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BRJurgis posted:I assume you're referring both to the number of democrats that aren't fully pro choice (without compromise) and having abortion to fundraiser and campaign on. in precisely the same way that a significant amount of the republican party, with a trifecta, couldn't repeal the ACA. yes, sure, they ran on doing it, insofar as the party claimed to have an electoral reason to exist it was to accomplish this goal, the opportunity to do it arose, and bizarrely, given the chance to do so, the party with the mandate to accomplish this goal discovered that actually it had more important priorities funny how that happens sometimes.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:in precisely the same way that a significant amount of the republican party, with a trifecta, couldn't repeal the ACA. Did they really have a mandate to do it or did the GOP only realize too late that the voting public would have go absolutely nuts with the effects of repealing the ACA without putting something else in place? It was my impression that it was the latter.
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BRJurgis posted:I assume you're referring both to the number of democrats that aren't fully pro choice (without compromise) and having abortion to fundraiser and campaign on. It's mainly just referring to this guy: https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1588892644016816130 He's always been a conservative jackass, though, and efforts to run more leftist candidates in his heavily red state have largely failed as far as I'm aware. Eric Cantonese posted:Did they really have a mandate to do it or did the GOP only realize too late that the voting public would have go absolutely nuts with the effects of repealing the ACA without putting something else in place? It was my impression that it was the latter. It's kind of in between the two. It turns out that by 2016, centrists meant "repeal Obamacare" to mean "pass a bill that claims to repeal Obamacare while leaving most of the actual policy in place, or replacing it with something substantially similar". Freedom Caucus types, on the other hand, genuinely wanted to repeal large parts of the actual policy proposals in the bill, and they persisted even in the face of polls showing it was extremely unpopular. They spent a good while publicly feuding over different proposals. The centrist wing of the GOP were terrified of repealing it without replacing it with something else, while the Freedom Caucus types insisted that the centrists' replacement proposals were too similar to Obamacare and didn't repeal enough of it. Ultimately, they were never able to get the sufficient number of Senate votes behind a single proposal that was also capable of passing the House.
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Main Paineframe posted:It's mainly just referring to this guy: Paula-Jean Swearingen at least seems, on paper, to be the perfect progressive candidate for WV (union family, involved in miners' rights) , but even running against an actual Republican she couldn't win or even come close. It sucks. And every attempt to move away from the coal industry, even if its just replacing it with green jobs, is met with unending resistance because dammit this occupation that employs less people than Arby's is the only way.
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I consider our leaders desire/need to cater to* an electorate that's woefully uninformed, misinformed, apathetic (and willing or forced to vote against their own interests) a step worse than what I think you're implying. I guess I'm saying the whole setup is so hosed, populace leaders and common understanding, that I can't imagine a path forward even for a group of people who wanted to represent my interests (not that I think the democrats completely do). Maybe I was preemptively playing peacekeeper on the phrasing of YMBs (warranted) attack on the dems, apologies. *for this exercise, pretend they actually want to do the "good" things
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I was unemployed and bouncing from job to job for good long minute there not too long ago and the ACA essentially kept me..well..."alive" would be too strong a word since nothing that ails me is life threatening but more "not going bankrupt" for my health issues. So I suppose "solvent" would be a better way of putting it. Although one could argue that mental health and chronic pain issues might be deemed as life threatening through certain lenses and degrees of severity. Conservative candidates and their voters are all well and good at wanting to abolish "handouts" up until it affects THEIR handouts or, probably more to the point, whenever someone gets more help than they themselves receive. In which case it's "government hands off my Medicare" time.
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Angry_Ed posted:Paula-Jean Swearingen at least seems, on paper, to be the perfect progressive candidate for WV (union family, involved in miners' rights) , but even running against an actual Republican she couldn't win or even come close. It sucks. Did you miss her recent Four Yorkshiremen routine where she declared that : Living off crackers and ketchup is luxury. The rural poor don't have access to ketchup packets. Sleeping on the streets is luxury. Poor coal miners don't have streets to sleep on. Anyone who has ever partied is bourgeoisie. The poor can't afford to party (this was also in response to someone who WORKED at parties and took home leftovers) If she is the perfect candidate for the left, there's a reason we remain on the fringes.
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Nice democracy we got going here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it https://news.yahoo.com/homeland-security-admits-tried-manufacture-114500599.html Homeland Security Admits It Tried to Manufacture Fake Terrorists for Trump quote:The Department of Homeland Security launched a failed operation that ensnared hundreds, if not thousands, of U.S. protesters in what new documents show was as a sweeping, power-hungry effort before the 2020 election to bolster President Donald Trump’s spurious claims about a “terrorist organization” he accused his Democratic rivals of supporting.
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BiggerBoat posted:Nice democracy we got going here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it "Do to the leftists what you did to the Muslims..."
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7c Nickel posted:Did you miss her recent Four Yorkshiremen routine where she declared that : I actually hadn't. But yeah that's...not great. To put it lightly.
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there's so many nice people in WV but even with them you can tell the place is tossing their brains around. It halves your willpower saving throws for insanity effects. If stephen king had grown up with familiarity to that region instead of coastal new england he would have written the King In Yellow, like the actual thing they reference in the book, and accidentally caused Dead Space to be real. The whole place is probably an Elder God burial ground they forgot to put one of those "nothing valued is here, it is best left shunned" messages on top of in case mammals ever evolved to the point of tunneling into the ground to harvest burnable rocks. Paula-Jean is not immune and you must forgive her occasional bursts into things like the Let Them Eat Ketchup speech. They're under a kind of a One Ring style effect, being compelled psychically to keep chipping away at the earthen prison beneath their feet.
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Staluigi posted:there's so many nice people in WV but even with them you can tell the place is tossing their brains around. It halves your willpower saving throws for insanity effects. If stephen king had grown up with familiarity to that region instead of coastal new england he would have written the King In Yellow, like the actual thing they reference in the book, and accidentally caused Dead Space to be real. The whole place is probably an Elder God burial ground they forgot to put one of those "nothing valued is here, it is best left shunned" messages on top of in case mammals ever evolved to the point of tunneling into the ground to harvest burnable rocks. Paula-Jean is not immune and you must forgive her occasional bursts into things like the Let Them Eat Ketchup speech. They're under a kind of a One Ring style effect, being compelled psychically to keep chipping away at the earthen prison beneath their feet. What.
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Star Man posted:What. I mean maybe it's better than the curse put on the rest of the democratic establishment which is to be caught in a mental twilight zone time warp effect that causes them to perpetually view the United States or party politics like not a day has passed from 1991.
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Star Man posted:What. It's "Junji Ito writes West Virginia." Or at least some kind of deterministic fanfiction about why everyone and everything there sucks. Honestly, I don't think that looking at it that way is especially more damaging than the way most people in the thread talk about it. Better outcomes are possible from the state, but the state needs massive systemic reform before that happens. Reforms which, it seems, the people of the state will fight against at every turn. Personally I see the problem as being similar to the way businesses function. Short-term monetary gains are imperative to maximizing shareholder value, but short term monetary gains are incompatible with long term thinking and development. In the same way, voting in democratic leadership and systemic reform in West Virginia would undeniably improve the quality of life of the theoretical average West Virginian, but is incompatible with the short-term monetary security and comfort of the people currently enjoying it. I imagine that's sort of the problem with democracy and state planning conceptually -- they're basically at odds in terms of value judgements due to their timescale.
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Staluigi posted:there's so many nice people in WV but even with them you can tell the place is tossing their brains around. It halves your willpower saving throws for insanity effects. If stephen king had grown up with familiarity to that region instead of coastal new england he would have written the King In Yellow, like the actual thing they reference in the book, and accidentally caused Dead Space to be real. The whole place is probably an Elder God burial ground they forgot to put one of those "nothing valued is here, it is best left shunned" messages on top of in case mammals ever evolved to the point of tunneling into the ground to harvest burnable rocks. Paula-Jean is not immune and you must forgive her occasional bursts into things like the Let Them Eat Ketchup speech. They're under a kind of a One Ring style effect, being compelled psychically to keep chipping away at the earthen prison beneath their feet. A post after my own heart. And agreed, red states not being the Springfield of Cosmic Horror is a huge missed opportunity.
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Staluigi posted:there's so many nice people in WV but even with them you can tell the place is tossing their brains around. It halves your willpower saving throws for insanity effects. If stephen king had grown up with familiarity to that region instead of coastal new england he would have written the King In Yellow, like the actual thing they reference in the book, and accidentally caused Dead Space to be real. The whole place is probably an Elder God burial ground they forgot to put one of those "nothing valued is here, it is best left shunned" messages on top of in case mammals ever evolved to the point of tunneling into the ground to harvest burnable rocks. Paula-Jean is not immune and you must forgive her occasional bursts into things like the Let Them Eat Ketchup speech. They're under a kind of a One Ring style effect, being compelled psychically to keep chipping away at the earthen prison beneath their feet. hang on, are you the haiti expert or the west virginia expert?
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Sharkie posted:I'm pushing back the implication that it's somehow fash to like seeing boobs and dongs. Oh goodness, no. It's not fash to like boobs and dongs. Advertisers aren't always a fan of it, though and I bet there's point on Twitter now.
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davecrazy posted:Two words: Kim Kardashian. Yeah it's almost definitely this, albeit more than just Kim. The Kardashians are notoriously image conscious and it's likely no coincidence that this is finally coming out after she's had time to pretty much completely cut him out of her life.
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Meatball posted:Oh goodness, no. It's not fash to like boobs and dongs. Ok thank you! You are right about advertisers not being a fan, but I suspect at the moment they're focusing on other things, like Elon's sweaty and impulsive brain.
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Staluigi posted:there's so many nice people in WV but even with them you can tell the place is tossing their brains around. It halves your willpower saving throws for insanity effects. If stephen king had grown up with familiarity to that region instead of coastal new england he would have written the King In Yellow, like the actual thing they reference in the book, and accidentally caused Dead Space to be real. The whole place is probably an Elder God burial ground they forgot to put one of those "nothing valued is here, it is best left shunned" messages on top of in case mammals ever evolved to the point of tunneling into the ground to harvest burnable rocks. Paula-Jean is not immune and you must forgive her occasional bursts into things like the Let Them Eat Ketchup speech. They're under a kind of a One Ring style effect, being compelled psychically to keep chipping away at the earthen prison beneath their feet. This is almost exactly the premise of the "Old Gods of Appalachia" podcast, which is pretty good.
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Quorum posted:This is almost exactly the premise of the "Old Gods of Appalachia" podcast, which is pretty good. 100% agree. I love that podcast.
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Quorum posted:This is almost exactly the premise of the "Old Gods of Appalachia" podcast, which is pretty good. the_steve posted:100% agree. I love that podcast. Looks promising. Is there a particularly good episode recommended to jump in on or just start from the beginning?
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My wife also loves it, and says to start at one. However every season starts a new story, so start at the beginning of a season if you don’t want them all right now.
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Staluigi posted:there's so many nice people in WV but even with them you can tell the place is tossing their brains around. It halves your willpower saving throws for insanity effects. If stephen king had grown up with familiarity to that region instead of coastal new england he would have written the King In Yellow, like the actual thing they reference in the book, and accidentally caused Dead Space to be real. The whole place is probably an Elder God burial ground they forgot to put one of those "nothing valued is here, it is best left shunned" messages on top of in case mammals ever evolved to the point of tunneling into the ground to harvest burnable rocks. Paula-Jean is not immune and you must forgive her occasional bursts into things like the Let Them Eat Ketchup speech. They're under a kind of a One Ring style effect, being compelled psychically to keep chipping away at the earthen prison beneath their feet. You don't even have to live there, just look at what happened when Bethesda set a Fallout game in WV
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Byzantine posted:You don't even have to live there, just look at what happened when Bethesda set a Fallout game in WV also no one lives there?
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This story is...uh...a bit thick. https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/06/us/iowa-teen-killed-alleged-rapist-escape/index.html The Iowa teen who killed her alleged rapist and was sentenced to probation has escaped from custody Michelle Watson Dakin Andone quote:Pieper Lewis, the Iowa teenager who killed a man she said raped her and was sentenced to probation and ordered to pay restitution to his family, has escaped from a residential corrections facility, according to Iowa’s Fifth Judicial District Department of Corrections. Just horrible poo poo all the way down
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-Blackadder- posted:Looks promising. Absolutely start at the beginning. Each season is it's own story, but they do plenty of callbacks and bring back characters, so, best to start at 1. BiggerBoat posted:This story is...uh...a bit thick. Jesus. While on a visceral level, I hope she clowns on everyone chasing her down for awhile, that's realistically no way to live and I hope she's able to get herself into some sort of best-case scenario, whatever that would entail.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:hang on, are you the haiti expert or the west virginia expert? Excuse me I read a Wikipedia entry on both which makes me the expert on what's good for the people there.
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Staluigi posted:there's so many nice people in WV but even with them you can tell the place is tossing their brains around. It halves your willpower saving throws for insanity effects. If stephen king had grown up with familiarity to that region instead of coastal new england he would have written the King In Yellow, like the actual thing they reference in the book, and accidentally caused Dead Space to be real. The whole place is probably an Elder God burial ground they forgot to put one of those "nothing valued is here, it is best left shunned" messages on top of in case mammals ever evolved to the point of tunneling into the ground to harvest burnable rocks. Paula-Jean is not immune and you must forgive her occasional bursts into things like the Let Them Eat Ketchup speech. They're under a kind of a One Ring style effect, being compelled psychically to keep chipping away at the earthen prison beneath their feet. I too, listen to Old Gods of Appalachia (it's a good podcast).
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Sharkie posted:Ok thank you! You are right about advertisers not being a fan, but I suspect at the moment they're focusing on other things, like Elon's sweaty and impulsive brain. The bigger problem is that unmoderated, unverified images of naked people on social media becomes a horrifying breeding ground for child exploitation.
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-Blackadder- posted:Looks promising. I'll hop in to be the nay sayer. The story is rad (i made it about halfway through the first season), but it's about equal parts story and ads, which makes it unlistenable in my opinion.
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Beast Pussy posted:I'll hop in to be the nay sayer. The story is rad (i made it about halfway through the first season), but it's about equal parts story and ads, which makes it unlistenable in my opinion. If you can weave a story about elder gods loving their Quip toothbrush after waking up from their relaxing Leesa mattress effectively then it could work
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GoutPatrol posted:If you can weave a story about elder gods loving their Quip toothbrush after waking up from their relaxing Leesa mattress effectively then it could work ngl they should have done a couple ads narrated by The Man From The Railroad
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GoutPatrol posted:If you can weave a story about elder gods loving their Quip toothbrush after waking up from their relaxing Leesa mattress effectively then it could work "Brave men, going down deep into the heart of the earth, watching their daddies die next to 'em in those cramped tunnels, with nothing to protect 'em. If only they had NordVPN to keep the demons at bay."
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the_steve posted:Absolutely start at the beginning. I can't imagine it ending well no matter how it shakes out and just...reading about this... Man, it hit me hard. Just hosed up from top to bottom without a good start, end or finish in loving sight and a just a case study of a hopeless situation with no good solutions. Not kidding when I say this story shook me for real and spun my head a bit. Made me sad.
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Beast Pussy posted:"Brave men, going down deep into the heart of the earth, watching their daddies die next to 'em in those cramped tunnels, with nothing to protect 'em. If only they had NordVPN to keep the demons at bay." Folks, have you ever passed beyond the moon gate to the realm of listless penumbra, only to find your favorite shows are no longer available in your region? With NordVPN, you have access to servers in 30 countries. Never miss an episode again!
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Seems like picking 50% as an arbitrary number and then making 3,700 decisions in a week wasn't a smart move. https://twitter.com/MattNavarra/status/1589345067013378048 quote:Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back The comedy theory that Elon is speedrunning the Lowtax business model is becoming more true by the day. He just announced that if your account is banned from Twitter, then you can buy it back for $8. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589450301916213248 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589451026981335040 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Nov 7, 2022 |
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