reach in the main story by the end? My latest save has me around early 20s but I can't tell if that's endgame. We're ripping through the 20s at the start of CS...
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 10:02 |
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Main story'll probably end with your core team somewhere in the mid-30s to low/mid 40s range, depending on how many paralogues you do. If you're really thorough, a couple of your absolute best shitwreckers might just barely reach 50 by the end.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 10:19 |
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Thanks, that makes sense. There's practically double the time between the file I looked at and the NG+ one I didn't.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 14:25 |
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the only thing I really liked about the DLC is that Edelgard and Hilda got to team up
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 15:50 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:War Monk is a punch class with some magic, so it's good for strong classes who also have a spell list you like. It is also a punch class that allows girls. Balthus doesn't make the best headliner because he also has access to War Master and his spell list is just okay. If I have someone focused entirely on brawling, I often put them through War Monk just to get the brawling avoid + before going to Grappler. But it's only worth it if grinding out the faith ranks won't detract too much from other areas.
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 18:21 |
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War monk has both the coolest magic animations and the coolest brawling animations, so there's no reason not to just be in it all the time tbqh
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# ? Nov 9, 2022 19:49 |
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Amppelix posted:War monk has both the coolest magic animations and the coolest brawling animations, so there's no reason not to just be in it all the time tbqh
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# ? Nov 10, 2022 05:48 |
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Amppelix posted:War monk has both the coolest magic animations and the coolest brawling animations, so there's no reason not to just be in it all the time tbqh Hang on. Sorry but trickster finger gun animations are definitely the superior magic animations.
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# ? Nov 10, 2022 05:51 |
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Blaziken386 posted:the fashion's not great Isn’t there an option to wear your default school/timeskip/maid outfits no matter what class you’re in?
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# ? Nov 10, 2022 10:17 |
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Playing through CS and remembering it was Dimitri's MVP most of the time in the main story (chose his path) and he's killing it here too. Lost only once, to Byleth.
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Metis of the Hallway posted:Hang on. Sorry but trickster finger gun animations are definitely the superior magic animations. the war monk ones are really snappy and punchy (which is a thing this game's animations generally tend to lack also)
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# ? Nov 10, 2022 12:25 |