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Fil5000: Jun 23, 2003; HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Looking forward to the TFTM Special Edition where Starscream's ghost is standing alongside Rodimus at the end.

# ? Nov 6, 2022 11:00

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# ? May 13, 2024 22:12

Gravitas Shortfall: Jul 17, 2007; Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.

Nodosaur posted:

The answer to the Rumble and Frenzy thing is that the cartoon was dumb and wrong

Which is why I choose to believe this toy I have, Studio Core Class Rumble (Blue)

# ? Nov 6, 2022 14:49

TaurusOxford: Feb 10, 2009; Dad of the Year 2021

xZAOx posted:

The death star would kill Unicron

Ahem. The Matrix of Leadership is the one thing - the ONLY thing - that can stand in his way. :colbert:

# ? Nov 6, 2022 16:36

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

TaurusOxford posted:

Ahem. The Matrix of Leadership is the one thing - the ONLY thing - that can stand in his way.

It's true. Also Unicorn could just like come around from the side or something.

# ? Nov 6, 2022 16:39

xZAOx: Sep 6, 2004; PORKCHOP SANDWICHES

trukk not munkey!

# ? Nov 6, 2022 17:43

Keldroc: Apr 19, 2004; Marketing materials and speculation are not spoilers. Jesus Christ.

Nodosaur posted:

The answer to the Rumble and Frenzy thing is that the cartoon was dumb and wrong

Is Armada Sparkplug's name Leader-1? No. The cartoon basically did the same thing with their colors.

Bit of a lopsided comparison there. Sparkplug's name might be Leader-1 in the fandom now if anyone cared about Armada enough to argue about it.

More Rumble toys have been red than blue, but the blue version is definitive due to being the most widely broadcast version of the character in the brand's history. Rumble is blue.

# ? Nov 6, 2022 21:03

Robot Style: Jul 5, 2009

For me it's kind of a bouba/kiki thing. It might just be because Rumble has all the letters of Blue in his name and Frenzy has most of the letters of Red, but they each "feel" more like a specific color than the other.

# ? Nov 6, 2022 21:13

Silhouette: Nov 16, 2002; SONIC BOOM!!!

The red and black one having the name evoking an angry outburst is way more fitting than the guy colored like an aromatherapy candle

# ? Nov 6, 2022 21:48

Nodosaur: Dec 23, 2014

Keldroc posted:

Bit of a lopsided comparison there. Sparkplug's name might be Leader-1 in the fandom now if anyone cared about Armada enough to argue about it.

More Rumble toys have been red than blue, but the blue version is definitive due to being the most widely broadcast version of the character in the brand's history. Rumble is blue.

Except that it doesn't change the fact that it was a production error, and that no one intended it from a creative standpoint.

It was a mistake. Rumble is red and black.

# ? Nov 6, 2022 23:11

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Rumble is red and blue and Frenzy is black and lavender

# ? Nov 7, 2022 00:48

Burkion: May 10, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Nodosaur posted:

Except that it doesn't change the fact that it was a production error, and that no one intended it from a creative standpoint.

It was a mistake. Rumble is red and black.

It was a mistake that became the reality of the show.

Do you know how many mistakes that get worked into a property or such and are beloved?

Hell I'm pretty sure a good chunk of Transformers only exists *because* they're mistakes

# ? Nov 7, 2022 02:05

Nodosaur: Dec 23, 2014

It seems more like there�s a double standard for G1 and its many flaws and errors from where I�m sitting

# ? Nov 7, 2022 02:10

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
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Nodosaur posted:

Except that it doesn't change the fact that it was a production error, and that no one intended it from a creative standpoint.

It was a mistake. Rumble is red and black.

Now do Grapple.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 02:16

Nodosaur: Dec 23, 2014

Arquinsiel posted:

Now do Grapple.

Grapple and Hauler was a different kind of mistake, that was actually used as a springboard for a creative solution that created two characters where there was only one before. A net gain for the franchise.

Rumble being blue and lavender doesn�t add up to anything positive whatsoever. You�ve still got the same character but his colors are wrong.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 02:45

Triple-Kan: Dec 29, 2008

Nodosaur posted:

It seems more like there�s a double standard for G1 and its many flaws and errors from where I�m sitting

Get a grip.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 02:59

Nodosaur: Dec 23, 2014

I mean I�m not mad or upset? I�m just saying what it seems like to me

# ? Nov 7, 2022 03:02

Burkion: May 10, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Nodosaur posted:

I mean I�m not mad or upset? I�m just saying what it seems like to me

Might have just been a Gripper joke

# ? Nov 7, 2022 03:25

Joe Fisto: Dec 6, 2002; And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

You can call a toy whatever you want. Personally I call the red and blue tapes Laverne and Shirley. I also call the dinobot triceratops Karl. Hasbro hasn�t sent out a deathsquad for me yet.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 03:51

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Bumper

# ? Nov 7, 2022 05:47

War and Pieces: Apr 24, 2022; DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Keldroc posted:

Bit of a lopsided comparison there. Sparkplug's name might be Leader-1 in the fandom now if anyone cared about Armada enough to argue about it.

More Rumble toys have been red than blue, but the blue version is definitive due to being the most widely broadcast version of the character in the brand's history. Rumble is blue.

Sicklers use the Micron Legend names for a reason

# ? Nov 7, 2022 06:05

Gravitas Shortfall: Jul 17, 2007; Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.

Rumble might be red, but Studio Core Class Rumble is (Blue)

# ? Nov 7, 2022 10:16

Fil5000: Jun 23, 2003; HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

I call them both The Tape Lads and you can't stop me.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 13:50

flavor.flv: Apr 18, 2008; I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches

Joe Fisto posted:

You can call a toy whatever you want. Personally I call the red and blue tapes Laverne and Shirley. I also call the dinobot triceratops Karl. Hasbro hasn’t sent out a deathsquad for me yet.

Laverne is the blue one, rear end in a top hat!!!

# ? Nov 7, 2022 13:59

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Nodosaur posted:

Grapple and Hauler was a different kind of mistake, that was actually used as a springboard for a creative solution that created two characters where there was only one before. A net gain for the franchise.

Rumble being blue and lavender doesn�t add up to anything positive whatsoever. You�ve still got the same character but his colors are wrong.

Hauler wasn't a character until 2003, when they painted the same toy green and re-used the name. The "anything positive whatsoever" that Rumble being blue adds up to is "the one toy had the one name for the entire cartoon", unlike Hauler and Grapple which you've decided is good for "reasons". Maybe it looks like there's a double standard from where you are because you're the one applying it?

# ? Nov 7, 2022 14:27

Rhymenoserous: May 23, 2008

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Rumble might be red, but Studio Core Class Rumble is (Blue)

I just name them whatever the last media I consumed named them and don�t worry about it overmuch.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 15:11

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Rumble is blue because a rumble is a low frequency sound, and low frequency light is blue. Frenzy is red because if you're in a frenzy, you're seeing red.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 15:19

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Dabir posted:

Rumble is blue because a rumble is a low frequency sound, and low frequency light is blue. Frenzy is red because if you're in a frenzy, you're seeing red.

Rumble is coming towards you, but Frenzy is going away.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 16:53

Nodosaur: Dec 23, 2014

Arquinsiel posted:

Hauler wasn't a character until 2003, when they painted the same toy green and re-used the name. The "anything positive whatsoever" that Rumble being blue adds up to is "the one toy had the one name for the entire cartoon", unlike Hauler and Grapple which you've decided is good for "reasons". Maybe it looks like there's a double standard from where you are because you're the one applying it?

You've certainly given me something to think about, but I'm sorry. I can't see Rumble being blue different from, say, Brawn showing up alive in Carnage in C-Minor. It's a mistake, and I think Hasbro would be better sticking to one vision for this character for the sake of not confusing people who aren't terminally on-line like the rest of us.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 17:48

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

You can't see the difference between a mistake happening in one scene vs a mistake being retained for the duration of a show?

# ? Nov 7, 2022 18:39

Nodosaur: Dec 23, 2014

Not really, because G1 was a very shoddy, disorganized production

# ? Nov 7, 2022 19:17

Nodosaur: Dec 23, 2014

Like an error that goes on for an entire series should be MORE embarrassing

# ? Nov 7, 2022 19:21

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Has anyone seen Legacy Inferno on shelves? I've seen photos of it on TFW2005, but Pulse UK lists it as coming out in December and Amazon is even worse, claims it's coming next February.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 19:46

flavor.flv: Apr 18, 2008; I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches

Edit wait use this one:

https://twitter.com/DrFunk98/status/1588926656911388672?s=20&t=5AdDbBxKx5FT5RbQ-lynPw

flavor.flv fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Nov 7, 2022

# ? Nov 7, 2022 20:31

DoctorWhat: Nov 18, 2011; A little privacy, please?

Hasbro set the expected shipping dates for a lot of Legacy/Evolution toys very late to compensate for supply chain disruptions. However, once the toys are on boats and in trucks Hasbro has no say on when they go up for sale. So lots of "isolated cases" of figures are making their way to retailers.

For example, yesterday I got SS86 Ironhide from a Target in Brooklyn.

# ? Nov 7, 2022 20:32

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."