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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Al-Saqr posted:wow I can’t believe my impression from June that Russia will ultimately lose the war or settle for far less was true, what an embarrassing strategic catastrophe for the Russians. you steadfastly held on to this stance and never wavered, a sign of true genius
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Nov 9, 2022 16:40
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WoodrowSkillson posted:i dont care who wins i just want the war to end and people to stop dying.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:41
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Al-Saqr posted:glad the wars end is in sight quoting this so we can look back at it and laugh heartily as we wait for the latest news from the 14th zaporozhia offensive in the fall of 2028
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Nov 9, 2022 16:41
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Al-Saqr posted:but man seeing the Russians really get their just desserts for what they did in Syria is really satisfying. You could have saved 8 months of posting and just posted that and saved everyone a lot of time.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:41
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Yeah I don't know why anyone would be crowing about a ukrainian victory at this point in time.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:42
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Southpaugh posted:Yeah I don't know why anyone would be crowing about a ukrainian victory at this point in time. getting kherson handed to them is a major victory for ukraine.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:43
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who controlled Kherson before the war started
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Nov 9, 2022 16:44
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Ardennes posted:You could have saved 8 months of posting and just posted that and saved everyone a lot of time. how so? i don’t have any emotional attachment to which side wins in this conflict since both of them are bad but seeing the military that helped the people who murdered my friend get walloped is emotionally satisfying in a completely meaningless and empty way. but throughout this war I did my best to read events with detachment and adjust my impressions according to the information, the middle of last summer was when my gut told me that the Russians were no longer capable of securing a big victory, the reserve call up was all about maintaining gains and nothing else, they have lost the ability to win the war. I’m glad the war is almost over and that’s the most important part. Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 16:47 on Nov 9, 2022 |
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Nov 9, 2022 16:44
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euphronius posted:who controlled Kherson before the war started Kherson was controlled by Ukraine but fell within like the first week during the initial thrust of the invasion
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Nov 9, 2022 16:46
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A few days ago itt we were talking about colonial projects and how there are parallels between Ulster (Small Israel), Israel (Regular Israel) and The Ukraine (Big Israel). Anyway, heres a 2009 documentary in which a liberal Israeli lives in Belfast for a while and interviews people about said parallels. He tries and imo fails to both sides both conflicts and its pretty fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71xFuIiXMZw
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Nov 9, 2022 16:46
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Al-Saqr posted:how so? i don’t have any emotional attachment to which side wins in this conflict since both of them are bad but seeing the military that helped the people who murdered my friend get walloped is emotionally satisfying in a completely meaningless and empty way. I’m glad the war is almost over and that’s the most important part. I hope things get better man, I honestly do.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:48
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speng31b posted:getting kherson handed to them is a major victory for ukraine. A victory, singular is not Victory. The political realities haven't changed which means we will continue to see fighting and violence.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:50
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i'm just hoping this isn't some weird fog of war poo poo and it actually could lead to or be part of a larger ceasefire.Southpaugh posted:A victory, singular is not Victory. The political realities haven't changed which means we will continue to see fighting and violence. could be. still hoping it's the start of negotations.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:50
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it was my opinion Russia always saw the Dnieper as a “natural” border
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Nov 9, 2022 16:51
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Al-Saqr posted:I’m glad the war is almost over and that’s the most important part. bookmarking this
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Nov 9, 2022 16:52
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euphronius posted:it was my opinion Russia always saw the Dnieper as a “natural” border Weird that they spent so much time fighting for territory on the wrong side of it then. And annexing it.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:54
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why do you think that is weird ?
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Nov 9, 2022 16:56
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euphronius posted:why do you think that is weird ? You're suggesting they always planned to fall back to the natural border, but announcing that they annexed the territory they planned to give up would be incredibly stupid, because it calls into question their commitment to all the other territory they annexed.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:57
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I think they wanted to hold Kherson but the attacks simply added up to the point it choked their supply lines. That said, it didn’t seem they had a good response to those attacks. The annexation was 6 weeks ago, it very well may have been they thought they could hold it and then it just wasn’t possible.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:59
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:You're suggesting they always planned to fall back to the natural border, but announcing that they annexed the territory they planned to give up would be incredibly stupid, because it calls into question their commitment to all the other territory they annexed. oh I’ll have to look at a map again I’m probably confused sorry
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Nov 9, 2022 16:59
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Jose Mengelez posted:it sure does seem like russia's sucking incredible amounts of rear end right now.
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Nov 9, 2022 16:59
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yeah there is no way that russia intended all along to give up the major city in an oblast they annexed lol, this is a big dub for ukraine hope the war ends soon
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Nov 9, 2022 17:00
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you are right doctor kool aids 
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Nov 9, 2022 17:01
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FWIW Russia should have viewed the Dnieper as a natural boundary once it became clear that they were having to settle for a lot less than they initially planned, so this decision should have been made a long time ago. You weren't wrong that it would be the smart thing to do, Russia just didn't do it.
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Nov 9, 2022 17:03
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WoodrowSkillson posted:i dont care who wins i just want the war to end and people to stop dying. I also want this…and the more victories Ukraine racks up the less likely it is
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Nov 9, 2022 17:04
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euphronius posted:if your goal is to kill all the nazis and you only kill some of them , I would not say that is a failure. The goal was never really to kill Nazis, op.
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Nov 9, 2022 17:07
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Majorian posted:The goal was never really to kill Nazis, op. hmm I disagree but that’s ok. war is a complicated thing
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Nov 9, 2022 17:07
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If Russia thinks that it can't hold Kherson, even with all the extra troops that they've called up, the military situation must be a lot grimmer than they've admitted to. Like other posters have said, I can't believe they'd casually abandon the city, after expending so much time and effort to capture it in the 1st place. Is this them settling into easily defensible positions for the winter and trying to wait the Ukrainians out?
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Nov 9, 2022 17:08
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:FWIW Russia should have viewed the Dnieper as a natural boundary once it became clear that they were having to settle for a lot less than they initially planned, so this decision should have been made a long time ago. You weren't wrong that it would be the smart thing to do, Russia just didn't do it. Are they going to settle though? Or are they going to do another dumbass offensive once they find coats for all the conscripts?
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Nov 9, 2022 17:08
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yeah anyone who thinks this war wasn’t between two rightwing reactionary countries is legitimately fooling themselves, although the ukranian embrace of nazi symbology was thoroughly disgusting.
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Nov 9, 2022 17:09
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euphronius posted:hmm I disagree but that’s ok. war is a complicated thing Nah, you're just wrong.
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Nov 9, 2022 17:09
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Majorian posted:The goal was never really to kill Nazis, op. what was the goal in your opinion?
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Nov 9, 2022 17:10
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its a war between two lovely capitalist forces with ukraine being the punching bag that nazis are getting owned on both sides is the only good thing i hope the war ends soon before this drags out to be another afghanistan
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Nov 9, 2022 17:11
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Just looked at Russia Today and in the article there they're basically admitting that they were in a precarious position in Kherson and didn't want to risk their forces on the right bank getting completely cut off.
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Nov 9, 2022 17:11
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Southpaugh posted:what was the goal in your opinion? Regime change in Kyiv, annex some or all of the Donbas, keep Ukraine out of NATO and the EU.
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Nov 9, 2022 17:12
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HallelujahLee posted:that nazis are getting owned on both sides is the only good thing I wouldn't bet on that either, this war will be a great recruitment tool for nazis everywhere in the longer term
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Nov 9, 2022 17:12
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genericnick posted:Are they going to settle though? Or are they going to do another dumbass offensive once they find coats for all the conscripts? They should, and Russia finding some way to stabilize a line and signal that they aren't interested in further expansion is probably the only way this thing ends in the foreseeable future since countries that supported Ukraine's national defense might get tired of funding a war of perpetual reconquest that seems to have stagnated, but Russia's made a lot of bad decisions so I don't know if they'll try to go for the throat again. Or if they'll demonstrate an ability to stabilize the line for that matter.
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Nov 9, 2022 17:13
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speng31b posted:I wouldn't bet on that either, this war will be a great recruitment tool for nazis everywhere in the longer term true thats other flip side of them getting whacked in the war
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Nov 9, 2022 17:14
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Majorian posted:Regime change in Kyiv, annex some or all of the Donbas, keep Ukraine out of NATO and the EU. I really took "de-nazification" as a euphemism for regime change.
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Nov 9, 2022 17:14
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Yes 70 thousand casualties to gain military control of the Donbas and some land near Kherson is a victory (?)
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