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MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

Kenning posted:

We should be able to vote on 25 people per election cycle who have a net worth above $20 million who can be freely hunted for sport.

And you get to keep what you kill.

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Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


How can they possibly fine you for the napkins. Tell Sacto to send the napkins inspector because that lady asked for the napkins you don't know what she's talking about.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
look all i know is ive already had one annoying gringa lecture me about it and I'm not going through it again. truly a lose lose situation for me. i should look up if my assemblyman voted for it and maybe mail him some dogshit or something if he did.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Kenning posted:

We should be able to vote on 25 people per election cycle who have a net worth above $20 million who can be freely hunted for sport.

didnt the paul pelosi hammer guy already demonstrate that this is basically already in effect

i mean sure, youll go to prison after, but it aint like anyones gonna stop you from doing the hunt

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Obviously still early but statewide and LA county/city stuff is looking pretty good.

It looks like the ballot prop that allows us to fire sheriffs is going to pass, and it looks like it will apply to somebody besides Villanueva who's getting his rear end kicked by a slightly less fascist prick.

Results here

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
LA Mayor is stupid close though, and Caruso might have outright bought this.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Kenning posted:

We should be able to vote on 25 people per election cycle who have a net worth above $20 million who can be freely hunted for sport.

That would be one way to get Pelosi and Feinstein out

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
https://www.politico.com/2022-election/results/california/ballot-measures/

All the ballot props have been called:



I take special glee in 26 and 27 eating colossal poo poo, last I checked ballotpedia something like a combined $300M was set on fire by the Yes campaigns for both combined. Kinda surprised 30 failed, wonder if Newsom really does have that much pull with voters or it was just plain ol' new tax aversion (even though it was only going to affect ~40K ultra rich filers). Overall much better than the wasteland that was the 2020 prop results.

Sorry to any menthol enjoyers, go buy in bulk while you still have the chance I guess.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
California really hates tobacco, weren't we the first to ban smoking in restaurants?

I just remember one day going out to restaurants as a kid and suddenly places stopped smelling like poo poo

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





I have never seen a prop lose as bad as 27, wow

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

I cannot help feeling bummed the dialysis prop got lobbied to death all over again.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i struggle to believe that 60% of californians even have an opinion on kinds of cigarettes let alone think menthols should be banned lmfao.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

that's Doctor Brain to you

CarlCX posted:

I cannot help feeling bummed the dialysis prop got lobbied to death all over again.

What value do you see in it?

Nameless Pete
May 8, 2007

Get a load of those...
I'm 7 for 7. People agree with my opinions!

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Muir posted:

What value do you see in it?

Regulating the lovely dialysis providers so that they have some sort of rules?

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007

Muir posted:

What value do you see in it?

I know a nurse who worked at one for a short while, and her stories are terrifying (lying on logs, understaffed, incompetent staff...). That was enough to convince me more oversight was needed.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

that's Doctor Brain to you
“More oversight is needed” is a long way off from “this particular ballot initiative is the right regulation.” My mother in law was a dialysis nurse and she thinks this proposal is crap.

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007

Muir posted:

“More oversight is needed” is a long way off from “this particular ballot initiative is the right regulation.” My mother in law was a dialysis nurse and she thinks this proposal is crap.

Why?

Highbrow Slick
Jul 1, 2007

it is a fool who stays alive - but such fools are we.
I think a big part of the push back on the dialysis prop is there is no real need for an actual doctor to be present when a high schooler can perform dialysis. Hell a dialysis patient can perform dialysis.

I didn’t really care about 26 or 27 but I’m surprised they got crushed. 31 passing is dumb.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Was 26 the sports betting but on reservations thing? I'm kind of shocked at the audacity of that even being on the ballot lol. The tribes didn't actually need the states permission in the first place to build casinos, and now that they already have them there's absolutely nothing stopping them lol. The whole thing is basically a gentleman's agreement to play nice with eachother.

Highbrow Slick
Jul 1, 2007

it is a fool who stays alive - but such fools are we.
It was that and I think allowing other games like roulette which they currently can’t do for some reason?

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007

I'd be a lot happier just giving tax money to tribes rather than having them build casinos. Casinos are loving depressing places.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
I'm glad they can't have dice craps because it's the only thing I ever enjoy wasting money on at a casino

Glass of Milk
Dec 22, 2004
to forgive is divine
The only surprise to me is Prop 30, but I never saw any lobbying on it either way.

I've already seen Republicans attacking California for not passing sports betting. Culture wars!

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

that's Doctor Brain to you

It requires a doctor or nurse practitioner to be present at all dialysis clinics, which is totally unnecessary and expensive, which would probably result in less access to care.

It's opposed by every major newspaper I've seen as well as many medical associations.

Why do you think it's a good idea? And why do you think it's best done as a ballot initiative instead of the normal legislative process?

Highbrow Slick posted:

I think a big part of the push back on the dialysis prop is there is no real need for an actual doctor to be present when a high schooler can perform dialysis. Hell a dialysis patient can perform dialysis.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I'm extremely surprised about Prop 30. Who is against that?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


CompeAnansi posted:

I wish I could find Narragansett here because I used to love that when I was on the east coast.
Aren't they the ones with the cool rebuses on the underside of the caps? Pickwick Ale used to be (40 years ago) the cheapest beer you could buy locally, and it had the rebuses as well. Glucose-intolerant goon, have you tried British-style hard cider? American-style has fruit juice added, whereas British-style is just the fermented stuff. Try Golden State Brut. If you can get it, every Humboldt County Cider Co. cider I've tried, including the fruit ones, is good.

Sydin posted:

I take special glee in 26 and 27 eating colossal poo poo, last I checked ballotpedia something like a combined $300M was set on fire by the Yes campaigns for both combined.
Saaaame. IIRC a Bay Area clear-channel radio station, one of the old ones with only three letters, just got bought and shut down so it could reopen as all sports betting. :homebrew:

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Highbrow Slick posted:

31 passing is dumb.

It failing would have been the tobacco industry paying to override democracy, which is objectively more dumb.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

I'm actually shocked the gambling ones got shot down so hard, wow. I don't really give 2 shits what games casinos offer because I don't normally go, but craps are cool.

And I voted no on dialysis for 2 reasons: A) there's no reason a doctor has to be present, and B) I'm loving sick of seeing dialysis props on the ballot every election.

e: I really hope Kevin loving Kiley doesn't win, good grief. He's 9k ahead with 44% counted, blech.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Looks like Caruso successfully bought a city mayor job.

I hope he cleans up the housing problem he helped create. :allears:

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




My belief is the gambling props died because of the relentless bad ads during baseball.

Prop 27: hi we are a poor Indian tribe, prop 27 will help us and the homeless. Please ignore my kids who look like they don't want to be in the ad.

Me: ok

Prop 27: hi we are a poor Indian tribe that doesn't get gambling bucks, prop 27 will fix that and help the homeless.

Me: wait what's this about gambling?

Prop 27: drat don't you wish you could bet on sports like your friends in other states? Gambling roxxxx!

Me: what happened to the reservation and homeless?

Prop 27: prop 26 is backed by evil big business tribal gaming interests! gently caress them, vote for 27 so we can have some gambling money too!

Prop 26: hi there, uh, do you want nebulous more gambling that we won't explain?

Me, as the Giants fail to make the playoffs: time to cancle Google TV, thanks for consuming literal days of my life showing me endless gambling prop ads, gently caress those guys, gently caress everyone involved.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Anonymous gambling on any sports event at any time anywhere is just going to cause a bunch of people to lose money and some douchebag tech person who really likes sports will make a lot of money and spend it all on sports memorabilia for their office.

Replacing bookies with legally authorized tech giants is a horrible idea.

jokes fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Nov 9, 2022

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Clarste posted:

No sheriff in history has been punished by the voters, as far as I know.

Joe Arpaio?

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Larry Parrish posted:

Was 26 the sports betting but on reservations thing? I'm kind of shocked at the audacity of that even being on the ballot lol. The tribes didn't actually need the states permission in the first place to build casinos, and now that they already have them there's absolutely nothing stopping them lol. The whole thing is basically a gentleman's agreement to play nice with eachother.

I think it was less about allowing it on reservations and more about it only being legal on reservations, as a way to drive tourism and revenue to their casinos.

Zachack posted:

My belief is the gambling props died because of the relentless bad ads

I honestly think it was this, way too much money was spent oversaturating every commercial block to find with ads for the two props to the point that people got pissed and voted "No" out of spite. That it was two competing props certainly didn't help either. Can't wait to see what the idiots come back with in two years for the next inevitable gambling prop.

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


Lolling if Cindy Chavez loses ANOTHER mayoral race with the entire democratic machine endorsing her. gently caress you for texting all day, every day, for the last month.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Clarste posted:

No sheriff in history has been punished by the voters, as far as I know.

We had a BLM protest stop traffic on the 101 and eventually get tear-gassed and yet the Sheriff and DA both were unopposed in the primary. Somebody from the local Dems texted me some spam back then and when I said "good job not finding literally anybody to run against them" went "we tried :("

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Clarste posted:

No sheriff in history has been punished by the voters, as far as I know.

Looks like Villanueva just lost in los angeles AND we passed a ballot prop that says we can fire sheriffs for cause.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Lolling if Cindy Chavez loses ANOTHER mayoral race with the entire democratic machine endorsing her. gently caress you for texting all day, every day, for the last month.

Mahan got shoveled ridiculous quantities of money by Liccardo's PAC and San Jose realtor associations and they used it to put up signage everywhere and bombard people with mailers. If Cindy loses it's because she coasted on endorsements instead of spending on upping her visibility to compete with Mahan, who seriously it cannot be stated enough had signage everywhere.

That said Mahan's lead is extremely small right now and we're apparently taking loving forever to count: 91% of precincts are reporting but only half the actual ballots have been counted.

Mitsuo
Jul 4, 2007
What does this box do?

Sydin posted:

Mahan got shoveled ridiculous quantities of money by Liccardo's PAC and San Jose realtor associations and they used it to put up signage everywhere and bombard people with mailers. If Cindy loses it's because she coasted on endorsements instead of spending on upping her visibility to compete with Mahan, who seriously it cannot be stated enough had signage everywhere.

That said Mahan's lead is extremely small right now and we're apparently taking loving forever to count: 91% of precincts are reporting but only half the actual ballots have been counted.

It looks like Doan is winning over Esparza in D7, so it looks like control may swing back to the business faction 6-5. Then again, literally every single council member on both sides endorsed Chavez so who knows how well they’ll work together…

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DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007

Muir posted:

It requires a doctor or nurse practitioner to be present at all dialysis clinics, which is totally unnecessary and expensive, which would probably result in less access to care.

It's opposed by every major newspaper I've seen as well as many medical associations.

Why do you think it's a good idea? And why do you think it's best done as a ballot initiative instead of the normal legislative process?

You're saying it's unnecessary, but not why it's unnecessary.

I asked you why your mom the dialysis nurse thought it was a bad idea and you told me what some newspapers think.

Expense and "It would probably result in less access" is an argument against every single form of oversight or regulation. It carries absolutely zero weight without actual numbers behind it.

Here's why I thought it sounded like it was necessary. It's an anecdote, but I trust the nurse. Definitely more than I trust a "major newspaper".

DeadlyMuffin posted:

I know a nurse who worked at one for a short while, and her stories are terrifying (lying on logs, understaffed, incompetent staff...). That was enough to convince me more oversight was needed.

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