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I love that spinners big moment is becoming even less of a character.
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Kanos posted:I can understand why someone would have expected Aoyama to matter given that he got a few focus points, but Koda???? At this point, the mangaka is giving spotlights to all students in Class A regardless if they have been properly setup or not. Nonetheless, looks like the spotlight will now shift from Koji to Kurogiri.
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Nov 7, 2022 02:20
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Valentin posted:also when he used the pig dude for the reaction shot of the hospital doctors i was like oh did this guy show up earlier in the chapter and i wasn't paying attention? is he like our mob POV character? and the answer is no but inexplicably there are a lot of uniquely-designed pig/warthog type dudes in this chapter. the reaction shots to both shoji and spinner's speeches feature two other visually distinct pig-based heteromorphs for some reason. I understand the confusion, but those are cops.
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Nov 7, 2022 13:29
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Valentin posted:i get what hori's going for with the paneling (i think) but lmao that we're being formally experimental and getting into spinner's POV so that we don't have to spend any time on the actual action of the mob stopping and dispersing. like i'm sure we'll go back to it later for cleanup and it'll be like oh shoji stopped the cop from firing/took the bullet and spinner killed some doctors or something, but with the intentionally vague closing pages and the sudden swerve it has a vibe of "okay yeah enough mutant racism or whatever time for what the people really want: present mic & spinner 1v1 Pretty sure the cop that fired his gun was aiming at Spinner since that same page we see him getting crushed while Spinner is busting through the front door.
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Nov 7, 2022 14:13
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I was thinking for a while that the big lady was maybe modeled after a deer as some goofy shot at an English/Japanese pun- "ordinary woman"/"Jane Doe" but then she turned out to be blue?? Also she has prominent canines.
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Nov 7, 2022 14:44
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I hope every character reveals that they had an offscreen conversation with big lady that radically defines their giant character moment they're getting in a single chapter.
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Nov 7, 2022 14:56
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Rhonne posted:Pretty sure the cop that fired his gun was aiming at Spinner since that same page we see him getting crushed while Spinner is busting through the front door. we see A cop getting crushed, with neither the distinguishing facial features of the cop with the gun (who looks like a primate mutant of some kind?) nor a gun in his hand. it's both an easy and probable read of it and also not unambiguous enough to be certain e: on a reread this morning I do think it's supposed to be "the cop shoots at spinner and gets immediately crushed, the mob just sort of spontaneously stops out of embarrassment when they see the doctors and nurses" which is maybe the funniest way you could have resolved the entire sequence, props to Hori Valentin fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Nov 7, 2022 |
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Nov 7, 2022 15:38
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No one could bring themselves to hurting Dr. Yoshi.
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Nov 7, 2022 16:05
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he’d better hope that no one nearby needs to cross a large gap
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Nov 7, 2022 16:13
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Valentin posted:we see A cop getting crushed, with neither the distinguishing facial features of the cop with the gun (who looks like a primate mutant of some kind?) nor a gun in his hand. it's both an easy and probable read of it and also not unambiguous enough to be certain i "like" that all these heteromorphs have come outta the woodwork to stop the no good very bad heteromorphs from stopping racism the wrong way.
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Nov 7, 2022 16:48
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Brandfarlig posted:I love that spinners big moment is becoming even less of a character. Oxxidation posted:i don't particularly like that at all!
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Nov 7, 2022 17:50
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Is sarcasm healthy?
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Nov 7, 2022 17:52
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Delphisage posted:Is sarcasm healthy? oh yeah, it’s the best
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Nov 7, 2022 17:53
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Oxxidation posted:oh yeah, it’s the best I actually felt that anger. Hey Oxxidation, as long as I have you here, what characters aside from Bakugo do you feel are more than action figures? Delphisage fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 7, 2022 |
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Nov 7, 2022 17:59
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At some point you have to start appreciating Horis ability to gently caress up.
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Nov 7, 2022 18:54
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Rhonne posted:No one could bring themselves to hurting Dr. Yoshi. This comic's been about silly, reference-heavy superhero designs since day one, but there really is something about this message about discrimination being delivered with a totally-played-straight drawing of a silent, world-weary cartoon dinosaur.
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Nov 7, 2022 19:46
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Valentin posted:e: on a reread this morning I do think it's supposed to be "the cop shoots at spinner and gets immediately crushed, the mob just sort of spontaneously stops out of embarrassment when they see the doctors and nurses" which is maybe the funniest way you could have resolved the entire sequence, props to Hori Yeah, looking at it you can see first the gun, then a shot of inside the hospital doors with bang sound effects, followed by Spinner crashing through the door and splatting a cop. Seems like he's dead. And then pages 11 and 12 we see the pig guy (who I'm guessing is supposed to be the audiences gauge for the mob's disposition) register the doctors, remember Shoji's speech and a doctor helping someone and we see the crowd stop moving and someone dropping their weapon. Presumably, as they watch Spinner massacre a bunch of unarmed, innocent doctors and realise how hosed up this all is. Also it's interesting that Shoji thinks about Aoyama when giving his speech. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Nov 7, 2022 |
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Nov 7, 2022 20:49
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TheHan posted:i "like" that all these heteromorphs have come outta the woodwork to stop the no good very bad heteromorphs from stopping racism the wrong way. Hori has probably read a lot of X-Men comics where the good mutants fight to stop the evil mutants from killing the humans that hate and fear them.
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Nov 7, 2022 22:39
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the main difference in x-men's case is that the entire cast is mutants so you theoretically get a lot of perspectives on both sides of the issue with characters explored in-depth
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Nov 7, 2022 22:46
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I'm pretty sure that they tell the same story in X-Men since y'know, almost everyone in MHA has mutant-like powers too and it isn't like anyone's going to know at a glance if Scott Summers or Kitty Pryde are mutants like they'd be able with Nightcrawler
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Nov 7, 2022 23:13
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Hori specifically emphasizes that the anti-mutie sentiment is because of how they look and not what they can do, which seems silly but well the non-mutant humans can have dangerous quirks too. The X-men always had the problem where it fails as an allegory for racism because the mutants can be in fact, insanely loving dangerous to everyone. It's a decent, emotional story but there's one where a kid manifests a power that instagibs everyone around him for miles and kills basically an entire city on accident, and Wolverine gets sent to kill him and cover it up because it might cause anti-mutant sentiment.
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Nov 8, 2022 02:57
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I remember that. It was Ultimate X-Men, if I'm not mistaken.
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Nov 8, 2022 03:19
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The current X-Men status quo in comics right now is "drat right you normal humans should fear us mutants, WE'RE GOING TO RULE YOU EVENTUALLY" funnily enough.
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Nov 8, 2022 03:39
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Tampa Bae posted:I'm pretty sure that they tell the same story in X-Men since y'know, almost everyone in MHA has mutant-like powers too and it isn't like anyone's going to know at a glance if Scott Summers or Kitty Pryde are mutants like they'd be able with Nightcrawler what if your mutant power is to know at a glance if scott summers or kitty pryde are mutants what then
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Manatee Cannon posted:what if your mutant power is to know at a glance if scott summers or kitty pryde are mutants
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Nov 8, 2022 04:59
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Tampa Bae posted:That person is Charles Xavier and he's a good guy tho 
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Fabricated posted:Hori specifically emphasizes that the anti-mutie sentiment is because of how they look and not what they can do, which seems silly but well the non-mutant humans can have dangerous quirks too. Well, the setting's history is that there was a lot of x-men style conflict when quirks first started appearing. You could probably make a prequel spin-off pretty easily. If anything MHA is just X-Men 100 years into the future. I'd say that's actually more true to how stupid and arbitrary real racism is. MHA racism isn't about having a quirk or not, its just about looking different. Theres actually a MHA one-shot chapter where Deku, Bakugo and Uraraka intern with Mirko that is basically a homage to that comic. A kid's quirk is to shoot poisonous gas out and he can only contain it for so long so keeps randomly gassing crowds of people. Luckily they don't have to knife him like Wolverine, Uraraka and Bakugo toss him into the sky to safely release it. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Nov 8, 2022 |
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Nov 8, 2022 14:51
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Hey kid, you ever think about just going to a loving field?
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Villain Name - Silent But Deadly
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Tampa Bae posted:That person is Charles Xavier and he's a good guy tho He secretly has people buried alive so that he can claim his sexy new country has no prisons.
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Nov 9, 2022 03:21
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Caidin posted:He secretly has people buried alive so that he can claim his sexy new country has no prisons. In fairness he did that to Sabretooth and if anyone deserves to be buried alive forever it's him.
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Funky Valentine posted:In fairness he did that to Sabretooth and if anyone deserves to be buried alive forever it's him. He also did to several other people! One of them's only apparent crime was telling people that having babies and leaving them in the foliage for someone else to figure out is really really hosed up.
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Nov 9, 2022 14:26
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The new Xmen poo poo sucks rear end. The last time it was even interesting was the Jean Grey School arc. Featuring Wolverine forcing Spider-Man to be a guest lecturer for the extra weirdo X kids.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The new Xmen poo poo sucks rear end. The last time it was even interesting was the Jean Grey School arc. Featuring Wolverine forcing Spider-Man to be a guest lecturer for the extra weirdo X kids. I haven't read Marvel comics in a long time but this Krakoa nation-state stuff reminds me a lot of Messiah Complex, when Cable made a utopia
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Nov 9, 2022 15:31
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The new Xmen poo poo sucks rear end. Maybe the stuff that followed hasn't been as good, but it was a really good retooling of the line.
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Nov 10, 2022 05:23
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grieving for Gandalf posted:I haven't read Marvel comics in a long time but this Krakoa nation-state stuff reminds me a lot of Messiah Complex, when Cable made a utopia Or when scott did the same thing a few years ago. Or when magneto did the same thing.
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FilthyImp posted:The core X of X series from 2019 really did redefine the Mutant population and created a unifying Mutant Culture that is both horny and hedonistic and proud as all gently caress. When Hickman left all subsequent writers basically ignored all his "this is going to result in a really hosed up country" warning signs and seemingly went all-in on "yes the progressively-sociopathic ethnostate run by Apocalypse, Magneto, and Mister loving Sinister is cool and good".
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Nov 10, 2022 05:36
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I don't know what any of you people are talking about, but I just want to chime in that X-Men derail is a welcome change from Naruto or One Piece derail.
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Nov 10, 2022 06:52
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I would welcome panel shots of these X-Men events people are talking about if anyone feels like sharing them as well
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Funky Valentine posted:When Hickman left all subsequent writers basically ignored all his "this is going to result in a really hosed up country" warning signs and seemingly went all-in on "yes the progressively-sociopathic ethnostate run by Apocalypse, Magneto, and Mister loving Sinister is cool and good". Yeah, one of Hickman's favorite plots is "Great Men decide that They Can Fix The World, achieve amazing things, and then are either destroyed by their hubris or barely realize their errors in time, backing away from the edge at the last second as they watch others go flying to their dooms." The current run on X-Men is basically Marvel getting Hickman to start another plot in that style, then deciding they were liking the "achieve amazing things" part and stopping there after asking Hickman if they could just draw it out for a bit, if I understand correctly.
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