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🦋 | 15 | 3.71% | |
🦇 | 115 | 28.47% | |
🪰 | 12 | 2.97% | |
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dragonfly | 94 | 23.27% | |
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Lostconfused posted:Ok, but same deal here. Someone's gonna need to denazify US after. I propose a Strangers on a Train situation where we denazify Canada and Canada denazifys the US
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 20:51 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:50 |
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tristeham posted:the US must denazify Canada
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 20:56 |
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cuba can denazify the united states
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:05 |
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Ardennes posted:The problem is if the war itself is damaging the West in way that it really doesn't want to have to sustain. The damage being done to the Russia military very well simply not be sustainable in its current form, less because of funding, but because putting pressure on Western economies that can't be easily addressed. You can destroy some Russians tanks etc, but that very well may be fairly minor in the broader calculus as much broader supply issues are gathering pace and interest rates are getting to where a recession may turn into effectively a depression. I agree that there will be a point where continuing the war might do more damage to the collective West than to Russia. Furthermore, we might be past that point.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:10 |
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I wish I knew what part of ukriane my Ukraine family was from.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:12 |
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i say swears online posted:there are nearly more sikhs in india than there are people in canada lmao.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:15 |
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Frosted Flake posted:must have been per capita. there's enough sikhs under the colors of the republic that we made an oc donut steel helmet for them which looks like something out of warhammer 40k imperial guard.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:18 |
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Frosted Flake posted:
9:00 AM every loving news site was saying the russians started it
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:19 |
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Freezer posted:I agree that there will be a point where continuing the war might do more damage to the collective West than to Russia. Furthermore, we might be past that point. I would say also that the "tail" from that damage may be fairly long, you usually work from the demand side or the supply side, but it is sort of tough to do both of them at once.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:23 |
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Intel Slava Z posted:
beeg span
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:27 |
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https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1589627280099155968 i see the election meddling derangement is starting up again. libs are gonna melt down not understanding that the head of the wagner group "admitting" to US election interference on russian TV is basically the same as "admitting" how massive his dick is. real shocking relevation, please dont hold it against me yall!
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:34 |
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euphronius posted:I wish I knew what part of ukriane my Ukraine family was from. There are a lot of resources for Galician Genealogy I stumbled across when looking for maps. I'm guessing they are mostly used for nefarious purposes and veneration of the Funnily enough while quickly searching for the Ukrainian word for "homeland" writing this post, it turns out Canadian Ukrainians love using "Fatherland" in English which is uh... out of step... with the rest of Canadian society. Additionally - and I had no idea about this until today and will try to find out more - part of the decision to transplant the Perpetrators and Collaborators to Canada may have been because Too many Ukrainian Canadians had volunteered to fight against Fascism in WW2 which made the Canadian government further suspicious of them as Reds. Please not that the author's tone is about what you can expect in Canada vis a vis Ukraine so "unified and independent Ukraine not always in harmony with the policies of Canada and its allies" means "collaborating with the Third Reich": The politics of Ukrainian organizations in Canada which sought the establishment of a unified and independent Ukraine were not always in harmony with the policies of Canada and its allies. The Ukrainian left supported German and Russian dismemberment of interwar Poland, while the Ukrainian right recognized neither Polish nor Soviet rule over Ukrainian lands. As a consequence, organizations on both ends of this spectrum came under the scrutiny of the Defence of Canada Regulations. Misgivings about the loyalty of Ukrainians became particularly focused during the 1942 plebiscite called to release Prime Minister Mackenzie King's government from previous pledges to avoid conscription for overseas service. In Alberta the sole riding to register a clear No vote was Vegreville, a constituency in which Ukrainians formed a majority of voters, and where the sitting Member of Parliament was Anthony Hlynka of the Social Credit Party. Every segment of the organized Ukrainian community favoured releasing the government from its conscription promises. The Ukrainian Canadian Committee urged a unified Yes vote to allow the government to freely explore all military avenues required for the welfare of the nation. The Ukrainskyi holos [Ukrainian Voice] newspaper, published by the Ukrainian Self Reliance League, and the voice of the large Orthodox community, was adamant that not a single vote should be neglected and urged all "in light of their own interest as Canadian citizens concerned about the welfare of Canada" to vote "Yes". In Edmonton, the local Ukrainian Canadian Committee formed a group under Peter Lazarowich to promote a Yes vote, and former MP Michael Luchkowich addressed the community on the subject over radio stations CJCA and CFRN. Ukrainski visti made its own position clear in its editorial, “Let Us Vote 'Yes'”. In spite of the official unanimity of Ukrainians towards the plebiscite, the community was in fact quite fractured along political lines. In the riding of Vegreville in particular, there were several reasons why the vote went heavily against the Liberal government's plebiscite. During the war years, one of the most powerful organizations within Alberta was the pro-communist Ukrainian Labour Farmer Temple Association [ULFTA). This group condemned fascism, but applauded the German-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact of 23 August 1939 and, while not openly opposing Canada's participation in the war, was nevertheless suppressed by the Canadian government. On 4 June 1940, the Defence of Canada Regulations outlawed the ULFT A and its newspapers. Many of the association's properties were seized and disposed of and 33 of its leaders interned. After Germany's attack on the USSR on 22 June 1941, the ULFTA reappeared as the Ukrainian Association to Aid the Fatherland, and later as the Association of United Ukrainian Canadians. While the association was officially in favour of a Yes vote during the 1942 plebiscite, there was nevertheless a substantial community of interest among the Ukrainians of Alberta that had reason to vote No as a protest over specific losses suffered at the hands of the Liberal government. ... Congress participants reiterated that the sacrifices of their sons and daughters in the war effort were to be the final word on the loyalties and rights of Ukrainians in Canada. Congress records note that hundreds of Ukrainians were part of the First Canadian Division. An estimated 11.4 % of Ukrainians in Canada were in uniform, a figure above the national average, and many had already made the supreme sacrifice at Hong Kong and Dieppe. Several hundred commissioned officers among the Ukrainian-Canadians in all branches of the military included Squadron Leaders and a Lieutenant Colonel. ... Although the estimated number of Ukrainian-Canadian men and women serving in the forces numbers between 30,000 and 50,000, there are in fact no precise data on either the overall figures or the number of recruits from Alberta. In 1946, a commemorative almanac honouring Ukrainian-Canadians in the military listed 252 Ukrainian Albertans wounded in action, 168 killed in action, 68 missing in action and 16 prisoners of war. One of the few verifiable figures on enlistment indicates that of 55,273 enlistees completing occupational history forms, 12,389 listed Ukrainian as a spoken language. Of 43,580 Alberta enlistees, the largest language group registered, other than English, was Ukrainian with 2265 respondents. Of 730,000 personnel of the Canadian Army [Active] from 1939 to 1945, 75,887 [10.80 %] knew English and another language other than French. I've always thought of the settlement of the Waffen SS in Canada as a betrayal of the nation, and of the Canadian left, but I'm just trying to wrap my head around guys fighting through Normandy or shot down over Berlin realizing that the Nazi collaborators were being settled in their community and given leadership of all of their political and social organizations.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:40 |
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https://tass.com/economy/1532963quote:Trade turnover between Russia and China up 33% in 10M 2022 – China’s Customs trade number up up up
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 21:56 |
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Таврическая Республика posted:
welcome back general mud
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 22:18 |
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Danann posted:(from t.me/Tauride_Republic/2619, via tgsa) The General may well be rotated back out in time for december.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 22:38 |
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https://twitter.com/uamemesforces/status/1589647639678971906 Poor dumb tankies. How can you even compare these two wars?
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 22:54 |
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iCe-CuBe. posted:https://twitter.com/uamemesforces/status/1589647639678971906 100 Orders “The 100 Orders are ‘binding instructions or directives to the Iraqi people that create penal consequences or have a direct bearing on the way Iraqis are regulated, including changes to Iraqi law’ created in early 2004 by Paul Bremer under the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. The orders called for the de-Baathification of Iraq as well as extensive economic changes. Most of the economic changes are focused on transitioning the economy of Iraq from a centrally planned economy to a market economy, as outlined in the contract by BearingPoint.” As Ukraine has decided to privatize their entire state anyway, it blurs the distinction a bit.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:01 |
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There's pressure on a Canadian Army Journal to retract the article WHITEWASHING THE SS: THE ATTEMPT TO RE-WRITE THE HISTORY OF HITLER’S COLLABORATORS, published October 30, 2020.esprit de corps posted:Over the years some Ukrainian Canadians have staunchly defended the 14th SS Division Galicia. They have falsely claimed that Ukrainians who served in the division were conscripted, when in reality 80,000 volunteered and 13,000 were selected. Other apologists argue that the division fought only to protect Ukrainian territory. This too is false.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:11 |
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Hadlock posted:mildly suprised to see blue checks in australia and no blue checks in argentina croatian facists were resettled there after ww2
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:12 |
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Interesting take at the announced nationalizations https://twitter.com/anatoliisharii/status/1589700265212420096 He also said the reason why Kolomoisky's Ukrainian citizenship was revoked was that he would be spared capital seizures
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:13 |
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Megamissen posted:croatian facists were resettled there after ww2 As a result of the same conference with the UK that placed Ukrainians in Canada, it should be noted.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:19 |
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I can't speak in much detail on the Canadian-Ukrainian situation, I was a toddler at the time, but from asking my parents and family friends about why the heck the Ukrainian community puts up monuments to the Waffen SS, was told in the early 1980s in Winnipeg there were still sharp divisions between community orgs/cultural associations: the 'Kiev Ukrainian' groups were essentially pro-Soviet, the 'Lvov Ukrainian' groups were Banderites. They hated each other, so you'd get community festivals where there'd be two separate competing Ukrainian pavilions, etc. So even with the clear intent of the Canadian govt to inject a particular sort of Ukrainian into the population in wake of WW2, the effort doesnt seem to have been successful even decades later. I'm not sure when the tide shifted entirely in favour of the Lvov side, but I suspect the end of the USSR was not unrelated.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:20 |
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VitriolicBurn posted:I can't speak in much detail on the Canadian-Ukrainian situation, I was a toddler at the time, but from asking my parents and family friends about why the heck the Ukrainian community puts up monuments to the Waffen SS, was told in the early 1980s in Winnipeg there were still sharp divisions between community orgs/cultural associations: the 'Kiev Ukrainian' groups were essentially pro-Soviet, the 'Lvov Ukrainian' groups were Banderites. They hated each other, so you'd get community festivals where there'd be two separate competing Ukrainian pavilions, etc. Remember that these Kiev Ukrainian groups immediately sent people to Ukraine to rewrite their constitution, decollectivize agriculture and God knows what else and Freeland still complained that the Ukrainians in Ukraine were not true Ukrainians. I would not be shocked if they also cranked up the pressure at home. They had a free hand to attempt to reshape Ukraine abroad and it still has not succeeded, though 2014 propelled them to new heights. Also, considering the timespan, it's possible that the less Political Ukrainians assimilated into mainstream Canadian society by the 2000's. Without the fire of irredentism and revanchism burning, as well as a Political project that needed apologia, probably there was less need to get children on board. The German Canadians who grew up bouncing on Opa's knee hearing about the lost territories are probably going to hang onto "Germanness" longer than those who have a German last name and not much else to set them apart. Particularly if their view of the Second World War and its outcome aligns with Canadian society as a whole. I know less about this, but it might have also dovetailed with the end of the USSR as you said. I haven't seen this reported outside of Canada but Freeland has daily calls with the Ukrainian President and Finance Minister's Offices. She got Petro Poroshenko out of jail singlehandedly. She went on a media blitz to punish the Premier of Alberta for speaking out against the war - https://globalnews.ca/news/9215922/danielle-smith-russia-ukraine-comments-chrystia-freeland/. She's the frontrunner to become the NATO Secretary General, which if she has a free hand, almost certainly means I'll die abroad and some of you may die at home lol jfc https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/04/world/europe/nato-next-secretary-general.html. Canada is issuing Bonds for Ukraine at her directive https://globalnews.ca/video/9234664/canadas-finance-minister-responds-to-ukrainian-sovereignty-bonds/. Her sole response to inflation, and indeed "energy, economy, climate" has been to blame Russia https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/freeland-putin-us-1.6613523. We let the Minister from CSIS (look into it) accumulate power at our peril, and now Canada's strength, such that it is, has been harnessed for her pet project.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:36 |
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Anybody post that Biden is a Putin puppet yet? https://www.wsj.com/articles/senior-white-house-official-involved-in-undisclosed-talks-with-top-putin-aides-11667768988
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:44 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Remember that these Kiev Ukrainian groups immediately sent people to Ukraine to rewrite their constitution, decollectivize agriculture and God knows what else and Freeland still complained that the Ukrainians in Ukraine were not true Ukrainians. I would not be shocked if they also cranked up the pressure at home. They had a free hand to attempt to reshape Ukraine abroad and it still has not succeeded, though 2014 propelled them to new heights. I mean at least NATO general secretary is not a real job, as far as I can tell.
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:50 |
Truga posted:
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:56 |
Frosted Flake posted:You're all much better at this than I, but I hope this illustrates the point lmao
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# ? Nov 7, 2022 23:58 |
Frosted Flake posted:I was thinking about a good way to explain what happened in terms readily comparable to the English-speaking world and I think I have one. Lmao Canada really is just an experiment to create the worst version of every form of whitey Marvel Comics were right all along
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:00 |
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iCe-CuBe. posted:https://twitter.com/uamemesforces/status/1589647639678971906 Here is my nuclear hot take: The states should have annexed Iraq, turned it into an American state, actually rebuild the local government and shipped nonstop soft cultural influence into the region to repair their image (and get that oil or whatever) America was seen as very cool and alluring culture in the 70's in Iraq I think they could have tapped into some of that energy. Thats not even my worst take.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:02 |
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lol its full of irish protestants are you loving kidding me lamo
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:02 |
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Seatbelts posted:Here is my nuclear hot take: Yeah this is the thinking of people that only consume western propaganda. US could make things better, they just chose not to and always will because it's not in their interest to make things better.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:06 |
tristeham posted:the US must denazify Canada
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:06 |
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Is hilarious the PR move to present Canada as a better, nicer, more functional version of the US
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:07 |
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Seatbelts posted:Here is my nuclear hot take: That's a good day's work in the bad take factory. Well done. How is the US rebuilding the Flint water supply coming along, by the way?
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:07 |
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Lostconfused posted:Yeah this is the thinking of people that only consume western propaganda. US could make things better, they just chose not to and always will because it's not in their interest to make things better. I mean the US spent 6 trillion on fighting poo poo in the middle east for no reason; that money could have help people instead. genericnick posted:That's a good day's work in the bad take factory. Well done. In my fantasy America spends money on civil services and infrastructure.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:13 |
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I like to think about good things happening too.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:15 |
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A Bakers Cousin posted:lol its full of irish protestants are you loving kidding me lamo Toronto, the Belfast of Canada: The Orange Order and the Shaping of Municipal Culture In late nineteenth-century Toronto, municipal politics were so dominated by the Irish Protestants of the Orange Order that the city was known as the "Belfast of Canada." For almost a century, virtually every mayor of Toronto was an Orangeman and the anniversary of the Battle of the Boyne was a civic holiday. Toronto, the Belfast of Canada explores the intolerant origins of today's cosmopolitan city. Using lodge membership lists, census data, and municipal records, William J. Smyth details the Orange Order's role in creating Toronto's municipal culture of militant Protestantism, loyalism, and monarchism. One of Canada's foremost experts on the Orange Order, Smyth analyses the Orange Order's influence between 1850 and 1950, the city's frequent public displays of sectarian tensions, and its occasional bouts of rioting and mayhem. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 00:21 on Nov 8, 2022 |
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mags posted:seems like both sides of this capitalist war are shitlibs throwing words around to affect, unconcerned with historical accuracy, but it doesn't help that Ukraine actually does have nazis all the way up into the higher echelons of government with an explicitly neo-nazi death squad as an official army battalion This is from a fair way back but I feel obliged to point out to any lurkers or infrequent visitors that Ukraine has a great deal more than one explicitly Nazi unit in it's army. speng31b posted:nationalising wartime industries, hmm These dudes are apparently the biggest manufacturer of transformers in Europe and one of the 10 biggest in the world, so I guess that's a good thing for Ukraine's ability to repair their grid.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:25 |
speng31b posted:Ukrainians have really been sold a bridge, um, so to speak What an interesting statistic
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:28 |
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lmao the other side of my family was Austrian colonial aristocracy in Galicia they later went to South Africa to work for the English king as mercenaries lamo
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 00:29 |